# Mafia: Simpletown **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 27, 2008, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974 "2008-03-27T21:40:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![WF\_Tomba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d9b06d/32.png) [@WF\_Tomba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WF_Tomba)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/181 "2008-03-30T16:29:20Z")
[QUOTE=ShadowFacts] Really? That was random? Because it reads like an OMGUS vote to me… [/QUOTE] I agree, and so does **Menocchio** ’s vote for **fluiddruid**. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/182 "2008-03-30T16:37:35Z")
[QUOTE=ShadowFacts] This is the kind of “follower” reasoning that I mentioned in an earlier post that I don’t like. Don’t do what the rest of the town thinks is “productive.” Vote for who you think is scummy, and give reasons why you think so. You followed this quote up by changing your vote to **MadtheSwine** , saying he was “primary.” What does that mean? I think you need to explain that vote. On an unrelated note, **zuma** has checked in with RL excuses for his absence. Nothing much to say about it, except that I have played with **zuma** before and he’s probably not bullshitting. Also, he said he would ask to be subbed out if he felt unable to play, so I’m inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt: **Unvote zuma** Also, **Sitnam** has appeared and checked in, and there appear to have been communication issues there. I expect his/her contribution will begin now. So who does that leave for lurkers? Anyone? I just went through and did a “substantive post count,” i.e. I counted everyone’s posts and weeded out what I thought was fluff/non-game-related. (Obviously, this is somewhat subjective, but I tried to be generous with what I considered game-related). Here’s my count: 1. Blaster Master (14) 2. bufftabby (2) 3. IceCreamMan (8) 4. zuma (0) 5. pedescribe (8) 6. WF Tomba (2) 7. Koldanar (10) 8. MindWanderer (2) 9. Queen of Town (3) 10. MadTheSwine (1) 11. Nanook of the North Shore (1) 12. ShadowFacts (4 - including this one) 13. Menocchio (3) 14. peekercpa (12) 15. Sitnam (0) 16. fluiddruid (3) So, besides telling me that I need to participate more, it shows that a few people are dominating the conversation so far. Time for the rest to step up, myself included. With that in mind, and keeping with my “vote for lurkers” plan: \*\*Vote Nanook of the North Shore \*\* [/QUOTE] What I meant was that I thought MTS voting on a fuck up that I made was more scummy than Tomba’s quote that I originally ascribed to ICM. I still don’t like Tomba’s statement, however. That’s why I did what I did (said what I said). If I can possibly be more flippin’ bad at this stuff just keep asking questions and I’ll keep digging. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/183 "2008-03-30T16:43:51Z")
Ok. I didn’t realize that I need to remove the color when quoting someone else. Bangs head against wall while watching UT kick Memphis’ ass. ---
**Author:** ![MindWanderer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@MindWanderer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindWanderer)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/184 "2008-03-30T16:44:14Z")
Well it seems suspicions and finger pointing are all over the point now, and I guess the game is in full gear now. I don’t really get what peekercpa is up to by putting suspicions on so many different people and voting without any substantial explanation. To me it looks a bit manipulative and scummy. So, **FOS peekercpa**. I think that random voting early can get people talking and changes can be made a bit later in the day if something real suspicious comes up. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/185 "2008-03-30T16:44:58Z")
[QUOTE=peekercpa] What I meant was that I thought MTS voting on a fuck up that I made was more scummy than Tomba’s quote that I originally ascribed to ICM. I still don’t like Tomba’s statement, however. That’s why I did what I did (said what I said). If I can possibly be more flippin’ bad at this stuff just keep asking questions and I’ll keep digging. [/QUOTE] Ah, I see. That makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![MindWanderer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@MindWanderer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindWanderer)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/186 "2008-03-30T16:45:40Z")
I missed peekercpa’s post while I was composing mine. When I read through the posts, I don’t really see anything much to damn either Tomba or MTS. ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/187 "2008-03-30T16:50:46Z")
[QUOTE=WF Tomba] I agree, and so does **Menocchio** ’s vote for **fluiddruid**. [/QUOTE] Believe it or not, that’s what the dice said. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/188 "2008-03-30T16:55:43Z")
[QUOTE=MindWanderer] I missed peekercpa’s post while I was composing mine. When I read through the posts, I don’t really see anything much to damn either Tomba or MTS. [/QUOTE] Well, heck I gotta agree that neither has come out and said I’m scum. However, I still think that voting for a reason even it’s not necessarily correct is better than voting randomly. At least that way you can get a potential read on someone without them coming back with “random number made me do it”. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/189 "2008-03-30T16:57:09Z")
