# Mafia Reunion - Day Two **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [January 17, 2017, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425 "2017-01-17T22:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 43
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/841 "2017-01-22T02:38:24Z")
> [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > Bolding mine. > > **I’m leaning toward a theory where Crys is telling the truth and Brewha is a lying scum who doesn’t actually have the switch she claims and was hoping for a town counterclaim. That way they take out the townie… and maybe Brewha is in hot water, but if they aren’t actually holding that switch, scum would have gained sole control of the Batswitch.** > > Unvote DiggitCamara \*\* > I have even more problems with DiggitCamara toDay… and will compile those when I can get off my phone and on a computer… but for now, the Crys/Brewha race is a lot more pressing. > > [Color=blu\*\*Vote Brewha \*\*[/vote] > > Of the two, I’d much rather lynch a liar who had a very scummy motivation to lie than a self proclaimed 3rd party that may or may not be communicating in code. > > Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk #699 It’s even in the post where I voted you… well… attempted to… the actual vote was when I noticed the improper formatting in the next couple of posts… I’ve bolded the requested section. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/842 "2017-01-22T02:40:03Z")
> [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > #699 It’s even in the post where I voted you… well… attempted to… the actual vote was when I noticed the improper formatting in the next couple of posts… > I’ve bolded the requested section. > > Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk Dude. Sleep it off. Post again when you’re sober. ---
**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/843 "2017-01-22T02:42:11Z")
I don’t see anything I can do to gain any trust. I have told you everything I have to tell. At this point I’m done smacking my head on the wall in front of me. Yes I made mistakes but there is one thing that everyone is screaming about reading rules etc. This one line at the bottom of the rules posted by storyteller tells that I’m not a win stealer. Third party win conditions are checked after checking all three of the above. Thus, a Town win supersedes an exclusive third party win even if both occur simultaneously. So even if I did have a win con that could possibly steal yours which i do not, you are willing to waste a lynch on me. I’m certain that scum will most likely take me out overnight or they may let me live a day or two just for wifom. Point is I’m done arguing this day. ---
**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/844 "2017-01-22T02:43:52Z")
Oh yeah…Scumbo’s if you leave me alive I’m flipping that switch again! I will do it everyday so you can’t protect your own. hopefully the other one with the bodyguard switch doesn’t flip theirs also. However I’m pretty sure they can read this tbh…I mean it has to be one of us right? ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/845 "2017-01-22T02:45:07Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > And for the record, I think brewha is town. I believe he was legitimatelying trying to figure out his switch thingy when he claimed. And if he was scum, he would have just asked his scum brethren on their secret board. This guy’s got it. Here’s the part that really makes this game a challenge. Normally, scum can snuggle up with townies since they know who’s not scum. They can agree with certain people and when those people are confirmed town, they can say " see! I knew it! I’m with that guy!" Not so in this town. The two scum factions know who is on their team - but dont’ know that anyone not on their team is necessarily town. Texcat and Chrys both seem unreasonably snuggly with me. I first thought they were scum trying to get on the good side of a townie - since I know I am. But if either of them were mafia or wolf - there is no way for them to know I’m not a part of the other scum faction. ---
**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/846 "2017-01-22T02:48:03Z")
> [@brewha](#): > > This guy’s got it. > > Here’s the part that really makes this game a challenge. Normally, scum can snuggle up with townies since they know who’s not scum. They can agree with certain people and when those people are confirmed town, they can say " see! I knew it! I’m with that guy!" > > Not so in this town. The two scum factions know who is on their team - but dont’ know that anyone not on their team is necessarily town. > > Texcat and Chrys both seem unreasonably snuggly with me. I first thought they were scum trying to get on the good side of a townie - since I know I am. But if either of them were mafia or wolf - there is no way for them to know I’m not a part of the other scum faction. You’re right I was kinda snuggly with you but then when I came back completely sober no pain meds at all I realized the pm I thought was yours was actually someone elses and your’s looked nothing like mine. You might not be scum but you could have fangs and claws! ---
