# Mafia--T2: Behind the Scenes **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 2, 2008, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699 "2008-09-02T17:07:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 45
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/881 "2008-09-19T11:07:03Z")
**UNVOTE** \*\* VOTE: 1. FlyF 2. Pollux Oil 3. Diggit \*\* I’m off for the weekend 😃 - and can’t wait anymore to see if FlyF shows up. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/882 "2008-09-19T11:09:39Z")
> [@Total\_Lost](#): > > Thank you for that! I though it was really helpful 🙂 > > I can’t find where Diggit unvoted right now - but I have him voting for AH, NBC and CAT in my notes - am I just messing up again? > > Did Diggit vote on Day 1 or not??? I think you may be messing up. Diggit hasn’t voted today, because his vote has been bought and no-one’s told him where to place it. My records show he did vote yesterday; for Almost Human, NBC and CatInaSuit. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/883 "2008-09-19T11:13:07Z")
> [@MHaye](#): > > I think you may be messing up. > > Diggit hasn’t voted today, because his vote has been bought and no-one’s told him where to place it. My records show he did vote yesterday; for Almost Human, NBC and CatInaSuit. _lol_ I know I’m a mess - but I was asking about Day 1 (not today) From Rystos post I got the impression, he didn’t vote on Day 1… ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/884 "2008-09-19T11:15:37Z")
> [@Total\_Lost](#): > > _lol_ I know I’m a mess - but I was asking about Day 1 (not today) > > From Rystos post I got the impression, he didn’t vote on Day 1… Ah sorry :o My records agree with yours. His vote was in 365, anad I don’t remember an unvote. ---
**Author:** ![Almost\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@Almost\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Almost_Human)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/885 "2008-09-19T11:20:40Z")
> [@MHaye](#): > > In post 850 I asked this.(Bleached to avoid confusion). > > The response.This means we need to consider lynching Flyfisheron as a matter of urgency, simply to get his role information and eliminate the uncertainty surrounding it. > > As things stand (by my count) NBC has 26 points, DarkCookies 21 and Flyfisheron 15. (snipped) Bugger - you’re right though it’s really annoying especially as he may well be the suicidal vig but we’ll never know for sure unless we lynch him: **unvote all** **1 Vote Flyfisheron** **2 Vote Shadow FActs** **3 Vote Pollux** Last 2 are simply because they don’t have loads of votes against them. I’ve sent Pede an email to rechange Diggit’s vote as well to the same as this one. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/886 "2008-09-19T11:29:54Z")
> [@Almost\_Human](#): > > Bugger - you’re right though it’s really annoying especially as he may well be the suicidal vig but we’ll never know for sure unless we lynch him: Is it against the rules if I was to PM him on Facebook?? ---
**Author:** ![Almost\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@Almost\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Almost_Human)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/887 "2008-09-19T11:35:44Z")
> [@Total\_Lost](#): > > Is it against the rules if I was to PM him on Facebook?? Dunno - I wouldn’t do it without checking though. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/888 "2008-09-19T12:23:12Z")
> [@Almost\_Human](#): > > Dunno - I wouldn’t do it without checking though. I can’t PM our MOD: “pedescribe has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.” And this is the last 5 min. at the PC before a weekend-trip. So I wouldn’t be doing anything om FB… ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/889 "2008-09-19T12:30:48Z")
Sorry for my absence; I’ve been trying to get the off-board game up and running and it’s occupied my Mafia time for a day or so. Anyway, I think the question of **flyfisheron** is by far the most urgent. I can think of several possibilities: 1. He’s the Suicidal Vig and knows he will die toNight, and thus has just given up on the game. 2. He’s just a vanilla Townie, and the Suicidal Vig is hidden among the vanilla claimants. 3. He’s the Jester. He’s lurking in the hopes that we will lynch him to avoid a modkill, but will show up and make a post and a vote at the deadline if we don’t. 4. Worst possibility of all: he’s actually a pro-Town power role, and one of the current claimants is lying scum. A modkill of **flyfisheron** screws us royally, in such a case, because we will be unable to treat _any_ of our currently claimed power roles as confirmed. And that would defeat the whole purpose of the mass claim. So my primary vote is probably going to be **flyfisheron** , because the uncertainty that a modkill will generate will royally screw us no matter what he is. It absolutely SUCKS if he is Town, because it’s a complete waste of a mislynch and gets the scum right back into the game, but any other alternative is a poor one. I certainly don’t think we should lynch **NAF** , nor probably **Cookies** toDay. **NAF** in particular. When I was a little kid, my dad and I used to play Old Maid, and he would stick a card up from the deck, begging me to take it. Of course I assumed he’d never be that brazen, and I always took the card, and it was always the damned Old Maid. I think **NAF** is the card sticking up, begging us to take it. **Cookies,** I dunno. She’s put herself out there, which makes me worry that maybe the card sticking up is the three of hearts and the card right _next_ to it is the Old Maid, you know? Successfully getting a recruit is the best chance the scum have to win this game right now, so having two of them sacrifice themselves in the name of getting a recruit is absolutely not beyond the realm of possibility. I’ll reread and come up with other votes ASAP. