# Mafia Reunion - Day Two

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/1321 "2017-01-24T17:56:48Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> I’m sorry I’ve been AWOL this past week. I completely suck and I have no excuse. I promise that as Day 3 starts I’m going to be more active in this game.
> 
> I want to talk about a few things though:
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> > [@Pleonast](#):
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> > Conversely, we need to get 14 lynches correct to win.
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> > I can’t see Town being required to lynch 5 more third parties on top of that. But, we really need to see those players publicly claim so.
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> Our win condition isn’t to kill third party. It doesn’t matter how many 3rd parties there are. Town wins “if at any checkpoint (Dawn or Dusk) all 14 Scum players (Wolves + Mafia) are dead.”
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> That said, I don’t trust **Crys75** and I don’t think anyone else should either. The list of Role PMs don’t include ones for 3rd party. There are only a couple of investigative roles and, best case scenario, we find out Crys is being truthful in 3rd party claim but NOT what his win condition is.
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> In other words, it would be extremely simple to lie and say your win condition has nothing to do with and won’t interfere with Town’s win condition. There’s no possible way we can confirm that. I’ve played in games where a 3rd party claims early with that exact story and the end result was that they were quite truthful about their status and very much lying about what it took for them to win.

Well that is the dilemma. But if they have a win condition that can interfere with ours, that means we do need to lynch them before we lynch all the Scum. Thus increasing our lynch burden substantially. That doesn’t seem plausible if there is 5 of them. But what if there’s fewer, maybe 2? Then eliminating them is not unreasonable.

This is the reasoning why Town needs to see all LUTHA claim sooner rather than later. Having 5 players saying “yes, I’m LUTHA” and cross-confirming each other would completely remove them as a threat, in mine eyes. Five is the number claimed and so having five actually claiming would virtually confirm them (just like claimed Masons, one would have to die at some point to confirm the group as a whole). I’d advocate lynching anyone trying to lynch LUTHA at that point, since they’d be threatening only to Scum at that point.

But either fewer or more than that indicates someone is lying. And we’d have to start lynching claimed LUTHA once we have a few Scum eliminated.

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