# Mafia Reunion - Day Two

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 17, 2017, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425 "2017-01-17T22:20:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/321 "2017-01-19T22:36:53Z")

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The game is daunting, and i also think it has lost a bit of the shine due to Malware redirects.

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**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/322 "2017-01-19T22:38:23Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> I’ll be overly blunt.
> 
> **Those of us without switches couldn’t care less.**
> 
> No I mean seriously. You don’t want our feedback, and won’t heed it anyway.

Agreed.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/323 "2017-01-19T22:39:24Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> The game is daunting, and i also think it has lost a bit of the shine due to Malware redirects.

Ghostery browser on Android. No more redirects.

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**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/324 "2017-01-19T22:46:40Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> The game is daunting, and i also think it has lost a bit of the shine due to Malware redirects.

I recommend uBlock origin.

As an unfortunate side effect of the lower than expected participation though, I think we’re really going to struggle to achieve a lynch situation where the runner up has 17 votes.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/325 "2017-01-19T22:48:54Z")

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> [@Plumpudding](#):
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> ☹

OOG.

Awww. I’m glad the rehearsal and exam things went well. I feel you need a hug now. {{{hugs}}}

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**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/326 "2017-01-19T22:54:07Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> OOG.
> 
> Awww. I’m glad the rehearsal and exam things went well. I feel you need a hug now. {{{hugs}}}

Thank you!

Also, I realise I haven’t commented on lightfoots OOG situation: She deserves hugs too. I hope things go well… I don’t pray, but if I did I would have.

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**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/327 "2017-01-19T22:55:07Z")

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> [@Scathach](#):
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> I recommend uBlock origin.
> 
> As an unfortunate side effect of the lower than expected participation though, I think we’re really going to struggle to achieve a lynch situation where the runner up has 17 votes.

Yes, maybe we need a party whip.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/328 "2017-01-19T22:55:23Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> Ghostery browser on Android. No more redirects.

Just installed it, thanks. i had to look up my log in info and Ill try to remember to use it. I just hate having to use a separate browser for this one site. I keep forgetting and then swearing at the Dope when I do.

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**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/329 "2017-01-19T23:00:57Z")

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> [@Plumpudding](#):
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> Yes, maybe we need a party whip.

[oog] Holy shit you have really made me want to make a game based around that [/oog]

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/330 "2017-01-19T23:04:07Z")

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> [@brewha](#):
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> Looks like we’re not going to get a consensus about whether or not Batman should target me. If I look at switches through the eyes of an electrician, I gotta wonder if the switches are in series or in parallel.
> 
> The they are in series - which I assumed - then either of the switches would break the connection and shut off Batman’s powers.
> 
> But, if they are parallel, both switches would have to be off to break the connection. If only one switch is off, the power is still active.
> 
> I’m flipping my switch tonight.
> 
> I guess whether I not I get an attempted vig is up to Batman at this point. If he (and I’m going to use the pronoun “he” for everyone for whom I know not the gender - don’t read anything into it) decides to target someone else, he’ll at least know if my switch shut off his power.
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> We won’t know if if the other switch holder flipped theirs or whether or not both switches were needed to shut it off.
> 
> And, the town isn’t going to know for sure what happened if I survive the night. Did Batman fail to kill me? Did he target someone else and failed? Did his kill go through the the mafia kill(s) were somehow thwarted?
> 
> I guess all we really know is that some stuff is going to go down tonight and we’ll have to sort it out when the dust clears.

I think assuming they are in series is the wisest plan, since that’s how they were in last game that featured them.

As for the whole batman plan, I find it overly complex and give it 0% chance of working out the way you want it to. Like if you get killed, how will we know that the factional kill didn’t get you vs. batman? Anyway, regardless of what happens, I do think we will get at least _some_ information out of it. So if you wanna do try it, I’m not going to talk you out of it.

I agree with Biotop in that the very fact you came forward with the switch claim is probably a good indicator that you are town.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/331 "2017-01-19T23:10:39Z")

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\*\*Sunny, \*\* I assume you are voting for **Plumpudding** based on some reasoning you have previously outlined; could you recap or link to your reasoning? Offhand the only thing I remember him getting flak for was having a bad fluff/content ratio, which certainly is true. Is there more?

