# Mafia Reunion - Day Two

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 17, 2017, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425 "2017-01-17T22:20:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Captain\_Klutz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captain_klutz/32/4993_2.png) [@Captain\_Klutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Klutz)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/61 "2017-01-18T05:49:35Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
>
> Reiterating my one-off vote from yesterDay.
> 
> \*\* vote Captain Klutz\*\*
> 
> I really think his vote timing on septimus was such that he realized he was voting for a Town power role when he did it, because it came an hour and a half after septimus mentioned that he wouldn’t be around at EoD and would need to claim early if still a lynch leader. Seems like something Scum would try to take advantage of.

This ws my reply to your original vote on Day 1:

> [@Mafia Reunion - Day One](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/953):
>
> I did see the soft claim before voting, but are you saying that a soft claim is enough to unvote (or not vote)? A soft claim can’t be tested or countered. If all scum have to do to escape the noose is suggest that they are a town power, then we are not going to get very far.

You did not respond to this. I’ll ask you again: does a soft claim mean that you would never vote for that person?

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**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/62 "2017-01-18T06:36:28Z")

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> [@Captain\_Klutz](#):
>
> This ws my reply to your original vote on Day 1:
> 
> You did not respond to this. I’ll ask you again: does a soft claim mean that you would never vote for that person?

I’m curious about this answer also.

Sent from my XT1526 using Tapatalk

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/63 "2017-01-18T07:33:48Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
>
> How is claiming on Day One being inconsistent again? :dubious: I just didn’t have it first freaking post because I was mostly busy the group of days Day one went on.
> 
> Weak vote. Extremely weak.

I know you always claim on Day 1, **Idle Thoughts**.

Is it most common that you claim in the first post?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/64 "2017-01-18T12:20:28Z")

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**Biotop** , yes, it’s from memory. I never noticed any such thing myself, nor did anyone else point out such a thing. There also wasn’t any chance for him to exhibit any of the standard Detective tells, because he wouldn’t have had results on Day 1 (he would have in Night 1, but that won’t usually show up, because of the lack of voting).

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/65 "2017-01-18T12:32:34Z")

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> [@Captain\_Klutz](#):
>
> This ws my reply to your original vote on Day 1:
> 
> You did not respond to this. I’ll ask you again: does a soft claim mean that you would never vote for that person?

I don’t think his was entirely intentional–a “Town slip,” so to speak, and as such no, I would not be voting for him after it was made.

It always depends on the nature of the claim. Some are more believable than others.  
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**Author:** ![Khameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dec6dc/32.png) [@Khameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khameleon)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/66 "2017-01-18T12:36:10Z")

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Another yucky start.

Chronos, you questioned my ideas about the D1 kills in the N1 thread. I would have to go back to remember exactly what I said, but I was, and still am, going back and forth to the role descriptions to try and remember who does what during which phase. If what I said didn’t make sense it may very well have been because I got it mixed up.

Speaking of who/what/when, the Bloodhound can track someone during the day, so it’s possible they tracked Burby (who’s role investigates during the day as well) resulting in his subsequent death during the night. I am making the assumption here that the results for Day actions are received at the start of Night. I would like to think Suburban Plankton did try to investigate on D1 so will go back to see what he posted in N1 before his untimely demise.

As I said in N1, I think ToeJam is worth taking a look at. Not necessarily because the other top vote receivers were Town, but his vote was for a Townie (Colby) and all three players that were killed during D1 voted for him. Perhaps he’s Scum and the Scum team decided one of them had something legitimate on him? It’s a weak speculation, but for now I will:

FOS ToeJam

The questions about Idle seem to mostly be based on meta information. So to continue with that trend I’m recalling a game where (I think - was a while ago) he didn’t have much interest in playing because he was Town (please correct me if I have this wrong). Could his lack of posts indicate the same here?

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**Author:** ![Khameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dec6dc/32.png) [@Khameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khameleon)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/67 "2017-01-18T12:46:36Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
>
> Reiterating my one-off vote from yesterDay.
> 
> **vote Captain Klutz**
> 
> I really think his vote timing on septimus was such that he realized he was voting for a Town power role when he did it, because it came an hour and a half after septimus mentioned that he wouldn’t be around at EoD and would need to claim early if still a lynch leader. Seems like something Scum would try to take advantage of.

But soft claiming is most definitely something a Scum with a lynching bandwagon on them might try, so until Septimus fully claimed the soft claim tells us little and can, in fact, appear suspicious. I don’t really think this warrants a vote for the Captain.

