# Mafia--T2: Behind the Scenes **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 2, 2008, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699 "2008-09-02T17:07:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/861 "2008-09-19T01:17:09Z")
NETA: Never mind, **Squidio** , the point is moot for me. I thought that I was on to something but I should have checked to see whether **Total Lost** was one of our confirmed or not. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/862 "2008-09-19T01:19:51Z")
> [@Santo\_Rugger](#): > > Oredigger’s mass claim idea makes sense for a Jester, but, OTOH, he’s quite fond of the idea in general. Well, normally I’m a lynch the lurker guy. I’ve only played three games and this is the first time I’ve agreed with a mass claim. Funny thing though, this started off as your idea and I’m kinda wondering why your giving me credit. Unless the vig dies I dontsee this as a good plan for the joker because the claimants won’t get lynched they’ll get vigged. I’ll dig back and find santo’s idea if I need to but its hard on my phone and I don’t wanna. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/863 "2008-09-19T01:31:53Z")
No. No role info will be revealed in the event of a modkill. ---
**Author:** ![Almost\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@Almost\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Almost_Human)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/864 "2008-09-19T01:34:21Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > Well, normally I’m a lynch the lurker guy. I’ve only played three games and this is the first time I’ve agreed with a mass claim. Funny thing though, this started off as your idea and I’m kinda wondering why your giving me credit. Unless the vig dies I dontsee this as a good plan for the joker because the claimants won’t get lynched they’ll get vigged. > > I’ll dig back and find santo’s idea if I need to but its hard on my phone and I don’t wanna. Dude you suggested the mass claim on Day 1 in post 199 😕 ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/865 "2008-09-19T01:48:51Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > For now, my votes will be: > > **1. Cookies > 2. Shadow Facts > 3. Rysto** > > Cookies for placing her #1 vote on **NAF** , which she says is because she’s voting for who is scummiest but she admits that she knows that **NAF** bandwagon is going nowhere. Feels like a player who’s trying not be to accountable for her votes. > > Shadow for his really bizarre PIS accusation against **Almost Human** Day 1 > > Myself as a placeholder. > > In the meantime, I have a question for **Squidio** : When you use your power to ask a player a question, can they lie? If you don’t know the answer ask **pedescribe** , please. My #1 is not on NAF. By all means, hold me accountable for my votes. I’ll even remind you what they have been in the past every time I put a new one down just to help y’all out in that regard. FOS on all of you who are trying to build a case out of nothing but skimming. Some of you I’m sure are scum. I’m an easy target for a manipulative smear campaign right now, it would seem and some of you are probably just barking up the wrong tree. If the consensus is not to lynch NAF because he might be the jester, how does that prevent me from voting for him? If we get to the end of the Day and he’s in the top of the vote counts, then you can question my vote. Until then, I’m not hurting anybody and I’m voting my suspicions. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/866 "2008-09-19T01:59:08Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > Do you want to lynch the Jester? > > I don’t get this vote. You really think NAF is the scummiest player here because he ‘overreacted’ to a vote for an uncountered pro-Town claimant? This doesn’t smell right to me. Not because you skimmed and made a mistake in voting: I do that all the time. But your reaction isn’t the _mea culpa_ that’s appropriate, but instead going on the attack. > \*\* > Vote Reorder: > > 1. Cookies > 2. Flyfisheron > 3. NBC\*\* One of the scummiest players, which isn’t saying much on Day 2 that has been primarily devoted to a mass claim, but it is what I’ve got at the moment. And yes, I do want to lynch the Jester, eventually. I do not know if NAF is the Jester. There is no guarantee that either NAF or Ore is the Jester, though that is certainly a possibility. ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/867 "2008-09-19T02:20:17Z")
> [@Almost\_Human](#): > > Btw **Cookies** I’m leaving my third vote on you unless anything new happens as it’s only the third vote. If it’d been higher I’d have probably moved you down but I doubt I’d have taken you off completely. > > Skimming is bad!😛 Well… so far I haven’t received my voting PM… I hope it’ll arrive soon. (and/or that I won’t be booted from the game):eek: ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/868 "2008-09-19T02:31:15Z")
> [@Almost\_Human](#): > > Dude you suggested the mass claim on Day 1 in post 199 😕 So I actually went back and rechecked Day 1. I screwed up. I did propose the mass claim. I misremembered santo and my back and forth sorry for any smudge it was wrong. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/869 "2008-09-19T02:37:26Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > No. No role info will be revealed in the event of a modkill. Well this cinches it for me. I don’t like lurkers and a Mod Kill with no info bites really bad. As **OD** likes to support mass claims I am a lynch the non poster kind of guy. Also, I don’t like being called dipshit but, oh crud, I looked in the mirror and **Ceviche Potential** could be correct. **NBC** has been all over the place. As those of you that have played with me in the past you know I like a slow and steady pace. Without further adieu. **1. Vote Flyfisheron (sp?] 2. Vote NBC 3. Vote Story** The last is to remain true to my roots of this game. And I’ll be back to you **Squiddy**. As said before: I am rubber and you are glue. Whatever you say bounces off me and sticks on you. Nanner, nanner, nanner. