# Mafia Reunion - NIGHT ZERO

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**Created:** [January 4, 2017, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315 "2017-01-04T16:43:51Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/444 "2017-01-07T16:04:58Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> I see little benefit and plenty of risks in discussing what town roles should or should not do. Let each player decide the best course for their own role. Remember, at least a quarter of current players have win conditions in opposition to ours. Do not take advice from anyone not confirmed as Town. Reread the second sentence of this paragraph.
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> If you feel a need to discuss roles, let’s focus on what the Scum roles might do. What tactics and gambits should we be prepared for. How Mafia and Wolves might try to coordinate. How third parties might try to.
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> And speaking of coordination, I’ll consider post editing extremely suspicious. Mafia, Wolves, and Third Parties have no easy means to coordinate. Putting a message in a post when another player is known to be online and then editing it before anyone else is likely to see it is a possible gambit.

I’ve thought about this more and I don’t see the argument for being silent about what town roles should do.

First, I don’t assume that I’m going to say something brilliant that no one else could think of, and that therefore I am giving the scum something they wouldn’t. Especially because we know that each scum team gets to pool its smarts. The only way for Town to pool its smarts is through conversation. And if it’s a mistake to talk about how to use Town roles, surely it would be more of a mistake to talk about how to use scum roles, wouldn’t it? I don’t think talking hurts Town, except perhaps in some closed games.

Second, when people are talking, they may show inconsistencies with their own gameplay in this game. And given that many people in this game have played many many games with the same people, it may show inconsistencies with their stated reasoning and/or gameplay in previous games. If someone has always been against anyone claiming Day 1 and is suddenly for it, well, that’s an inconsistency to note.

Third, no one is preventing any person from playing their role as they see fit, merely offering more potential information. Sure, some of the advice might come from a scummy viewpoint, but we want people to expose their scummy viewpoints.

So, while I’m still neutral on the Patsy claiming, I think I’m in favor of talking about it. And we’ve surely got some time to kill, for the love of Mike.

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