# Mafia--T2: Behind the Scenes

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 2, 2008, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699 "2008-09-02T17:07:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 4

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/61 "2008-09-04T18:45:13Z")

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> [@sachertorte](#):
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> Yeah, you pretty much have to. Unless you want a mason group of FIVE! 🆒

Hey, new board feature! You get to see who PMs go to.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/62 "2008-09-04T18:45:30Z")

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> [@sachertorte](#):
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> Yeah, you pretty much have to. Unless you want a mason group of FIVE! 🆒

A mason group of five! Go town. If we lose this one we’d kind of suck large.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/63 "2008-09-04T18:46:37Z")

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> [@sachertorte](#):
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> Yeah, you pretty much have to. Unless you want a mason group of FIVE! 🆒

Psst! I need confirmation on the secret board! 😃

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/64 "2008-09-04T18:47:15Z")

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Yeah, I’m going to resend the PMs. It’s a good thing this is an open game, or I’d—well, I don’t know what I’d do. I’m changing the password to the scum site, so that’s taken care of…I think I can restart this without significant damage.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/65 "2008-09-04T18:55:57Z")

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But later tonight. The scumboard site is crashing right now. Should be done before 6:00 EST, though.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/66 "2008-09-04T18:56:16Z")

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Damn, I was looking forward to being town again. Well, maybe I’ll get a terminator this time.

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/67 "2008-09-04T19:14:12Z")

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Oh, yeah, look at that! I didn’t even notice the recipient list the first time.

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/68 "2008-09-04T19:17:50Z")

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I knew it was too good to be true, I guess I get to be vanilla as usual.

Hey, at least you screwed up now, instead of 5 Days into the game.

That would be even more fun. 😃

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/69 "2008-09-04T19:39:48Z")

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Well, so much for that little nibblet of WIFOM. (I wasn’t assigned Sarah Connor, but I was a townie), and I’ll still be imagining Lena Heady…

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**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/70 "2008-09-04T20:19:13Z")

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Good thing, too. Although I don’t know much about **Fish** , I’m pretty confident the team as was would have destroyed the scum. 😃

Also, since you spelled Scinetist [sic] wrong in the mass message, I was going to try to use that to verify three of us (I didn’t notice that the msg was sent to 5 people, but I did notice that scinetist [sic] was spelled wrong… what gives?!).

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/71 "2008-09-04T20:36:57Z")

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> [@Santo\_Rugger](#):
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> Good thing, too. Although I don’t know much about **Fish** , I’m pretty confident the team as was would have destroyed the scum. 😃
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> Also, since you spelled Scinetist [sic] wrong in the mass message, I was going to try to use that to verify three of us (I didn’t notice that the msg was sent to 5 people, but I did notice that scinetist [sic] was spelled wrong… what gives?!).

Thank you, Sach, for being honest.

New PMs about to be sent.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/72 "2008-09-04T20:42:39Z")

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I’m having an issue where the board is not giving me access to PMs. Not sure if it’s because I’m not paid, or what. Are you having trouble sending it to me?

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/73 "2008-09-04T20:51:41Z")

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There are a few quirks in a few roles that I didn’t mention. I’m still not mentioning them. You may have access to another role’s quirk, but the effect on the game should be near-nil. Also, some of you may get the same role as last time. Just throwing that out there.

> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> I’m having an issue where the board is not giving me access to PMs. Not sure if it’s because I’m not paid, or what. Are you having trouble sending it to me?

You don’t have an e-mail address listed, so I can’t contact you.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/74 "2008-09-04T20:56:55Z")

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Rut Roh.

I think we will be treading into dangerous waters. The existence of quirks will make the reset problematic.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/75 "2008-09-04T21:06:21Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> Thank you, Sach, for being honest.
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> New PMs about to be sent.

Well that’s the most enjoyable thing about this group. You can lie, cheat and generally just behave poorly and be embraced. But cheat and you will be a pariah.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/76 "2008-09-04T21:18:19Z")

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Confirming.

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/77 "2008-09-04T21:19:09Z")

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Post-reset confirmed.

If the game is already broken for some players, we could just stay in a holding pattern until those players are replaced?

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/78 "2008-09-04T21:20:17Z")

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Reset-confirmed

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**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/79 "2008-09-04T21:20:28Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> Thank you, Sach, for being honest.
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> New PMs about to be sent.

😕 I wasn’t being dishonest? Vanilla handshakes is one of the very first things I saw used in this game. That’s why a lot of mods either send different PMs to everybody, or post the Vanilla PM to the group. My proposed suggestion would have been in no way dishonest; I didn’t notice that there were multiple recipients, because I read it via email, and never opened the one on the Dope until **sach** pointed that out.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/80 "2008-09-04T21:20:38Z")

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All role PMs sent (again). Game will start Friday at noon regardless. First day ends next Friday at noon, and then goes F-S, M-F as usual.

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