# Mafia Reunion - Day Two

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**Created:** [January 17, 2017, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425 "2017-01-17T22:20:08Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/1327 "2017-01-24T18:24:16Z")

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> [@Crys75](#):
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> Yeah but it makes it easier for your vig to take us out one by one and totally eliminates our chance of winning at all. I am totally 100% against this. I mean if I were vig if i had an unknown pool of 20 players and then 5 known third parties I would pick them off one at a time unless I had a super strong suspicion about others.
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> I mean they could start picking of the lurkers, but there are no guarantees they will hit scum also. It’s common sense. I offered to work with town, and I plan on doing so if I am left alive, however for the safety of my teams win condition I can’t have the rest of us coming out and claiming. That is a for sure lose for LUTHA.

If the Vig is killing confirmed third parties, they are playing to lose, by advancing the Scum win conditions and not advancing the Town win condition. Yeah, it’s possible the Vig could sabotage us, but I wouldn’t base my tactics around it. (Also note that one player alone has the switch for the Vig now. It’s quite possible we’ll see no more Vig kills.)

But when players say “there’s 5 of us” and yet only 2 have been produced, that greatly weakens your claims. Are you lying about your numbers? We can’t tell. Your actual numbers is the part of your claim that can be verified. The longer it remains unverified, the more it looks like you’re lying to us.

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