# Mafia: Simpletown

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 27, 2008, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974 "2008-03-27T21:40:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 46

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/901 "2008-04-17T19:56:38Z")

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I’m going to ask that in a seperate post, since I’m really curious. Is it okay to vote for someone you think is town for utilitarian purposes? Is it frowned upon? How heavily?

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/902 "2008-04-17T19:57:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Blaster Master]  
My indictment of you in that post is purely situational. To be perfectly honest, my gut read on you so far is rather sporadic and relatively neutral, but the complete wishy-washiness on **fluiddruid** and your virtual certainty that I’m town has me concerned, because there’s the distinct possibility that it’s motivated by the actual knowledge that we’re both town.

Also, FWIW, I DO have a very scummy read on **Nanook** , but I was unable to substantiate it in any concrete way until I saw that post. The motivation there seems VERY heavily to favor fore-knowledge that he knows fluiddruid isn’t scum. So he either knows because he’s scum, or he knows because he’s possibly the detective.  
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I am certain you are town because I think you play very differently when you are town than when you are scum. Fluid, I have no idea if she is scum. She hasn’t done anything to ping me so I am not going to vote for her. The only reason I am talking about her at all is because of the way her bandwagon is progressing. It would be the same no matter who was on the wagon.

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/903 "2008-04-17T20:00:46Z")

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[QUOTE=fluiddruid]  
By “she” do you mean me? I’ll assume so.

I’ll argue that apparently sureness is not a scum tell until the person’s dead (look at Shadow Facts about me, for example) so take this with a grain of salt, Townies. But, the only person I think qualifies is pedescribe. He seems to know I am town. But he’s pretty obvious about it. Newbies are harder to read, though - he may have acted based on the assumption that he would get flack for voting for me and wanted to soften the blow (as he’s observed the same thing happen for me and others that voted for **Menocchio** ).

However, and perhaps it’s confirmation bias talking, I’m a little suspicious about this question. After all, you’re the direct opposite - you went after me most viciously among everyone. I don’t want to plant the seed that this means you must be town. I still think you are very likely to be scum, and as such I am very un-surprised to see you going after NAF1138. He’s exactly who makes sense to target next, if he is indeed town: experienced, analytical, and a relatively easy target to drum up charges against because he’s fallen outside the group on the matter of my lynching. To my ears, it sounds like you’re asking the question because you want me to answer “NAF1138”. But I won’t. I think he’s absolutely right that the town is using bad methodology to lynch and that today was a mistake. I have no special information about him or anyone else, but I just don’t see him as scum by what’s been said so far. See my long post for my thoughts about it.  
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As I just said, I think **NAF** ’s suredness is potentially telling, but I’ll have to take a deeper look at it; as I said, my tell on him is fairly neutral. What I really wanted you to weigh in on was my reasoning with regard to the likes of **Nanook** , **Mind Wander** , and **WF Tomba**. PRH would lead me to believe that at least one between **NAF** and **Nanook** is scum, and at least one between **Mind Wander** and **WF Tomba** is probably scum as well.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/904 "2008-04-17T20:01:07Z")

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[QUOTE=fluiddruid]  
[colorred]unvote Blaster Master[/color]  
[colorblue]vote fluiddruid[/color]

I don’t suspect Blaster Master any less. I simply want to be sure, we’ve had some unvotes and we only have 11 minutes to go.  
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color removed

WTF?

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/905 "2008-04-17T20:02:39Z")

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Damnit, I ran out of time… hopefully, I’ll get to comment on it tomorrow, if it’s still relevant.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/906 "2008-04-17T20:04:41Z")

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After dispatching of **MadTheSwine** , the Lead Assassin, the Town cheered its success and quickly turned against **fluiddruid** , who surely must also be in league with the Assassins. Why else would fluiddruid have spent the Day arguing against MadTheSwine, only to suddenly switch her vote? She was clearly protecting the Lead Assassin!

‘But scum would be crazy to do that,’ some parts of the Town cried, including the accused herself. The argument that fluiddruid is merely a naive townie was present but not nearly as forceful as the chorus against her. Unfortunately for fluiddruid, none of the arguments for who else might be threatening the town met any great traction. In the end, fluiddruid realized that her status needed to be known. Unfortunately for the Town, fluiddruid, a Simpleton, is dead.

