# Mafia REUNION observation and comments ie the FORBIDDEN THREAD **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [January 6, 2017, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-observation-and-comments-ie-the-forbidden-thread/776439 "2017-01-06T02:30:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-observation-and-comments-ie-the-forbidden-thread/776439/281 "2017-03-01T01:52:42Z")
Ahoy! I am dead and request spoilage. ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-observation-and-comments-ie-the-forbidden-thread/776439/282 "2017-03-02T18:53:51Z")
All right, you old timers. Which of you veterans of the famous Batman game is behind [this](https://io9.gizmodo.com/one-of-batman-the-animated-series-best-episodes-comes-1792786483)? ---
**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-observation-and-comments-ie-the-forbidden-thread/776439/283 "2017-03-04T16:24:40Z")
I’m dead and want spoils please 🙂 Sent from my XT1526 using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-observation-and-comments-ie-the-forbidden-thread/776439/284 "2017-03-04T17:29:51Z")
> [@Crys75](#): > > I’m dead and want spoils please 🙂 > > Sent from my XT1526 using Tapatalk Coming up. But you have to post in the spoiler discussion thread. No drive by spoiling. :dubious: I’m tired of people getting spoiled and not sticking around to talk. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-observation-and-comments-ie-the-forbidden-thread/776439/285 "2017-03-05T05:09:01Z")
Are they spoiling your fun? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sario/32/18580_2.png) [@Sario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sario)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-observation-and-comments-ie-the-forbidden-thread/776439/286 "2017-03-06T15:46:18Z")
I am again looking for a sub for my game on Giraffe boards. If anyone is interested please pm me here or there. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-observation-and-comments-ie-the-forbidden-thread/776439/287 "2017-03-06T16:57:23Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Coming up. But you have to post in the spoiler discussion thread. No drive by spoiling. :dubious: > > I’m tired of people getting spoiled and not sticking around to talk. What the heck. I’ll get spoiled too. ---
**Author:** ![Cygnus42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Cygnus42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cygnus42)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-observation-and-comments-ie-the-forbidden-thread/776439/288 "2017-03-06T20:40:43Z")
All caught up on this thread…please send me the spoiler info too. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-observation-and-comments-ie-the-forbidden-thread/776439/289 "2017-03-06T21:15:46Z")
I wonder why (it appears that) the Mafia have started using their daykills on Lutha. Could it be that they know something the rest of us don’t? Can’t really imagine how that might have come to pass, though… My vote analysis system is sending up loud sirens and flashing red lights about the Day 2 Brewha voters. It expected to find 4 or 5 Scum among those 16 voters, but 13 of them have now flipped, and only two were Scum. The other three are **bufftabby, Lakai** , and **Johnny Bravo,**. Almost as suspicious are the D6 **Inner Stickler** voters; it expects to find 2 scum among those 7, 3 of whom are now dead Town, so predicts 2 Scum among **TexCat** , **Johnny Bravo, raventhief** and **Lakai.** I have slacked off a bit, but will catch up and post updated scum predictions after the Nightkill(s). ---
**Author:** ![Cygnus42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Cygnus42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cygnus42)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-observation-and-comments-ie-the-forbidden-thread/776439/290 "2017-03-06T21:37:14Z")
Still unspoiled here…but I definitely expect Johnny B to turn up Mafia. ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-observation-and-comments-ie-the-forbidden-thread/776439/291 "2017-03-06T23:00:46Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > I wonder why (it appears that) the Mafia have started using their daykills on Lutha. Could it be that they know something the rest of us don’t? Can’t really imagine how that might have come to pass, though… > > My vote analysis system is sending up loud sirens and flashing red lights about the Day 2 Brewha voters. It expected to find 4 or 5 Scum among those 16 voters, but 13 of them have now flipped, and only two were Scum. The other three are **bufftabby, Lakai** , and **Johnny Bravo,**. Almost as suspicious are the D6 **Inner Stickler** voters; it expects to find 2 scum among those 7, 3 of whom are now dead Town, so predicts 2 Scum among **TexCat** , **Johnny Bravo, raventhief** and **Lakai.** I have slacked off a bit, but will catch up and post updated scum predictions after the Nightkill(s). I suspect the Mafia is afraid LUTHA is win stealing and is playing to eliminate that threat rather than increase the lead on the Werewolves. What is the program you’re referring to? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-observation-and-comments-ie-the-forbidden-thread/776439/292 "2017-03-06T23:50:53Z")