**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/847 "2017-01-22T02:52:25Z")
One more thing that seems to bug me…why does Brewha have the batman switch. I mean so far it seems like others have things that control powers of other factions. Doesn’t anyone think its strange that brewha has claimed town and has a town power switch? I think its strange it would make logical sense in my mind that each scum faction could have a half of that switch. It seems kind of unbalanced imo for town to have a town switch. ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/848 "2017-01-22T02:52:27Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Lady resort = last resort (autocorrect)? Just guessing. Otherwise, help me out. > > As far as mod-killing, the argument against it is that we end up out of balance, right? Because this is a very large game and we might actually get more participation if we had fewer players, if that makes any sense. I think folks end up a day (real day, not game Day) or so behind, look at the enormous amount of catch up they have to do and just freeze. > > Is there any way to make catching up easier? I looked at the email digest option and couldn’t get it to work (although I need to check my spam filter - I will go look there). > > Any other ideas? We could have summaries, but who would do them? I think the closest we can get to them is the vote counts. Maybe someone else out there has another thought on how players who have fallen behind can get a concise read on the data stream. I read the 10 most recent pages… due to quoting you can get a lot of relevant info about what is going on in those ten pages… don’t understand what they are talking about? Click the link to the quoted post… keep doing that and if you still don’t feel you have a grasp, don’t comment on it. When you finish those 10 pages then you go back and read everything else and comment as you go. It’s not ideal, but it helps. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/849 "2017-01-22T02:53:27Z")
> [@Crys75](#): > > Oh yeah…Scumbo’s if you leave me alive I’m flipping that switch again! I will do it everyday so you can’t protect your own. hopefully the other one with the bodyguard switch doesn’t flip theirs also. However I’m pretty sure they can read this tbh…I mean it has to be one of us right? No no no! We WANT them to protect. This early at least. That will net us 2 scmballios. ---
**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/850 "2017-01-22T02:54:46Z")
One last thing before someone tries to make a mountain out of a molehill I am 3rd party and I have half of the bodyguard switch and Captain Klutz, if we take his claim at face value is town and has a scum power switch. He never said which one (and please don’t) Which is what led me to the above conclusion. I still think brewha belongs to a scum faction at this point considering everything. See you guys tomorrow 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/851 "2017-01-22T02:55:16Z")
> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#): > > (snips) > > “Hi. I’m not actually reading the post of your role that clearly indicated that you and your cultists win if the game ends in “any way” and at least one of you are alive. I’m just going to jump on a not very well-thought out wagon and claim a bullshit reason for doing so. You know, if I actually thought you were lying about it, I might have a valid case here. But nothing in my post idicates this.” > > (more snips) > > But in the end one person edges out the rest of you: > > **vote Hockey Monkey** I thought I had a “Gotcha”. Did you read any further down where I checked myself on the win-con? (post #590 if you care to check) When I’m on my mobile, I can’t do a lot of fancy quoting and copy and pasting, or for that matter make a super long post about anything. Hell, I don’t do a lot of that when I’m on a regular keyboard with a mouse. I did read her post and forgot about how the win-cons resolve. Going strictly by the text of the PM, I thought I was onto something, but misinterpreted what was there. Though I’m not 100% convinced it’s authentic in every way. Are you? Is anyone else? And if you want to vote for me for not posting a lengthy explanation with my vote, there is a whole more finger pointing to go around. I have different thoughts than you on 3P roles and don’t trust them. At all. \*\*Brewha \*\*is a liar and liars must be lynched. If he’s not a 3P then he’s scum. Do I want to set aside these two birds in hand for a chance at a mislynch? Nope. I do want them both lynched today because we will get information. Information with which to weigh the truthfulness of their claims, judge future claims, and if one or both get revealed as scum, YAY! **Crys** ’ whole claim and seeming attempt to save \*\*Brewha \*\*so she could investigate him to confirm him is why I’m leaving my vote for right now. Why would we trust her to confirm him? Why did she think he’s LUTHA in the first place? Why did he say he’s not when (being he’s a lying liar) he could have lied and said he was and “reverse confirmed” her and himself by association. There is too much hanky panky up in here, but I’ll be happy to change my vote over to **Brewha**. I don’t care which goes first and who is runner up. ---
