# Mafia Reunion - Day Two

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 17, 2017, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425 "2017-01-17T22:20:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/1041 "2017-01-22T19:58:21Z")

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Of the voters yesterDay and toDay for ToeJam, the only overlap is Sunny Daze, Hooker Chemical, sinjin, biotop, and Guiri. Three other voters are now dead. Those who voted yesterDay bit not toDay are sachertorte, Prof. P, BillMC, EnderW24, Chronos, and snfaulkner.  
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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/1042 "2017-01-22T19:59:37Z")

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> [@MHaye](#):
>
> [snip] or a player about who we know nothing, who has been caught snuggling, claiming one behaviour and exhibiting another but who has a possibly problematic job.
> 
> Vote ToeJam

So you don’t think voting for me Day 3 would be better?  
Why is it so many people need me dead today rather than just waiting one more Day for me to be lynched? :dubious:

And I do have a problematic Job. It’s not “possibly”, it is just outright problematic.  
I requested for a substitution but they couldn’t find any, and so I’ve been trying to post like crazy since I got the notification.

-Unless you think I’m actively lurking (Which i cannot defend), being less active to more active now still isn’t enough though to salvage me from D1’s complaints?

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/1043 "2017-01-22T20:00:38Z")

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if i die. LOOK AT MY D2 POSTS ALL OF THEM.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/1044 "2017-01-22T20:00:42Z")

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Everyone else currently on the ToeJam wagon did not end D1 voting for him. I suppose the next step is to figure out who they did vote for.  
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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/1045 "2017-01-22T20:02:45Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> Everyone else currently on the ToeJam wagon did not end D1 voting for him. I suppose the next step is to figure out who they did vote for.  
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Well day is done but I’m just volunteering that i voted yesterday for lakai.

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/1046 "2017-01-22T20:05:37Z")

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Shit, I was trying to get caught up since last night and missed the deadline. I really have a problem with the sudden \*\*ToeJam \*\*surge and I was contemplating changing my vote to **Brewha** , because of how weird he was acting last night. I’m not sure what the final count was but I hope \*\*Brewha \*\*edged out and got the lynch.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/1047 "2017-01-22T20:06:30Z")

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I think I missed sachertorte as being a double ToeJam voter. Sorry, sach.  
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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/1048 "2017-01-22T20:07:22Z")

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> [@ToeJam](#):
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> So you don’t think voting for me Day 3 would be better?  
> Why is it so many people need me dead today rather than just waiting one more Day for me to be lynched? :dubious:

I sort of believe Brewha’s claim, absent evidence against. The falsehood has been explained in a reasonable way. I have no claim from you to compare.

> [@](#):
>
> And I do have a problematic Job. It’s not “possibly”, it is just outright problematic.  
> I requested for a substitution but they couldn’t find any, and so I’ve been trying to post like crazy since I got the notification.

“Possibly” problematic referred to my belief, based on an aging memory, that you have a job that requires crazy work hours.

According to my clock 8:00pm is passed, and votes are frozen for Storyteller to post Night, which will be after he gets back.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/1049 "2017-01-22T20:20:05Z")

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So of the two groups of voters who are still alive, we have:

**Voted for ToeJam yesterDay but not toDay**  
Professor P.  
BillMC  
EnderW24  
Chronos  
snfaulkner

I’ll figure out who they voted for toDay in a few. I’m on my phone and searching is a PITA.

\*\* Players who voted for ToeJam toDay but not yesterDay\*\*  
Idle Thoughts

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/1050 "2017-01-22T20:23:02Z")

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Gah. Accidentally hit post early.  
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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/1051 "2017-01-22T20:24:34Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> So of the two groups of voters who are still alive, we have:
> 
> **Voted for ToeJam yesterDay but not toDay**  
> Professor P.  
> BillMC  
> EnderW24  
> Chronos  
> snfaulkner
> 
> I’ll figure out who they voted for toDay in a few. I’m on my phone and searching is a PITA.
> 
> \*\* Players who voted for ToeJam toDay but not yesterDay\*\*  
> Idle Thoughts
> 
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NETA the full list.

Idle  
December  
Thing Fish  
brewha  
Captain Klutz  
nesta  
jsgoddess  
MHaye

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/1052 "2017-01-22T20:25:37Z")

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December = raventhief  
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**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/1053 "2017-01-22T20:26:59Z")

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So we had an eleventh hour vote swing to someone based solely on lack of participation? In a claim with a lot of people openly admitting to having trouble participating under the sheer size of the game? This doesn’t add up for me.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/1054 "2017-01-22T20:33:39Z")

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I believe this was the final vote count. Please check your vote and my counting ability.

