# Mafia Reunion - Day Two **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [January 17, 2017, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425 "2017-01-17T22:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/21 "2017-01-17T23:25:34Z")
Ah CRAP! I wore out my poor f5 key for this? :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/22 "2017-01-17T23:28:57Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > _ **Unofficial** _ final Day One votecount (Thing Fish’s count, Edited and colorized by SNF and UPDATED for N1 blues) > > Lakai (18 votes) - Inner Stickler (257), RedSkeezix(319), Plumpudding(647), Light Foot (883), Koldanar (900), Scathach (1031), AngeloftheNorth (1078), Hockey Monkey (1102), Drain Bead (889), Raventhief (1109), Meeko (1082), buffytabby (1094), jsgoddess (1129), Hoopy Frood (1130), MHaye (1176), nesta (1187), ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies (1206), Nanook of the North Shore (1208) > > ToeJam (15 votes) - Sunny Daze (113), Hooker Chemical (184), sinjin (200), Sachertorte (534), Captain Klutz(796), Normal Phase (1011), Prof. Pepperwinkle (1057), BillMC (1152), septimus (1154), Biotop (1178), Guiri (1182), EnderW24 (1195), Chronos (1197), snfaulkner (1205), Lakai (1209) > > colby11 (6 votes) - Texcat (91), ToeJam (132), Hawkeye(350), brewha (683), Pleonast (841), Suburban Plankton (1026) > > Angelofthenorth (3 votes) - Zeriel(413), TotalLost(492), Boozahol Squid PI (546), > > PLAYERS WITH 1 VOTE: > Pleonast (1 vote) - Thing Fish (794) > snfaulkner (1 vote) - diggitcamera (264) > Normal Phase (1 vote) - Johnny Bravo (36), > brewha (1 vote) - Colby11 (946) > > NOT VOTING 8 players: Daphne Black, crys75, Hal Briston, Idle Thoughts, Khameleon, precambrianmollusc, Sario, Winston Smith Edited to, again, remove the double Scathach vote, and more importantly to add the eminently FOSable crew at the bottom (substituted players in purple). ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/23 "2017-01-17T23:30:17Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Edited to, again, remove the double Scathach vote, and more importantly to add the eminently FOSable crew at the bottom (substituted players in purple). Ah crap! I forgot about that. good catch…again. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/24 "2017-01-17T23:42:29Z")
The average number of posts per player yesterDay was roughly 20. Lakai, at 18 posts, wasn’t much under that. Colby11 was at 9, and we’re guessing he was Vig’d. The three Townies who were, therefore, probably killed by Scum were Normal Phase (2nd highest poster, 81); Suburban Plankton (6th highest poster, 62) and septimus (15th highest poster, 38). septimus had claimed, which most likely drew attention to him, and the other two were very vocal. My thought is: if you don’t want to Lynch the Lurker, at least don’t Lynch the Loud. Here’s Who Posted at the End of D1. Who Posted? Total Posts: 1,447 User Name Posts LightFoot 91 Normal Phase 84 Plumpudding 81 AngeloftheNorth 70 Meeko 64 Suburban Plankton 62 Total Lost 59 snfaulkner 59 NAF1138 56 Prof. Pepperwinkle 56 Thing Fish 53 jsgoddess 44 raventhief 42 GuiriEnEspaña 41 Chronos 40 septimus 38 Drain Bead 37 Biotop 29 Johnny Bravo 25 Boozahol Squid, P.I. 24 bufftabby 24 HookerChemical 23 Hoopy Frood 22 TexCat 22 Sunny Daze 22 sachertorte 21 Mahaloth 20 Lakai 18 ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 17 Captain Klutz 17 Hockey Monkey 17 Nanook of the North Shore 16 Scathach 16 sinjin 14 Zeriel 13 Crys75 12 brewha 11 Pleonast 10 Colby11 9 Enderw24 8 BillMC 6 nesta 6 MHaye 5 ToeJam 5 DiggitCamara 5 Hawkeyeop 5 Sario 5 storyteller0910 4 Inner Stickler 3 Khameleon 3 Hal Briston 3 Koldanar 3 Idle Thoughts 3 paulwhoisaghost 2 Precambrianmollusc 1 Red Skeezix 1 Show Thread & Close Window ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/25 "2017-01-17T23:47:02Z")
ETA: …don’t Lynch the Loud. Yet. ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/26 "2017-01-17T23:48:50Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > That’s, um, disgusting. Yes. Disgusting is the word I want. Also, apparently Colby should change his name and try playing as someone else entirely, because it sucks to be him. > > Not a great start to the day at all. On the contrary, Colby should always play as Colby so that we all realise that he ALWAYS gets accused of scum slips and is usually town. I presume he was a friendly fire though in this game. While it sucks he got NK’d at least we don’t have to rehash it all again on D2. Now, I really need to reread at least partially D1 but god the thread length is daunting. ---