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**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/68 "2017-01-18T13:05:00Z")

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Hi guys! Sorry to see you go Sbuplkty and Colby.

> [@Chronos](#):
>
> [snip]As to why he was chosen, I think (unless I missed a change somewhere) he ended the day with his vote on **Colby** , so that definitely wasn’t it. He wasn’t the most prolific poster left, but he was pretty high, with **Meeko** , **Angel** , and **Plumpudding** ahead of him. I can understand why the Scum might not have targeted **Meeko** or **Angel** , both of whom they probably considered lynchable, but I’m not sure off the top of my head about **Plumpudding**. It’s possible that they skipped over him because he was one of their own, or it’s possible that they just considered **Suburban** a greater threat as a player.  
> [snip]

You forgot Lightfoot. I think both Suburban Plankton and Lightfoot are considered much greater threats than me. An anemic FOS on Chronos for conveniently forgetting to mention Lightfoot, for pretending as if there’s even a question of Suburban Plankton’s reputation surpassing mine, and for a smidge of a smudge of me. Also a side-eye to Lighfoot, because I never trust her and she is scarily good.

> [@Chronos](#):
>
> On the topic of **Pleonast** ’s casting of multiple votes, even though only one would count, I think that his fault (and that of all of the rest of us) is in doing too few, not too many. I read that as “I find all of these people sufficiently suspect that I would cast a vote for them if I could, and the only reason I’m not voting for the others is that I’m only allowed to do one”. But the thing is, there are at least 14 people in this game that we _should_ suspect, and getting out information about that helps Town in the long run. I think that we should all be striving, not just to vote for one person, but to also make clear somehow a significant number of other people we consider worthy of votes. We don’t necessarily need to format them as votes, like **Pleonast** did, but there should be a lot more FOSes flying around than there are.

I agree with this, although I find Pleos multivoting to be a bit confusing.

FOS on crys75, Hal Briston, Idle Thoughts, Khameleon, precambrianmollusc and Sario.

And what happened to gnarlycharlie and manila? They are in the players list. FOS on both of them too, if they are still in the game…

ToeJam dissappearing after getting heat is suspicious. FOS on ToeJam.

Anyway:

**vote TexCat**

Just to start off. She first voted Normal Phase because “editing sets bad precedent”, a policy vote, then jumped on Colby11 for his slip, which turned out not to be a slip. That was more or less the end of her contributions Day 1 IMO, but for transparency’s sake, here is all her posts Day 1, with commentary:

Day 1 post [29](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19904293&postcount=29) - Votes Normal Phase.  
Day 1 post [31](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19904307&postcount=31) - Explains vote.  
Day 1 post [91](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19904878&postcount=91) - Votes Colby.  
Day 1 post [187](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19906347&postcount=187) - Urges Patsy to claim.  
Day 1 post [315](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19908882&postcount=315) - Digs up a bunch of posts voicing “suspicions” of Colby, presumably for Drain Bead.  
Day 1 post [359](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19909668&postcount=359) - Biotop is creepy.  
Day 1 post [425](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19911002&postcount=452) - Calls vote for Angel easy, not necessarily bad.  
Day 1 post [510](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19912068&postcount=510) – Fluff.  
Day 1 post [586](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19913167&postcount=586) – Angel/rules.  
Day 1 post [624](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19913601&postcount=624) - “@Guiri”  
Day 1 post [625](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19913609&postcount=625) – Confusion.  
Day 1 post [713](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19915719&postcount=713) - Confused about Day/Night stuff.  
Day 1 post [759](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19916386&postcount=759) – Worried about Colbys silence.  
Day 1 post [760](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19916393&postcount=760) – Defends her Colby vote. She compares her vote against the Angel vote, which is now a vote for being anti-town, and not good, in her opinion.  
Day 1 post [765](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19916487&postcount=765) – Calls out Scathach for hypocrisy.  
Day 1 post [788](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19916702&postcount=788) – Lakai vote is weak? Joke or not, I can’t tell.  
Day 1 post [865](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19917826&postcount=865) – Fluff  
Day 1 post [874](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19917901&postcount=874) – Urges Patsy to claim.  
Day 1 post [947](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19919279&postcount=947) – More Colby.  
Day 1 post [1269](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19923530&postcount=1269) – Apparently she found Lakai scummy after all. But Colby is more scummy.  
Day 1 post [1276](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19923587&postcount=1276) – Urging for a watcher claim or crumb.  
Day 1 post [1315](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19924202&postcount=1315) - OOG fluff.