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/870 "2008-09-19T02:45:56Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > **Unvote: [del]dipshit[/del]peekerpa** \ And I didn’t want to respond to this outrage until I had a cahnce to get a little bit more caught up but … You know that if you trimmed your toe nails you wouldn’t have so many holes in your socks. Booyah. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/871 "2008-09-19T03:33:50Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > \ > > And I didn’t want to respond to this outrage until I had a cahnce to get a little bit more caught up but … > > You know that if you trimmed your toe nails you wouldn’t have so many holes in your socks. > > Booyah. And here I was, figuring it was the family of mice living in my shoes. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/872 "2008-09-19T04:14:10Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > So I actually went back and rechecked Day 1. I screwed up. I did propose the mass claim. I misremembered santo and my back and forth sorry for any smudge it was wrong. Fuckin’ aye you were wrong. [oog]But I’m in Farmington; if you’re back yet, shoot me a msg.[/oog] ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/873 "2008-09-19T04:16:18Z")
WiFoM of the flippin’ century. Is NBC being shady because he wants to be lynched? Is Cookies voting for power roles because she wants to be lynched? Is Flyfisheron not participating because he wants to be lynched. Son of a bitch. I’m pretty sure my vote will be split amongst those three, but you guys aren’t leaving me any time to drink on my 4 day vacation. Lame. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/874 "2008-09-19T04:40:52Z")
I don’t even warrant a token “Hmmm…not sure if I like how quickly the Cookie wagon came out of nowhere”? How about one of you scummies just humor me and say it. It might even get you some cred if they lynch me. ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/875 "2008-09-19T05:15:59Z")
Hmmm…not sure if I like how quickly the Cookie wagon came out of nowhere. Maybe it’s because she’s voting (or has voted, the screen is blurry) for a claimed power role whom we don’t want to lynch? Just maybe? **1. Vote Flyfisheron 2. Vote Cookies. 3. Vote NBC.** They may well all be scum, but I’m voting in opposite order of my suspicion because of the WiFoM I mentioned in my last post. Night. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/876 "2008-09-19T05:27:51Z")
Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night. 😛 There’s no arguing with a lynch mob and there’s really no point as I’m just vanilla anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/877 "2008-09-19T07:37:56Z")
1. Pollux Oil 2. Diggit 3. Cookies Reason: I chose someone being vanilla. Thinking I would vote for those I feel contributes the least to the game. If FlyF don’t show up soon - I will reconsider… ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/878 "2008-09-19T09:10:35Z")
Good to see some votes down, but we are still missing a few. Re-reading back over the last few hours is interesting. **Santo Rugger** - I still think you are scum, even if no-one else does although it looks like a few more possible candidates have come forward. **NBC** - I have not been opposed to the role claim, I just wanted to make sure that if we did go through with it, it was at least a well thought out idea with as much covered as possible. As to it being a good thing, I will wait and see. Very smudgy indeed. **Cookies** - So was voting for an uncontested power role a slip or not? How about voting for someone who is a claimed power role even if it is contested? There is being guilty of skimming and then there is missing most of toDay with peole claiming? Saying that it doesn’t matter, I’m vanilla and we have plenty is just WIFOM. So much WIFOM, so little time. Votes: **1. Santo Rugger 2. NBC 3. Cookies** ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/879 "2008-09-19T10:52:57Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > Dusk 1 Vote Count > Zsofia: 1. NBC, 2. peeker, 3. Thing Fish > Total Lost: 1. Zsofia, 2. peeker 3. DiggitCamera > Almost Human: 1. DiggitCamera, 2. Flyfisheron, 3. Total Lost > Rysto: 1. Zsofia, 2. NBC, 3. CatInASuit > Sach: 1. NAF, 2. Mhaye, 3. Squidio > Squidio: 1. Santo Rugger, 2. NAF, 3. CatInASuit > Mhaye: 1. NBC, 2. peeker, 3. Zsofia > Blaster Master: 1. peeker, 2. Digger 3. Mhaye > peeker: 1. Sach, 2. Rysto, 3. Storyteller > > Thing Fish: 1. Zsofia, 2. Santo Rugger, 3. NBC Thank you for that! I though it was really helpful 🙂 I can’t find where Diggit unvoted right now - but I have him voting for AH, NBC and CAT in my notes - am I just messing up again? Did Diggit vote on Day 1 or not??? ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/880 "2008-09-19T11:01:55Z")
In post 850 I asked this. > [@MHaye](#): > > If a player gets modkilled, do we learn their alignment?\*\* (Bleached to avoid confusion). The response. > [@pedescribe](#): > > No. No role info will be revealed in the event of a modkill. This means we need to consider lynching Flyfisheron as a matter of urgency, simply to get his role information and eliminate the uncertainty surrounding it. As things stand (by my count) NBC has 26 points, DarkCookies 21 and Flyfisheron 15. **Unvote all**. Vote **1. Flyfisheron 2. CatInaSuit 3. Almost Human** This does not mean I’m less suspicious of NBC, or DarkCookies - I’m simply closing the gap as best I can. I’m not at all suspicious of Almost Human; she’s simply a filler vote. (No-one’s voted for her Today, which was the main reason for picking her. CIAS? He’s one of those vanillas with a single twitch against him. He’ll do given I don’t want to vote for the people in the lead. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699.md?page=43) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699.md?page=45)