1 - bufftabby (pedescribe)  
1 - zuma (NAF1138)  
2 - pedescribe (RyJae, peekercpa)  
1 - Mind Wanderer (Nanook of the North Shore)  
1 - Nanook of the North Shore (Blaster Master)  
5 - fluiddruid (ShadowFacts, Mind Wanderer, WF Tomba, bufftabby, fluiddruid)

**zuma** has failed to meet the minimum post requirements for the game and will be substituted. **RoOsh** will take the place of zuma.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/907 "2008-04-17T20:06:02Z")

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1. Blaster Master
2. bufftabby
3. IceCreamMan Ryjae
4. zuma RoOsh
5. pedescribe
6. WF Tomba
7. Koldanar NAF1138
8. MindWanderer
9. [del]Queen of Town[/del] Doctor
10. [del]MadTheSwine[/del] Lead Assassin
11. Nanook of the North Shore
12. ShadowFacts
13. [del]Menocchio[/del] Simpleton
14. peekercpa
15. [del]Sitnam[/del] Simpleton
16. [del]fluiddruid[/del] Simpleton

Menocchio, Simpleton, lynched Day One  
Queen of Town, Doctor, killed Night One  
MadTheSwine, Lead Assassin, lynched Day Two  
Sitnam, Simpleton, killed Night Two  
fluiddruid, Simpleton, lynched Day Three

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/908 "2008-04-17T20:06:50Z")

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☹☹☹☹☹  
bye-bye, fluiddruid.

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/909 "2008-04-17T20:07:40Z")

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Told ya’ll so. 😉 Go town and have a fun game, everyone!

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/910 "2008-04-17T20:20:59Z")

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Hey, welcome to RoOsh. Now we can get some pages on this game.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/911 "2008-04-17T20:22:20Z")

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[QUOTE=fluiddruid]  
Told ya’ll so. 😉 Go town and have a fun game, everyone!  
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Sorry, everyone. This is on me - I blew it, in more ways than one. ☹

FUCK!!

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/912 "2008-04-17T20:26:11Z")

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[QUOTE=ShadowFacts]  
Sorry, everyone. This is on me - I blew it, in more ways than one. ☹

FUCK!!  
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Meh, you’re fine. Whatchoo drinken? I’ll buy you one.

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/913 "2008-04-17T20:34:43Z")

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[QUOTE=sachertorte]  
**zuma** has failed to meet the minimum post requirements for the game and will be substituted. **RoOsh** will take the place of zuma.  
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NOOO! Now I’ll have to do twice as much reading! :mad:

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/914 "2008-04-17T20:35:30Z")

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[QUOTE=NAF1138]  
Meh, you’re fine. Whatchoo drinken? I’ll buy you one.  
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I believe nothing less than a Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster will do, thanks.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/915 "2008-04-17T20:42:09Z")

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[QUOTE=ShadowFacts]  
I believe nothing less than a Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster will do, thanks.  
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Ah, so you want your head bashed in by a leamon wrapped around a large gold brick do you? Sounds fun, I think I’ll join you.

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**Author:** ![WF\_Tomba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d9b06d/32.png) [@WF\_Tomba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WF_Tomba)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/916 "2008-04-17T21:16:47Z")

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Well, my theory’s shot to hell.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/917 "2008-04-17T21:51:57Z")

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[QUOTE=WF Tomba]  
Well, my theory’s shot to hell.  
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Well it worked on 1 out of 4, whereas if you had just randomly selected 4 then the odds of having a scum in that group would be about 1 out of 4. 🙂

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**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/918 "2008-04-17T22:19:59Z")

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Damn, I bet I’m kicked out of the Game Room now, huh, fluiddruid? 😉

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**Author:** ![dotchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@dotchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dotchan)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/919 "2008-04-18T02:09:52Z")

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Welcome to your first SDMB Mafia game, Roosh.

I am laughing at the rest you guys from the Peanut Gallery. 😃

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-simpletown/442974/920 "2008-04-18T02:32:51Z")

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[QUOTE=dotchan]  
Welcome to your first SDMB Mafia game, Roosh.

I am laughing at the rest you guys from the Peanut Gallery. 😃  
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Oh, this looks to be fun. Tequilla shots for me and **RoOsh** while in the background **bufftabby** karaoke’s some air supply songs (only if **Hal Briston** will let us borrow his albums).

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