[QUOTE=ShadowFacts] (color removed by me) Really? That was random? Because it reads like an OMGUS vote to me… [/QUOTE] Yeah I know, I was just getting into the spirit of the game. I’ve gotten a chance to read the whole thread and for a truly random guess I’m going with: Unvote **Blaster Master** Vote **Queen of Town** ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/190 "2008-03-30T16:57:39Z")
[QUOTE=peekercpa] What I meant was that I thought MTS voting on a fuck up that I made was more scummy than Tomba’s quote that I originally ascribed to ICM. I still don’t like Tomba’s statement, however. That’s why I did what I did (said what I said). [/QUOTE] My fault for not checking upthread for validation of your statement,three pages in I didn’t think it was necessary. I had already conisidered voting for Ice Cream before with his “mistakes” post and your “fuck up” helped make my decision. Strange how you fuck up and then vote for me because I believed what you said. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/191 "2008-03-30T17:00:31Z")
NETA: by not nessarily correct means turns out to not have been necessarily correct. ---
**Author:** ![Euryphaessa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Euryphaessa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euryphaessa)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/192 "2008-03-30T17:30:11Z")
Can someone explain OMGUS? ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/193 "2008-03-30T17:33:18Z")
[QUOTE=Queen of Town] Can someone explain OMGUS? [/QUOTE] OH MY GOD!!! YOU SUCK!! It’s a you vote fer me,I vote fer you thing. So there! ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/194 "2008-03-30T17:43:55Z")
[QUOTE=MadTheSwine] My fault for not checking upthread for validation of your statement,three pages in I didn’t think it was necessary. I had already conisidered voting for Ice Cream before with his “mistakes” post and your “fuck up” helped make my decision. Strange how you fuck up and then vote for me because I believed what you said. [/QUOTE] Skim=scum Vote stands ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/195 "2008-03-30T18:29:12Z")
A noob earlier had mentioned that a list of Mafia acronyms would be helpful. I looked through Wikipedia and some other sites for some basic online terms, but my Googlefu is pathetic this morning and so have come up with jack. Anybody else have any luck? ---
**Author:** ![Euryphaessa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Euryphaessa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euryphaessa)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/196 "2008-03-30T19:15:12Z")
I found these [commonly used abbreviations](http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Commonly_used_abbreviations) in a Mafia wiki, although some may not be in use here and it would obviously omit any SDMB-specific abbreviations, if any. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/197 "2008-03-30T20:01:11Z")
[Oog]Spurs kick Rockets’ ass. Woot Woot. Memphis killing Texas. Grumble Grumble.[/oog] ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/198 "2008-03-30T22:56:46Z")
[QUOTE=WF Tomba] **That’s four posts per Day, right?** [/QUOTE] Yes. Four posts per game day. That is, four (substantive) posts by Thursday afternoon. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/199 "2008-03-30T23:54:39Z")
**unvote zuma** Now that I’ve got an explanation for that (lurking), I need to find something else suspicious. Lessee… **BlaM** stopped posting, but I fail to see how that would be a skum tell… **peekerca** is (very) loud and (slightly) confusing with her many posts and votes, but I can’t see how that would help skum, either… **Shadowfax** seems really heplful…and most of that help is not particularly analytical, padding, perhaps? Still not enough to indict him. If you’ve made it to the end of this rambling post, you’ll see that I’m not voting for anyone yet. People are idiosyncratic, but not particulalry skummy. I got nothing. I’ll look it over (again) and try to find something, but it’s the first day, so it’s understandably difficult. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/200 "2008-03-31T01:39:31Z")
Pretty quiet in here, so I’d like to revisit the role claim discussion that never really got too far off the ground back on page 2. Here’s what I said back there: [QUOTE=me] To follow up on the closed game idea, can we have a discussion about role claims? Ordinarily, role claims are generally believed absent a counter-claim so as to avoid lynching a power role. I assume that is different in a closed game given that we have no idea if there even are any roles besides Simpleton and Scum? [/QUOTE] It seems to me that we should be viewing role claims with more suspicion than we would in an open game. That seems obvious, but what do we do in the event of a claim? Do we lynch anyway or still give the benefit of the doubt? Both are dangerous. As I type this out, I have a feeling the only answer is “depends on the situation” or “we’ll have to evaluate each claim individually when it happens.” Not very satisfying. Any other thoughts? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974.md?page=11)