\*\*VOTE COUNT

1 – brewha (16 votes) – Chronos (538), Biotop (543), Boozahol Squid (556), Cometothe…Cookies (575), bufftabby (622), Drain Bead (638), paulwhoisaghost (702), Khameleon (716), Lakai (720), Meeko (726), crys(743), Johnnyb(767), Profpepper(794), billmc(947), TotalLost(956), Innerstickler(1033),

2- Crys75 (8 votes) – Hockey Monkey (584), DiggitCamara (588), AngeloftheNorth (595), Texcat (639), snfaulkner (641); Hawkeyeop(803), Zeriel(860), Scathach(959)

ToeJam(14)- Idle Thoughts(32), biotop(909), sachertorte(913), captainklutz(950), sinjin(955), Hooker(988), guiri(995), brewha(998), Thingfish(1000), raventhief(1002), sunnydaze(1023), Mhaye(1036), jsgoddess(1038), nesta(1039),  
PLAYERS WITH ONE VOTE:  
; Hockey Monkey (Hoopy Frood – 665); Texcat (Plumpudding – 68); Thing Fish (Pleonast -121); Chronos (Nanook – 151); Pleonast (1 votes) – Lightfoot (288); snfaulkner(1): koldanar (819)\*\*

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/1055 "2017-01-22T20:43:21Z")

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I am on record requesting the last hour voters state why they voted their choice. they were rushed posts with no back-up explanation.

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**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/1056 "2017-01-22T20:51:38Z")

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(Updated unofficial VOTE COUNT with unvotes, E&OE)

**brewha** (16): [del]bufftabby(373-417)[/del], Chronos (538), [del]Biotop (543-909)[/del], Boozahol Squid (556), Cometothe…Cookies (575), [del]sachertorte (576-913)[/del], [del]Hooker Chemical (621-688)[/del], bufftabby (622), Drain Bead (638), [del]raventhief (646-1002)[/del], paulwhoisaghost (703), Khameleon (716), Lakai (720), [del]Hooker Chemical (722-988)[/del], Meeko (726), ToeJam (730), crys(743), Johnny Bravo(767), Prof. Pepperwinkle(794), BillMc(947), Total Lost (957), Inner Stickler(1033)

**ToeJam** (14): [del]raventhief (31-597)[/del], Idle Thoughts (32), [del]Sunny Daze (34-318)[/del], Biotop (909), sachertorte (913), CaptainKlutz (950), sinjin(955), HookerChemical (988), guiri(995), brewha(998), Thing Fish(1000), raventhief(1002), Sunny Daze (1023), MHaye(1036), jsgoddess(1038), nesta(1039)

**Crys75** (8): [del]Guiri (262-812)[/del], [del]Sunny Daze (568-1023)[/del], Hockey Monkey (584), DiggitCamara (588), AngeloftheNorth (595), Texcat (639), [del]Captain Klutz (640-950)[/del], snfaulkner (641); [del]jsgodess(795-976)[/del], Hawkeyeop(803), Zeriel(860), Scathach (959)

**Texcat** (1): Plumpudding (68)  
**Thing Fish** (1): Pleonast (121)  
**Chronos** (1): Nanook (151)  
**Hockey Monkey** (1): Hoopy Frood (663)  
**snfaulkner** (1): [del]DiggitCamara (250-588)[/del], [del]Textcat (633-639)[/del], [del]Guiri (812-995)[/del], koldanar(819)

**Plumpudding** (0): [del]Sunny Daze (318-508)[/del]  
**Angelofthenorth** (0): [del]Zeriel (60-529)[/del], [del]Boozahol Squid, P.I. (80-556)[/del]  
**Idle Thoughts** (0): [del]Angelofthenorth (44-595)[/del]  
**BillMc** (0): [del]Drain Bead (132-638)[/del], [del]Texcat (179-633)[/del]  
**jsgoddess** (0): [del]Hoopy Frood (294-663)[/del]  
**DiggitCamara** (0): [del]snfaulkner (332-641)[/del], [del]Paulwhoisaghost (386-699)[/del]  
**Captain Klutz** (0): [del]Drain Bead (45-132)[/del], [del]SunnyDaze (567-568)[/del], [del]Crys75 (583-743)[/del]  
**Meeko** (0): [del]Johnny Bravo (169-767)[/del]  
**Sario** (0): [del]Prof. Pepperwinkle (45-794)[/del], [del]Cometothe…Cookies (523-575)[/del]  
**Paulwhoisaghost** (0): [del]Zeriel (529-860)[/del]  
**sachertorte** (1): [del]Meeko (201-726)[/del], [del]brewha (806-998)[/del]  
**Pleonast** (0): Lightfoot (288), [del]Hooker Chemical (295-621)[/del], [del]Thing Fish (297-1000)[/del], [del]jsgoddess (976-1038)[/del]

I think that leaves 5 non-voters:  
EnderW24 - 2 posts  
Hal Briston - 1 post  
Precambrian mollusc  
Red Skeezix  
Sario - 1 post

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/1057 "2017-01-22T20:58:48Z")

