# Mafia: Simpletown **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 27, 2008, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974 "2008-03-27T21:40:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/681 "2008-04-10T20:00:22Z")
[QUOTE=WF Tomba] OK, I’ve got what I hope is a solid contribution now. Rather than try to evaluate the case against each player, which would have taken forever, I decided to analyze Day 1 voting patterns with an eye to how each vote and unvote _helped_ and _hurt_ other players. The particular formula I used I may reveal later. The results of my analysis suggest that four players operated as a team on Day 1 to shift the voting away from **fluiddruid** and onto **Menocchio** : **fluiddruid** **peekercpa** **Nanook of the North Shore** **zuma** (or if not him then **MadTheSwine** ) I suspect all our Mafia are in this list. In light of this, I would like to shift my vote to a player whose scumminess I am more sure of, but at this point all I would be doing is possibly saving **MadTheSwine** and hanging **pedescribe** , of whom I have no suspicions. So I’ll leave my vote where it is. [/QUOTE] I was in the middle of responding to this when I saw Mad’s claim on preview. I don’t think I have time to fully go into now, since the day ends in like a minute, so I’ll just say that your logic is flawed as hell. My first post Tomorrow will go over it in more detail. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/682 "2008-04-10T20:00:26Z")
Well, sorry for giving you such a hard time about Detective strategy, dude. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/683 "2008-04-10T20:00:24Z")
MTS, there is no town reason to claim so late. A claim two, three hours ahead, even ONE hour ahead of time will allow us to reason our way to a new candidate. A late-claim like this will end with a suprise lynch and an “Oops, sorry”. It is very scummy to prevent people from reasoning, wether by time or by attacks, and you’ve done both. My vote stands. ---
**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/684 "2008-04-10T20:01:57Z")
[QUOTE=MadTheSwine] Well I’m dead anyway,guess it don’t really matter. Just hoping pedescribe is scum so i don’t go out in complete failure. [/QUOTE] Not necessarily dead. I THINK, but am not sure, that I forced a tie at least. ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/685 "2008-04-10T20:03:39Z")
[QUOTE=pedescribe] MTS, there is no town reason to claim so late. A claim two, three hours ahead, even ONE hour ahead of time will allow us to reason our way to a new candidate. A late-claim like this will end with a suprise lynch and an “Oops, sorry”. It is very scummy to prevent people from reasoning, wether by time or by attacks, and you’ve done both. My vote stands. [/QUOTE] Trying not to claim to leave us wide open was the reason. Really??? Your vote stands???Golly. ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/686 "2008-04-10T20:04:48Z")
[QUOTE=Nanook of the North Shore] Not necessarily dead. I THINK, but am not sure, that I forced a tie at least. [/QUOTE] I meant dead tonight if not today. ---
**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/687 "2008-04-10T20:06:40Z")
[QUOTE=MadTheSwine] I meant dead tonight if not today. [/QUOTE] Oh almost certainly. Unless you’re lying of course, in which case we get to play the lovely home game version of WIFOM. ---
**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/688 "2008-04-10T20:09:39Z")
Sach needs to get in here already, I’m dying from the suspense. I’m sitting here at work and hitting refresh every minute and it’s killing me. ---
**Author:** ![Ice\_Cream\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ice\_Cream\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Cream_Man)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/689 "2008-04-10T20:10:12Z")
Yeah, I just got home and I’m refreshing every 20 seconds! ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/690 "2008-04-10T20:21:51Z")
Just have to say… **Mad** , I saw that coming, I just wish you had done it earlier in the Day… ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/691 "2008-04-10T20:25:12Z")
Wow, so…what happens when there is a tie in this game? (The Day did end with a tie right?) ---
**Author:** ![Ice\_Cream\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ice\_Cream\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Cream_Man)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/692 "2008-04-10T20:26:00Z")
[QUOTE=NAF1138] Wow, so…what happens when there is a tie in this game? (The Day did end with a tie right?) [/QUOTE] Random lynch ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/693 "2008-04-10T20:27:01Z")
[QUOTE=Ice Cream Man] Random lynch [/QUOTE] More fully: [QUOTE=sachertorte] Ties will be resolved by random lynch of the tied vote-getters. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/694 "2008-04-10T20:28:41Z")
Grrr. From the Rules: > [@](#): > > Ties are bad. Don’t do them. I hate ties because it hinges the outcome on a random event. This makes me sad, so I will make you suffer and wait. (No actually I had a dentist appointment that took for freaking forever… And a tie… Now I have to recount all the votes to make sure there isn’t a mistake. So hold on a bit longer: preliminary result: 1 - Blaster Master (peekercpa) 5 - pedescribe (NAF1138, Ice Cream Man, fluiddruid, MadTheSwine, Nanook of the North Shore) 5 - MadTheSwine (WF Tomba, Sitnam, ShadowFacts, bufftabby, pedescribe) 2 - fluiddruid (Blaster Master, Mind Wanderer) More soon. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/695 "2008-04-10T20:47:10Z")
I should have trusted my anal-retentiveness. The preliminary result is correct. Final Day Two vote count: 1 - Blaster Master (peekercpa) 5 - pedescribe (NAF1138, Ice Cream Man, fluiddruid, MadTheSwine, Nanook of the North Shore) 5 - MadTheSwine (WF Tomba, Sitnam, ShadowFacts, bufftabby, pedescribe) 2 - fluiddruid (Blaster Master, Mind Wanderer) A flip of a coin yields the result that **MadTheSwine** must die. **pedescribe** escapes death, for now (though if he doesn’t get a full account soon, there might be hell to pay when his account expires). MadTheSwine, the Lead Assassin is dead. ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/696 "2008-04-10T20:50:35Z")
Wow… I guess that explains that. Looks like I have some re-evaluating to do. ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/697 "2008-04-10T20:50:45Z")
Darn ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/698 "2008-04-10T20:51:27Z")
1. Blaster Master 2. bufftabby 3. IceCreamMan 4. zuma 5. pedescribe 6. WF Tomba 7. Koldanar NAF1138 8. MindWanderer 9. [del]Queen of Town[/del] Doctor 10. [del]MadTheSwine[/del] Lead Assassin 11. Nanook of the North Shore 12. ShadowFacts 13. [del]Menocchio[/del] Simpleton 14. peekercpa 15. Sitnam 16. fluiddruid Menocchio, Simpleton, lynched Day One Queen of Town, Doctor, killed Night One MadTheSwine, Lead Assassin, lynched Day Two ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/699 "2008-04-10T20:58:21Z")
Well I feel vindicated. ---
**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/700 "2008-04-10T20:59:07Z")
Guess I should have stuck with my intial instinct then. Glad the dice role went our way. Go town! What’s a lead assassin? Is that just a fancy name for scum? Maybe a Godfather type? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974.md?page=34) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974.md?page=36)