Mafia wants to kill anyone who isn’t them, because any non-Mafia death brings them one step closer to victory. So in that sense, any kill is as good as any other. In particular, they want to kill people who aren’t likely to die in some other way, like the lynch or the Wolves, because if a non-Mafioso can die from some other source instead of from them, that’s a bonus from their point of view. Neither the Wolves nor the Town has yet killed any Cultist, so that makes the Cultists reasonable targets. There’s another reason, too, and it’s relatively straightforward and based on publicly-known information, but it’s maybe not quite as obvious as those two, and I’m spoiled, so I’ll refrain from pointing it out. Actually, come to think of it, two other reasons, but I’m pretty sure the other one is a spoiler. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-observation-and-comments-ie-the-forbidden-thread/776439/293 "2017-03-07T02:20:36Z")
> [@HookerChemical](#): > > I suspect the Mafia is afraid LUTHA is win stealing and is playing to eliminate that threat rather than increase the lead on the Werewolves. > > What is the program you’re referring to? [Here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20005292&postcount=214) Reaction to your flip on the Wolf board: > [@](#): > > Originally posted by **REDACTED** : > > Vanilla Hooker makes me sad. > > (And boy, how awkward is THAT sentence out of context?) There is speculation among the furry folk that your last minute unvote of **Cookies** was a gambit to draw attention to yourself and get NKed as a VT. Comment? ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-observation-and-comments-ie-the-forbidden-thread/776439/294 "2017-03-07T14:45:10Z")
> [@HookerChemical](#): > > All right, you old timers. Which of you veterans of the famous Batman game is behind [this](https://io9.gizmodo.com/one-of-batman-the-animated-series-best-episodes-comes-1792786483)? ToeRoosh and I should be getting royalties! ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-observation-and-comments-ie-the-forbidden-thread/776439/295 "2017-03-07T14:51:32Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > In particular, they want to kill people who aren’t likely to die in some other way, like the lynch or the Wolves, because if a non-Mafioso can die from some other source instead of from them, that’s a bonus from their point of view. Neither the Wolves nor the Town has yet killed any Cultist, so that makes the Cultists reasonable targets. Exactly. Once the third-party are accepted as not a threat to Town, they are simply another brand of Masons from the Scum point of view. It shows why it’s best for Town that Third Parties claim early–and that means Towns should not eliminate players for being Third Parties, because it discourages early claims. ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-observation-and-comments-ie-the-forbidden-thread/776439/296 "2017-03-07T19:47:52Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > There is speculation among the furry folk that your last minute unvote of **Cookies** was a gambit to draw attention to yourself and get NKed as a VT. Comment? It was a consideration. It wasn’t the original intention of the plan, but since nobody else was going along with the unvoting, I didn’t see any harm in the unvote and thought it could be interpreted as a power townie protecting himself. Captain Klutz makes a great point about about claiming and the relative position of the wolves and mafia. Claiming forces wolves and mafia to go after one another. It would be better to claim at night to give wolves a slight advantage. By making a small pool of claimed vanilla, wolves know where to hunt for mafia because that has to be their #1 priority. Since wolves make up part of that fakey-fake vanilla pool, it’s easier hunting for them. Town can pull out a win if they force mafia and wolves to aim for cross kills. My current scum list: Guiri and Johnny Bravo on the same team (probably mafia) Biotop and SNFaulkner on the same team Texcat Thing Fish, I think your candidates of raventhief and bufftabby are viable as well. The rotten thing is that I have almost no case on any of them other than gut feeling. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-observation-and-comments-ie-the-forbidden-thread/776439/297 "2017-03-07T20:04:05Z")
I agree that Biotop is probably Scum. Beyond that, I have no clue. ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-observation-and-comments-ie-the-forbidden-thread/776439/298 "2017-03-07T22:10:12Z")
If Johnny Bravo flips mafia, the only case I will ever make is “Bob is scum for reasons. Vote Bob.” ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-observation-and-comments-ie-the-forbidden-thread/776439/299 "2017-03-07T23:23:59Z")
So people are talking about how maybe the Patsy should claim vanilla, and they’re acting like the reasons for that would be obvious, but I’m not seeing it. Surely it can’t be because the Patsy is a miller, because e isn’t. Not any more, at least, with all of the Detectives dead. Or are people really just not thinking it through that far? ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-observation-and-comments-ie-the-forbidden-thread/776439/300 "2017-03-07T23:40:42Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > So people are talking about how maybe the Patsy should claim vanilla, and they’re acting like the reasons for that would be obvious, but I’m not seeing it. Surely it can’t be because the Patsy is a miller, because e isn’t. Not any more, at least, with all of the Detectives dead. Or are people really just not thinking it through that far? Agreed. Patsy is a one-person masonry. It’s a horrible plan for them to claim vanilla and Lightfoot’s couple posts there come off as scummy as heck. But I appear to be wrong about SNF. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-observation-and-comments-ie-the-forbidden-thread/776439.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-observation-and-comments-ie-the-forbidden-thread/776439.md?page=16)