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/332 "2017-01-19T23:16:22Z")

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> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> Pleonast, I honestly don’t have any idea what your case against me is, and it doesn’t seem as though anyone else does either.
> 
> My case against you is as follows: in this Night Zero post:
> 
> it appears to me that you could be scum trying to persuade your teammates to adopt this strategy of not reading the scum boards and finding out who their teammates are, effectively playing as SKs. Failing that, to breadcrumb to them that you are the “missing” member of their team. I said that I couldn’t think of any reason for you to make that post if you were Town.
> 
> Then, you voted for me. I initially thought that you thought I had PIS because I assumed that _once the scum went on the scum board, they would find out who each other were._ I thought this was about the lamest case imaginable, but the more you try to explain it, the more confusing it gets.
> 
> Here’s your most recent attempt (snipped from omnibus post). I’ve bolded what appears to me to be the basic point you’re making.
> 
> I’m posting all this not to get **Pleonast’s** vote off me but to bring everyone’s attention once again to his scumminess. I don’t want to be one of those two guys with one-off votes on each other, but I will make this last attempt to get his wagon rolling before I move on.

Thing Fish, I think I’m in agreement with you on your case against Pleo. I’d join your vote except for…

> [@DiggitCamara](#):
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> Counter: this is very weak analysis, actually. The fact that scum doesn’t have perfect information doesn’t preclude a weak defense of everyone who ISN’T on their team. It would be interesting if, while doing so, they would by chance vote for someone on the opposing team.
> 
> But still, this defense pings me. Not enough to change my
> 
> **vote for snfaulkner[COLOR]**

D1, 5 total posts. Parks a vote on me at post 264 because I mentioned that The Colby Slip didn’t convince me to vote for him, which apparently means I was defending him and have PIS. Lame.

Nothing N1

Comes back in D2 with the above, doubling down with his lame reasoning from D1. And doesn’t even mention any of the other issues at hand. This, my friends, is our lurking scum. And so, with that (and a flaming dumpster full of OMGUS, I admit),  
**[COLOR=“Blue”]  
Vote DiggitCamara**

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/333 "2017-01-19T23:37:18Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Just installed it, thanks. i had to look up my log in info and Ill try to remember to use it. I just hate having to use a separate browser for this one site. I keep forgetting and then swearing at the Dope when I do.

OOG but holy cow, thank you. I was using everything I could find and still the sdmb was going totally batty on my phone. This is way better.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/334 "2017-01-19T23:44:35Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> OOG but holy cow, thank you. I was using everything I could find and still the sdmb was going totally batty on my phone. This is way better.

Thank Johnny Bravo! I was simply following his advice 🙂

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/335 "2017-01-19T23:48:23Z")

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\*\*Everyone’s switches, if you have a switch, works the same way. Everything we have told anyone about switches has been accurate. We checked. There are no contradictions. \*\*.

Sorry if you all find this confusing but this is the last I want to talk about this.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/336 "2017-01-19T23:49:55Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Thank Johnny Bravo! I was simply following his advice 🙂

Thanks to you both. I didn’t even know how to ask the question. I was just getting progressively more pissed.

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**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/337 "2017-01-19T23:55:26Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> Thanks to you both. I didn’t even know how to ask the question. I was just getting progressively more pissed.

Have you tried tapatalk? It’s terrible for posting but amazing for reading because it just gives you the text without any graphics.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/338 "2017-01-20T00:07:56Z")

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> [@Scathach](#):
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> Have you tried tapatalk? It’s terrible for posting but amazing for reading because it just gives you the text without any graphics.

I can’t use it for mafia. Too hard to code.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/339 "2017-01-20T00:14:51Z")

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Ack! I just accidentally posted a case on MHaye in the Day One thread, and I can’t quote it here with all the embedded quotes, so[here’s a link.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19933618&postcount=1448) Sorry about that.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/340 "2017-01-20T00:16:37Z")

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> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> Ack! I just accidentally posted a case on MHaye in the Day One thread, and I can’t quote it here with all the embedded quotes, so[here’s a link.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19933618&postcount=1448) Sorry about that.

Well done, sir. 😛

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