**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/27 "2017-01-18T00:03:10Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Edited to, again, remove the double Scathach vote, and more importantly to add the eminently FOSable crew at the bottom (substituted players in purple). Yeah I said in the N1 portion of the thread real life got in the way. I had surgery on my shoulder a couple weeks ago and I was having some issues. I thought I had more time in fact my drug addled brain thought I had five more hours to vote. I apologize it won’t happen again I promise. My husband has properly chastised me for trying to do too much again and the extreme pain is also a huge deterrent. Sent from my XT1526 using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/28 "2017-01-18T00:05:38Z")
So. The bodycount looks daunting; we’ve lost just under 10% of the players in one Day / Night cycle. Still, it gives us five players we can look at and say “We know and can trust where they are coming from.” It doesn’t mean they were automatically right, just that what they said didn’t have any intention of misleading. It will be interesting to try and evaluate their interactions with other players in the light of their alignment. The prospect is indeed daunting. I’ll try and go through one or two of them. On the subject of activity, I’ll be missing on Thursday (19/1) as I have to take a day-trip for the funeral of an aunt. (She was 91). So I’ll not turn up at all that day. I’ll read along and spend some time when not diverted by RL reading Normal Phase’s posts from Yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/29 "2017-01-18T00:15:16Z")
Eh, it’s not _that_ daunting. In a more normal-sized game with 20 players, we’d expect to lost 2 players in the first cycle, and that’s 10%, too. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/30 "2017-01-18T00:37:58Z")
2/3 of the lynch front runners were Town. Does that suggest anything about ToeJam. or is it a red herring? If all 3 are/were Town then the vote record won’t tell us much about Scum votes. They could be anywhere Who was certain that the run on ToeJam was not Scum motivated? we know now that Scum didn’t care which of Lakai/Colby were lynched so that assumption was quite correct. I am wondering if there is more in this thought. I don’t have answers yet. just questions. thinking out loud ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/31 "2017-01-18T00:38:14Z")
ToeJam, in D1, made the remark that he “posts a lot” yet he only had 5 posts all Day. He drew a lot of heat for posts from N0, and ended up 2nd in line, votes-wise. I know I ended up on the Lakai bandwagon, much to my shame, but I have to wonder if any of the votes on Lakai were to draw heat of the lynch away from ToeJam. Ill be going back through the dreadful D1/N1 thousands of posts to figure out a timeline. But in the meantime, and with full acknowledgement that I have many little-d days to change my mind… \*\*Vote ToeJam. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/32 "2017-01-18T00:50:59Z")
Crappy start. Okay, to make up for not voting yesterday, I’m putting down a vote early today. Right now, in fact. **Vote ToeJam**. It’s possible that all of the forerunners for lynch the Day before were Town, but I feel it’s also very likely that at least one was scum…that would mean **ToeJam** is it. ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/33 "2017-01-18T00:58:41Z")
Well, this is awkward. Hello town! Nothing like being strung up from a tree to end your first day in town. No need to apologize or anything. I’ll be fine. I promise. Both Colby and Lakai (Part I) were town, but a lot of people thought their behavior was pretty scummy. Can we gain anything from looking at the people voting for them? Were the votes driven by scum looking to lynch a town person, or did scum just sit by while the town gathered a bandwagon around their own people? I mean I was essentially lynched for voting for Colby and then for not doing such a good job defending that vote. But I was town voting for Colby. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/34 "2017-01-18T01:13:48Z")