**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/852 "2017-01-22T02:57:33Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > No no no! We WANT them to protect. This early at least. That will net us 2 scmballios. Dude your crushing me dramatic end scene before my death lol. I’m sure somehow I will be dead tomorrow. Losing me will give some trust later for my LUTHA peeps unless you guys come to our senses and Leave Us The Hell Alone…I \<3 you guys but i don’t see that happening 😃 ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/853 "2017-01-22T02:59:51Z")
> [@Crys75](#): > > Dude your crushing me dramatic end scene before my death lol. I’m sure somehow I will be dead tomorrow. Losing me will give some trust later for my LUTHA peeps unless you guys come to our senses and Leave Us The Hell Alone…I \<3 you guys but i don’t see that happening 😃 Oh yeah, you survivalist cultists weirdo. You don’t care who wins. ---
**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/854 "2017-01-22T03:02:05Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Paul, you’re voting brewha because you suspect he’s scum trying to find either batman or the other batman switch holder, right? And you’re not voting Crys because she’s claimed non-exclusive 3rd party who is not a threat to town, and there’s no scum motivation for her claim? > > I get the first bit, still seems like an overly risky ploy to identify a player who so far has not killed scum and usually hurts town more than not. > > As for Crys, so little of her claim makes sense - we are clearly missing her real motivation - investigating Drain, when there was a massive pool of non-claimants, not claiming D1 when invited to, not stepping in to save Colby, Toejam or Lakai but considering brewha worth the risk for no clear reason, confusing/misreading the role her switch controls. > > Brewha, it’s asking a lot to forgive that one lie… It was night one sorry I’m not psychic enough to know who to search for immediately. I could have picked anyone one of you. I went to the player list and literally [random.org](http://random.org)’d for the target. ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/855 "2017-01-22T03:02:28Z")
> [@brewha](#): > > For fuck’s sake. Brewha has a penis. And is completely OK with abiding by the social norms of gender identification. > > That post did a damned good job of nothing. You’re saying that you think I’m scum without a switch? The only way I’d know that batman was a switchable power was that I got a PM saying as much. > > I could be town with a switch or scum with a switch pretending I’m town. But, there is no way that scum - with no knowledge that batman was a switchable power - would pretend to be a vanilla townie with a switch. Are you really trying to say that you don’t realize that scum could communicate with each other, so all scum would have access to switch PMs through their fellow scum? I’m sorry, but this “town slip” is a little hard to swallow given your current predicament. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/856 "2017-01-22T03:05:12Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Oh yeah, you survivalist cultists weirdo. You don’t care who wins. I’m not a survivor you will see eventually. I’m just completely frustrated by this at this point. I apologized for my errors of posting while stoned. I even did some scum hunting and made a few posts on why I think brewha is scum/wolves. I’ve shared my pm, wincon, My PM was word for word almost identical to Captains. Idk what else to do. I have botched this game for myself. I’m hoping my death/sacrifice to the wolves will make things easier for the rest of the Lutha. I’m done posting now 🙂 see you all on reveal. ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/857 "2017-01-22T03:05:14Z")
> [@brewha](#): > > Your lack of respect for the written language is killing me. Da fuck is with all the ellipses? > \*\*“If the my can eliminate him… good.” \*\* > > Can you translate that into something coherent, please? > > I’d love to debate, but haven’t a clue what your point is. Sure… … … “if they can eliminate him.” I’m sorry for participating the way most convenient for me… … … from a phone… Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/858 "2017-01-22T03:06:41Z")
And people wondered why none of us claimed Day 1. Ok now im done posting for reals. Its bed time. ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/859 "2017-01-22T03:08:33Z")
> [@brewha](#): > > Dude. Sleep it off. Post again when you’re sober. You can’t parse my posts because I use ellipsis to show pauses in my actual thought process while I post? I’m not drunk, you seem to be the only player having trouble following my logic or understanding my posts, and you are bordering on being insulting and derogatory. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/860 "2017-01-22T03:14:23Z")
I believe in the multilynch, and Crys75 has a hinky story with no proof whatsoever. **unvote paulwhoisaghost vote Crys75** I will look SERIOUS askance at any one-off voters and non-voters who do not elect to move votes in such a way as to ensure we have a multi-lynch today. \*\*Sach \*\*is right–town benefits from it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425.md?page=42) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425.md?page=44)