No mention of ToeJam, a few contradicting mentions of Lakai and Angel, barely a mention of septimus and parked all Day on Colby.

Format shamelessly stolen from Guiri (I think?).

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**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/69 "2017-01-18T13:06:00Z")

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Also forgot to add:

I think the threshold for two lynches will be hard to reach…

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**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/70 "2017-01-18T13:11:24Z")

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Ugghhh. Also, my participation might drop a little. I have a concert to prepare for for the 26th, and classes start up next week.

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**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/71 "2017-01-18T13:25:11Z")

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> [@Hockey\_Monkey](#):
>
> I believe he is saying you are normally more prolific and it’s inconsistent for you to only have three Day One posts with little content.
> 
> Weak? Somewhat, but not really all \*that \*weak.
> 
> Why you so jumpy?

I’m a she. And I am saying he claimed late (it’s usually within one of the first few posts), contributed nothing but that claim, didn’t vote yesterday, and then came in with a “policy” vote on the person who is most likely to get a bandwagon today.

Idle hates playing scum, and all of this is circumstantial evidence of being scum to me.

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**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/72 "2017-01-18T13:28:52Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
>
> I’m honestly feeling the Idle Thoughts thing that’s starting to happen here, but I’m not feeling it enough for a vote. I think he’s been VERY atypically inactive and quiet, and that worries me because I don’t think he does that whether he’s scum OR town.
> 
> If he ends up being some kind of weird-rules 3rd Party, I’m going to have SO many I-told-you-so’s.
> 
> _ahem_
> 
> I’m going to carry over my vote from Day One. Chewing through what I think the votes and vote timings mean is going to take a while.
> 
> **vote AngeloftheNorth**

This is an extremely scummy post. Not because you’re voting me, because you’re indicating suspicion of Idle, saying it’s not enough to vote him (this part is fine), “carrying over” a vote from yesterday without any reasoning of why (this part may just be lazy, you may still have the same reasons), and then excusing yourself from the consequences if Idle is non-town.

FOS Zeriel.

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**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/73 "2017-01-18T13:32:10Z")

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> [@Plumpudding](#):
>
> Hi guys! Sorry to see you go Sbuplkty and Colby.  
> You forgot Lightfoot. I think both Suburban Plankton and Lightfoot are considered much greater threats than me. An anemic FOS on Chronos for conveniently forgetting to mention Lightfoot, for pretending as if there’s even a question of Suburban Plankton’s reputation surpassing mine, and for a smidge of a smudge of me. Also a side-eye to Lighfoot, because I never trust her and she is scarily good.  
> I agree with this, although I find Pleos multivoting to be a bit confusing.
> 
> FOS on crys75, Hal Briston, Idle Thoughts, Khameleon, precambrianmollusc and Sario.
> 
> And what happened to gnarlycharlie and manila? They are in the players list. FOS on both of them too, if they are still in the game…
> 
> ToeJam dissappearing after getting heat is suspicious. FOS on ToeJam.
> 
> Anyway:
> 
> **vote TexCat**
> 
> Just to start off. She first voted Normal Phase because “editing sets bad precedent”, a policy vote, then jumped on Colby11 for his slip, which turned out not to be a slip. That was more or less the end of her contributions Day 1 IMO, but for transparency’s sake, here is all her posts Day 1, with commentary:
> 
> Day 1 post [29](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19904293&postcount=29) - Votes Normal Phase.  
> Day 1 post [31](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19904307&postcount=31) - Explains vote.  
> Day 1 post [91](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19904878&postcount=91) - Votes Colby.  
> Day 1 post [187](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19906347&postcount=187) - Urges Patsy to claim.  
> Day 1 post [315](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19908882&postcount=315) - Digs up a bunch of posts voicing “suspicions” of Colby, presumably for Drain Bead.  
> Day 1 post [359](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19909668&postcount=359) - Biotop is creepy.  
> Day 1 post [425](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19911002&postcount=452) - Calls vote for Angel easy, not necessarily bad.  
> Day 1 post [510](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19912068&postcount=510) – Fluff.  
> Day 1 post [586](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19913167&postcount=586) – Angel/rules.  
> Day 1 post [624](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19913601&postcount=624) - “@Guiri”  
> Day 1 post [625](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19913609&postcount=625) – Confusion.  
> Day 1 post [713](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19915719&postcount=713) - Confused about Day/Night stuff.  
> Day 1 post [759](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19916386&postcount=759) – Worried about Colbys silence.  
> Day 1 post [760](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19916393&postcount=760) – Defends her Colby vote. She compares her vote against the Angel vote, which is now a vote for being anti-town, and not good, in her opinion.  
> Day 1 post [765](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19916487&postcount=765) – Calls out Scathach for hypocrisy.  
> Day 1 post [788](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19916702&postcount=788) – Lakai vote is weak? Joke or not, I can’t tell.  
> Day 1 post [865](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19917826&postcount=865) – Fluff  
> Day 1 post [874](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19917901&postcount=874) – Urges Patsy to claim.  
> Day 1 post [947](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19919279&postcount=947) – More Colby.  
> Day 1 post [1269](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19923530&postcount=1269) – Apparently she found Lakai scummy after all. But Colby is more scummy.  
> Day 1 post [1276](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19923587&postcount=1276) – Urging for a watcher claim or crumb.  
> Day 1 post [1315](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19924202&postcount=1315) - OOG fluff.
> 
> No mention of ToeJam, a few contradicting mentions of Lakai and Angel, barely a mention of septimus and parked all Day on Colby.
> 
> Format shamelessly stolen from Guiri (I think?).