Well, I was always a ToeJam fangirl, and he never put much effort into changing that opinion. The opposite, if anything. To start the Day, I’ll have my usual, please: **Vote ToeJam** ---
**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/35 "2017-01-18T01:16:32Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > **Colby** was an obvious choice for the Vig and a lousy choice for the Wolves, so absent any evidence to the contrary, I assume it was him vigged and **Suburban** wolfed. I don’t think he gave any indications of his role, which would mean that the wolves choosing him was just dumb luck. And it hurts us significantly to be down two investigators so early: One, we could replace with the Understudy, but now one’s gone completely. I agree with the assessment that **colby** was likely vigged. I think it’s equally possible that **suburban** was hit by wolves OR a Serial Killer. One of either of the latter may have had a kill blocked. I know we don’t KNOW there’s an SK in the game, but knowing that there’s an assortment of 3rd parties at play makes me think there’s at least one 3rd party killing power. Either way, it makes sense that it was a pro-Town player that hit Colby and an anti-Town player that hit Burby. ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/36 "2017-01-18T01:17:05Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Pfui. We’re down five Town, and three Power Roles. Pfui. Actually, we’re down six Town. The first one was modkilled before Day 1 started. _Originally posted by snfaulkner, then updated by ThingFish, but I can’t quote ThingFish’s update, and I’m not going to quote snfaulkner’s version so that if I screwed anything up someone can at least copy paste in the formatting by quoting me and fix whatever I missed; but anyway that extra scathach vote is–as I mentioned before–my unvote of scathach and vote for Lakai that the mods screwed up. So this should be the actual final count, unless I missed something else:_ _ **Unofficial** _ final Day One votecount (Thing Fish’s count, Edited and colorized by SNF and UPDATED for N1 blues, further updated by Hoopy Frood so maybe his actual vote will show up where it should) Lakai (18 votes) - Inner Stickler (257), RedSkeezix(319), Plumpudding(647), Light Foot (883), Koldanar (900), Hoopy Frood(1031), AngeloftheNorth (1078), Hockey Monkey (1102), Drain Bead (889), Raventhief (1109), Meeko (1082), buffytabby (1094), jsgoddess (1129), MHaye (1176), nesta (1187), ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies (1206), Nanook of the North Shore (1208) ToeJam (15 votes) - Sunny Daze (113), Hooker Chemical (184), sinjin (200), Sachertorte (534), Captain Klutz(796), Normal Phase (1011), Prof. Pepperwinkle (1057), BillMC (1152), septimus (1154), Biotop (1178), Guiri (1182), EnderW24 (1195), Chronos (1197), snfaulkner (1205), Lakai (1209) colby11 (6 votes) - Texcat (91), ToeJam (132), Hawkeye(350), brewha (683), Pleonast (841), Suburban Plankton (1026) Angelofthenorth (3 votes) - Zeriel(413), TotalLost(492), Boozahol Squid PI (546), PLAYERS WITH 1 VOTE: Pleonast (1 vote) - Thing Fish (794) snfaulkner (1 vote) - diggitcamera (264) Normal Phase (1 vote) - Johnny Bravo (36), Texcat (1 vote) - Scathach(758) brewha (1 vote) - Colby11 (946) [/QUOTE] NOT VOTING 8 players: Daphne Black, crys75, Hal Briston, Idle Thoughts, Khameleon, precambrianmollusc, Sario, Winston Smith ---
**Author:** ![Colby11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e56c9b/32.png) [@Colby11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colby11)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/37 "2017-01-18T01:23:55Z")
\*\*“I’m a cowboy On a steel horse I ride I’m wanted Dead…” _dies_\*\* ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/38 "2017-01-18T01:29:46Z")
> [@Colby11](#): > > \*\*“I’m a cowboy > On a steel horse I ride > I’m wanted > Dead…” > > _dies_\*\* 😃 This made me happy. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/39 "2017-01-18T01:43:10Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > If that’s **Paul** and \*\*Lakai \*\*(Mark II), NAF already introduced 'em last Night. **It is. I skim my own games. Lynch me.** ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/40 "2017-01-18T01:44:29Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > **It is. I skim my own games. Lynch me.** Don’t tempt me. It worked in the Idle the ScumMod game. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425.md?page=3)