# Mafia Reunion - NIGHT ZERO **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [January 4, 2017, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315 "2017-01-04T16:43:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/141 "2017-01-05T16:56:54Z")
I’m reading over the list of roles, and while I see three different roles that can turn switches on or off, I see no other references to what the hell a switch might be in this game. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/142 "2017-01-05T16:57:30Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > I know you don’t care that we’ve received our PMs, but I’ve received my PM. So yeah. > Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk A tip of the hat to you. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/143 "2017-01-05T16:58:37Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > I’m reading over the list of roles, and while I see three different roles that can turn switches on or off, I see no other references to what the hell a switch might be in this game. That’s probably confusing huh? It’s all out there. Keep reading stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/144 "2017-01-05T17:02:27Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > That’s probably confusing huh? It’s all out there. Keep reading stuff. I’m not sure I want to. You gave the bad guys cool sounding roles like “The Hitman” and “The Outrider,” and you gave us… what “The Leprechaun” and “Alternate Universe Batman?” The best Townie role name is “The Watcher” and that still just sounds like some Marvel Universe neutral Alien thingy. Total bullshit. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/145 "2017-01-05T17:02:54Z")
Wow. This is gonna be complicated. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/146 "2017-01-05T17:08:14Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > I’m not sure I want to. You gave the bad guys cool sounding roles like “The Hitman” and “The Outrider,” and you gave us… what “The Leprechaun” and “Alternate Universe Batman?” The best Townie role name is “The Watcher” and that still just sounds like some Marvel Universe neutral Alien thingy. > > Total bullshit. :mad: What, you don’t want to be the Zoning Inspector? ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/147 "2017-01-05T17:09:30Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > I’m not sure I want to. You gave the bad guys cool sounding roles like “The Hitman” and “The Outrider,” and you gave us… what “The Leprechaun” and “Alternate Universe Batman?” The best Townie role name is “The Watcher” and that still just sounds like some Marvel Universe neutral Alien thingy. > > Total bullshit. :mad: You know, I had a cooler name for Alt Universe Batman, but I got out voted on what was funniest. Town has the best color. Doc Seward is pretty cool too. Calm down the. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/148 "2017-01-05T17:10:33Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > I’m not sure I want to. You gave the bad guys cool sounding roles like “The Hitman” and “The Outrider,” and you gave us… what “The Leprechaun” and “Alternate Universe Batman?” The best Townie role name is “The Watcher” and that still just sounds like some Marvel Universe neutral Alien thingy. > > Total bullshit. :mad: I like the way you subtly indicated that you are one of “us”, and not one of “the bad guys”, here. Very clever. I’ll be keeping a close eye on you. Ahhh…it’s just like riding a bike, this game… ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/149 "2017-01-05T17:12:38Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > What, you don’t want to be the Zoning Inspector? I guess it’s better than The Patsy or Basement Based Tinkerer. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/150 "2017-01-05T17:15:06Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > I like the way you subtly indicated that you are one of “us”, and not one of “the bad guys”, here. Very clever. > > I’ll be keeping a close eye on you. Fine then, be that way. If you don’t like my amusing banter, I’ll just go to the other, secret board and tell the guys there. They’ll appreciate my humor. Wait… d’oh! :smack: 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/151 "2017-01-05T17:16:30Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > I guess it’s better than The Patsy or Basement Based Tinkerer. Heck, I wanted to be Basement Based Tinkerer. It fits. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/152 "2017-01-05T17:18:54Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > I guess it’s better than The Patsy or Basement Based Tinkerer. Come off it. Homicide detective, investigative reporter, doctor Seward, masons who are badass. Town has great color. The Patsy is Clemenza FFS. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/153 "2017-01-05T17:19:50Z")
> [@Crys75](#): > > Me either > > Sent from my XT1526 using Tapatalk I don’t agree. Although you can’t get scum/not scum reads from a player that doesn’t know who they are yet, it is an opportunity to discuss the pesky game mechanics. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/154 "2017-01-05T17:26:54Z")
The Understudy role appears to be a bit dysfunctional. They can gain the power of someone who died Night 1, but they have to choose who to understudy before the Dawn of Day 2. But we won’t get the Night 1 deaths until then. What happens if the Omega/Consigliere use their power at the same time as the Hitman/Outrider (assuming that Hitman/Outrider target someone who’s actually protected)? Does the protector die, as per Hitman/Outrider, or does the protection being canceled prevent that? If the Hitman/Outrider is targeted at the same person as a killing power, does the death of the protector prevent the protection from working? How can the Hitman kill the EMT (or conversely, the Outrider and Dr. Steward), given that their powers work at different times? What happens if the target of the Mafia day-kill gets lynched? Oh, and I am the proud owner of a role PM, for what it’s worth. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/155 "2017-01-05T17:30:16Z")
Oh, and… Since the Mafia kills by day, does that mean that their kills don’t contribute to the extra-lynch count? That seems like a pretty big asymmetry, and also makes it really hard to get to the three Townies dead in a Night threshold. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/156 "2017-01-05T17:44:51Z")
**You should all have access to the proper Google Document now. Please don’t attempt to edit it or ask for ownership to edit it. It generates an email to me asking for permission, which you obviously don’t have. You can view and only view.** ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/157 "2017-01-05T17:48:46Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > I tend to agree… so what’s the best thing to do when there’s nothing to talk about? > > Why start drinking, of course! > > With the death of the Mayor, I see very little reason to wait around for the approval of my liquor license, so I hereby announce the re-re-re-opening of BoozySquid’s Corner Bar! > > Tonight only, our special will be: > > **The Trifecta!** > > In honor of three factions, triple lynching, and **Autolycus, Peekercpa** and **Santo Rugger** , for tonight only, any three types of liquor you want, shaken over crushed wolf’s bane and served in a block of ice delicately chiseled in the shape of Snake Plisken’s head. Warning: the eye patch is much thinner than the rest of the container, and may leak slightly. I’ll have a Soho Martini, if you please. Something nice and easy to drink to get started. I’ll save the neat whiskey for when I’m curled up in a corner trying desperately to deduce which of the remaining two other players is the last scum, because that when I need it most. ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/158 "2017-01-05T17:50:22Z")
I have my PM and I’ll start going through the roles but it looks like others are ahead of me in asking questions. This game will result in me hunkered down in a corner whimpering. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/159 "2017-01-05T17:58:20Z")
> [@HookerChemical](#): > > This game will result in me hunkered down in a corner whimpering. **Try modding it.** 😃 ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/160 "2017-01-05T18:04:51Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > **Try modding it.** 😃 You’ve already killed an intern. Nope. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315.md?page=9)