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> [@GuiriEnEspana](#):
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> (Updated unofficial VOTE COUNT with unvotes, E&OE)
> 
> **brewha** (16): [del]bufftabby(373-417)[/del], Chronos (538), [del]Biotop (543-909)[/del], Boozahol Squid (556), Cometothe…Cookies (575), [del]sachertorte (576-913)[/del], [del]Hooker Chemical (621-688)[/del], bufftabby (622), Drain Bead (638), [del]raventhief (646-1002)[/del], paulwhoisaghost (703), Khameleon (716), Lakai (720), [del]Hooker Chemical (722-988)[/del], Meeko (726), ToeJam (730), crys(743), Johnny Bravo(767), Prof. Pepperwinkle(794), BillMc(947), Total Lost (957), Inner Stickler(1033)
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> **ToeJam** (14): [del]raventhief (31-597)[/del], Idle Thoughts (32), [del]Sunny Daze (34-318)[/del], Biotop (909), sachertorte (913), CaptainKlutz (950), sinjin(955), HookerChemical (988), guiri(995), brewha(998), Thing Fish(1000), raventhief(1002), Sunny Daze (1023), MHaye(1036), jsgoddess(1038), nesta(1039)
> 
> **Crys75** (8): [del]Guiri (262-812)[/del], [del]Sunny Daze (568-1023)[/del], Hockey Monkey (584), DiggitCamara (588), AngeloftheNorth (595), Texcat (639), [del]Captain Klutz (640-950)[/del], snfaulkner (641); [del]jsgodess(795-976)[/del], Hawkeyeop(803), Zeriel(860), Scathach (959)
> 
> **Texcat** (1): Plumpudding (68)  
> **Thing Fish** (1): Pleonast (121)  
> **Chronos** (1): Nanook (151)  
> **Hockey Monkey** (1): Hoopy Frood (663)  
> **snfaulkner** (1): [del]DiggitCamara (250-588)[/del], [del]Textcat (633-639)[/del], [del]Guiri (812-995)[/del], koldanar(819)
> 
> **Plumpudding** (0): [del]Sunny Daze (318-508)[/del]  
> **Angelofthenorth** (0): [del]Zeriel (60-529)[/del], [del]Boozahol Squid, P.I. (80-556)[/del]  
> **Idle Thoughts** (0): [del]Angelofthenorth (44-595)[/del]  
> **BillMc** (0): [del]Drain Bead (132-638)[/del], [del]Texcat (179-633)[/del]  
> **jsgoddess** (0): [del]Hoopy Frood (294-663)[/del]  
> **DiggitCamara** (0): [del]snfaulkner (332-641)[/del], [del]Paulwhoisaghost (386-699)[/del]  
> **Captain Klutz** (0): [del]Drain Bead (45-132)[/del], [del]SunnyDaze (567-568)[/del], [del]Crys75 (583-743)[/del]  
> **Meeko** (0): [del]Johnny Bravo (169-767)[/del]  
> **Sario** (0): [del]Prof. Pepperwinkle (45-794)[/del], [del]Cometothe…Cookies (523-575)[/del]  
> **Paulwhoisaghost** (0): [del]Zeriel (529-860)[/del]  
> **sachertorte** (1): [del]Meeko (201-726)[/del], [del]brewha (806-998)[/del]  
> **Pleonast** (0): Lightfoot (288), [del]Hooker Chemical (295-621)[/del], [del]Thing Fish (297-1000)[/del], [del]jsgoddess (976-1038)[/del]
> 
> I think that leaves 5 non-voters:  
> EnderW24 - 2 posts  
> Hal Briston - 1 post  
> Precambrian mollusc  
> Red Skeezix  
> Sario - 1 post

We have found subs for both Red and PCM I believe.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/1058 "2017-01-22T21:09:21Z")

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Okay. Looks like I also missed Captain Klutz as being a double ToeJam voter. His vote on D1 was 796.

Of today’s, I looked at Guiri’s post that I quoted in 1029 to see who of today’s ToeJam voters voted for the three vote leaders from D1.

Idle Thoughts did not vote for one of the three. Neither did Thing Fish.

Raventhief voted for Lakai (1109)  
Nesta voted for Lakai (1187)  
jsgoddess voted for Lakai (1129)  
MHaye voted for Lakai (1176)

brewha voted for Colby. (I think his vote for ToeJam toDay was a skin-saving maneuver and am not sure how to treat it.)

I find it interesting that four of the late ToeJam voters were also late Lakai voters. If ToeJam flips Town, that’s something to keep an eye on.  
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**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/1059 "2017-01-22T21:09:49Z")

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> [@paulwhoisaghost](#):
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> There is one point here that I don’t agree with. If Crys flips scum, Sach isn’t necessarily scum. That is to say it doesn’t mean Sach is on the same team as Crys. He could be from the opposing team or he could be a PFK not aligned with the cultists trying to slip in to the group.

I never said Crys flipping scum means that Sach is on the same team. I suppose it’s true that he could be another flavor of third party, but that still makes him a liar and he should still be lynched immediately in that scenario.

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**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/1060 "2017-01-22T21:10:20Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
>
> December = raventhief

Ha!

I agree, this will be interesting to analyze, especially once we have brewha’s reveal. I guess the ones that stand out to me are Raven’s switch off brewha and Inner and nesta’s drive-by. It seems there were too many late votes for a failed effort to save a scumbag though?

As for the votes and unvotes, I don’t think there was a good chance of crys reaching the threshold for second lynch, we came much closer with the brewha/toejam face off.

And I see an error in my vote count, Lightfoot had a vote on Pleo which is there but Pleo is displayed as having 0 votes.

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