LightFoot is a great player, but for some reason I’m sensitive to her scum tells. I can’t articulate them well, but I feel them. FWIW I have her in the almost definitely town column right now.

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**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/74 "2017-01-18T13:34:48Z")

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> [@Plumpudding](#):
>
> Hi guys! Sorry to see you go Sbuplkty and Colby.  
> You forgot Lightfoot. I think both Suburban Plankton and Lightfoot are considered much greater threats than me. An anemic FOS on Chronos for conveniently forgetting to mention Lightfoot, for pretending as if there’s even a question of Suburban Plankton’s reputation surpassing mine, and for a smidge of a smudge of me. Also a side-eye to Lighfoot, because I never trust her and she is scarily good.  
> I agree with this, although I find Pleos multivoting to be a bit confusing.
> 
> FOS on crys75, Hal Briston, Idle Thoughts, Khameleon, precambrianmollusc and Sario.
> 
> And what happened to gnarlycharlie and manila? They are in the players list. FOS on both of them too, if they are still in the game…
> 
> ToeJam dissappearing after getting heat is suspicious. FOS on ToeJam.
> 
> Anyway:
> 
> **vote TexCat**
> 
> Just to start off. She first voted Normal Phase because “editing sets bad precedent”, a policy vote, then jumped on Colby11 for his slip, which turned out not to be a slip. That was more or less the end of her contributions Day 1 IMO, but for transparency’s sake, here is all her posts Day 1, with commentary:
> 
> Day 1 post [29](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19904293&postcount=29) - Votes Normal Phase.  
> Day 1 post [31](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19904307&postcount=31) - Explains vote.  
> Day 1 post [91](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19904878&postcount=91) - Votes Colby.  
> Day 1 post [187](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19906347&postcount=187) - Urges Patsy to claim.  
> Day 1 post [315](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19908882&postcount=315) - Digs up a bunch of posts voicing “suspicions” of Colby, presumably for Drain Bead.  
> Day 1 post [359](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19909668&postcount=359) - Biotop is creepy.  
> Day 1 post [425](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19911002&postcount=452) - Calls vote for Angel easy, not necessarily bad.  
> Day 1 post [510](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19912068&postcount=510) – Fluff.  
> Day 1 post [586](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19913167&postcount=586) – Angel/rules.  
> Day 1 post [624](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19913601&postcount=624) - “@Guiri”  
> Day 1 post [625](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19913609&postcount=625) – Confusion.  
> Day 1 post [713](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19915719&postcount=713) - Confused about Day/Night stuff.  
> Day 1 post [759](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19916386&postcount=759) – Worried about Colbys silence.  
> Day 1 post [760](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19916393&postcount=760) – Defends her Colby vote. She compares her vote against the Angel vote, which is now a vote for being anti-town, and not good, in her opinion.  
> Day 1 post [765](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19916487&postcount=765) – Calls out Scathach for hypocrisy.  
> Day 1 post [788](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19916702&postcount=788) – Lakai vote is weak? Joke or not, I can’t tell.  
> Day 1 post [865](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19917826&postcount=865) – Fluff  
> Day 1 post [874](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19917901&postcount=874) – Urges Patsy to claim.  
> Day 1 post [947](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19919279&postcount=947) – More Colby.  
> Day 1 post [1269](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19923530&postcount=1269) – Apparently she found Lakai scummy after all. But Colby is more scummy.  
> Day 1 post [1276](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19923587&postcount=1276) – Urging for a watcher claim or crumb.  
> Day 1 post [1315](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19924202&postcount=1315) - OOG fluff.
> 
> No mention of ToeJam, a few contradicting mentions of Lakai and Angel, barely a mention of septimus and parked all Day on Colby.
> 
> Format shamelessly stolen from Guiri (I think?).

I agree with your TexCat analysis here, primarily because she knows Colby’s syntax and started the train on him.

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**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/75 "2017-01-18T13:36:56Z")

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Sorry to quote the same post twice to make different points.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/76 "2017-01-18T13:42:22Z")

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> [@paulwhoisaghost](#):
>
> At least two of them subbed out right? I know the guy I took over for didn’t vote… I’m still not caught up, but so far I haven’t even seen him post. You should be doing the work to figure out who those 7 players are and then seeing who was even active enough to post at least once. Don’t bring up a topic and wait for others to fill in the blanks… it pings me… like you’re casting a wide net so you don’t have to commit to calling people out directly.
> 
> But then again you pinged me last game too…
> 
> Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

Welcome to the game, Paul! I ping a lot of people, I’m afraid. It’s just my style.

Regarding your point, I went from general to specific: see Post 46. I expressed agreement with a vote on ToeJam, but for other reasons voted Sario.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/77 "2017-01-18T13:46:43Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
>
> Eh, it’s not _that_ daunting. In a more normal-sized game with 20 players, we’d expect to lost 2 players in the first cycle, and that’s 10%, too.

It feels way more daunting than that, to me. Bah.  
As for pointing fingers, I’ll say who I suspected from Day 1:  
TexCat for the policy vote, which in my opinion was a potential way to hide motivation.

Angel for the rules issue, which in my opinion was a potential way to hide motivation.

Total Lost for, again in my opinion, trying to force a soft claim into a hard claim.

Prof. Pepperwinkle for saying that he wouldn’t post much because he would only fluff but that we should lynch other people who don’t post much.

Lakai for saying that he was trying to post in a way that wouldn’t lead to dying.

Pleonast had weird interactions with a couple of people, though it’s hard for me to capture exactly what it was that pinged me.

And essentially every person who said “Oh, X just plays that way” or “X wouldn’t do that” or similar posts.

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**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/78 "2017-01-18T13:49:24Z")

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> [@AngeloftheNorth](#):
>
> LightFoot is a great player, but for some reason I’m sensitive to her scum tells. I can’t articulate them well, but I feel them. FWIW I have her in the almost definitely town column right now.

I’m not at all sensitive to her tells, I just generally feel intimidated by her.

On your other point, I agree. She knows Colby, went ahead anyway and never commented on our doubts regarding the slip, due to foot-in-mouth syndrome or whatever it is called.

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/79 "2017-01-18T13:49:28Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
>
> It feels way more daunting than that, to me. Bah.  
> As for pointing fingers, I’ll say who I suspected from Day 1:  
> TexCat for the policy vote, which in my opinion was a potential way to hide motivation.
> 
> Angel for the rules issue, which in my opinion was a potential way to hide motivation.
> 
> Total Lost for, again in my opinion, trying to force a soft claim into a hard claim.
> 
> Prof. Pepperwinkle for saying that he wouldn’t post much because he would only fluff but that we should lynch other people who don’t post much.
> 
> Lakai for saying that he was trying to post in a way that wouldn’t lead to dying.
> 
> Pleonast had weird interactions with a couple of people, though it’s hard for me to capture exactly what it was that pinged me.
> 
> And essentially every person who said “Oh, X just plays that way” or “X wouldn’t do that” or similar posts.

No, I said I wouldn’t post as much as usual. I was still in the top 10 posters for D1. And not everything I posted was fluff.

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**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/80 "2017-01-18T14:07:40Z")

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> [@AngeloftheNorth](#):
>
> \*\*He’s a fairly consistent player and he’s not acting consistently now-- up to and including the late “town” claim. (I don’t think everyone has to claim town. I think he always does.)

You’re voting for him because he didn’t do his patented pointless direct Town claim in a timely enough fashion? What, you think **Idle** got a scum PM, and then sat around for several days trying to work himself up the nerve to lie? Do you want to note anything else as inconsistent about his play?

To be completely honest, I was more convinced by your OMGUS vote on me yesterday and that was an argument about _me_ and had nothing going for it other than I was a big meanie who wasn’t being generous enough with my interpretations of your words. You’re either scum grasping for straws and looking for any sort of opening, or you’re just dreadful at this.

**vote: AngeloftheNorth**

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