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/890 "2008-09-19T12:38:19Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > 1. Worst possibility of all: he’s actually a pro-Town power role, and one of the current claimants is lying scum. A modkill of **flyfisheron** screws us royally, in such a case, because we will be unable to treat _any_ of our currently claimed power roles as confirmed. And that would defeat the whole purpose of the mass claim. This point is important. I regard the chance that it is correct as fairly low. However, the consequences of this turning out to be the case is that the Town has basically been fitted with concrete boots and the scum can push us into the water almost at leisure. This is why I put on my No. 2 hat and urge people to vote Flyfisheron. We want … information. ---
**Author:** ![Almost\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@Almost\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Almost_Human)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/891 "2008-09-19T12:44:10Z")
> [@MHaye](#): > > This point is important. > > I regard the chance that it is correct as fairly low. However, the consequences of this turning out to be the case is that the Town has basically been fitted with concrete boots and the scum can push us into the water almost at leisure. > > This is why I put on my No. 2 hat and urge people to vote Flyfisheron. We want … information. I am not a number, I am a free man! Sorry couldn’t resist and now I’ve probably further convinced everyone I’m a he and not a she but I couldn’t possibly misquote 😃 ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/892 "2008-09-19T12:46:28Z")
> [@Almost\_Human](#): > > I am not a number, I am a free man! > > Sorry couldn’t resist and now I’ve probably further convinced everyone I’m a he and not a she but I couldn’t possibly misquote 😃 I _thought_ you’d know it. 😉 The Village. What a superb setting for a Mafia game. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/893 "2008-09-19T12:48:10Z")
> [@MHaye](#): > > I _thought_ you’d know it. 😉 > > The Village. What a superb setting for a Mafia game. Wow. That would be freaking _awesome_. ---
**Author:** ![Almost\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@Almost\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Almost_Human)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/894 "2008-09-19T12:50:05Z")
> [@MHaye](#): > > I _thought_ you’d know it. 😉 > > The Village. What a superb setting for a Mafia game. I’m sure there’s some oblique reference to my advanced age there but I choose to ignore it because as Story said that setting would be freaking awesome lol ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/895 "2008-09-19T14:01:09Z")
Crap. This is guaranteed to be a mislynch, but we need the information. **Unvote** **1. Flyfisheron 2. Cookies 3. Shadow** ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/896 "2008-09-19T14:37:43Z")
Current Non Voters: **Storyteller** - should be placing votes shortly **Flyfisheron** - not been seen for a while **Shadowfacts** - has been online toDay but not voted, at least I cannot see it anywhere. **DiggitCamara** is waiting for his votes We have about 90 mins left, I believe. It looks like we could lose one unclaimed and 1 vanilla claimant. Oh, crap. **unvote all** **1. vote FlyFisheron 2. vote Santo Rugger 3. vote NBC** ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/897 "2008-09-19T14:41:17Z")
Compiling votecount now. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/898 "2008-09-19T14:46:00Z")
Well, I lack sufficient time to re-read all of yesterDay, but it appears **flyfisheron** ’s fate is sealed. 1. vote Flyfisheron 2. vote Rysto 3. vote NBC (Nothing personal on the vote, there, Rysto, I just want to make sure Flyfisheron is the clear vote leader if possible. NBC, by now, should be used to this from me :)). ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/899 "2008-09-19T14:50:05Z")
> [@Almost\_Human](#): > > (snipped) > > Bugger - you’re right though it’s really annoying especially as he may well be the suicidal vig but we’ll never know for sure unless we lynch him: > > **unvote all** > > **1 Vote Flyfisheron** > **2 Vote Shadow FActs** > **3 Vote Pollux** > > Last 2 are simply because they don’t have loads of votes against them. I’ve sent Pede an email to rechange Diggit’s vote as well to the same as this one. **1. NBC 2. Flyfisheron 3. Pollux Oil.** Umm… this is the list I’ve received ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/900 "2008-09-19T14:50:55Z")
I’m back and will definitely get my vote in. The whole **flyfisheron** getting mod-killed thing has definitely thrown a wrench into things. I agree with **story** and **MHaye** that [QUOTE=story] A modkill of flyfisheron screws us royally, in such a case, because we will be unable to treat any of our currently claimed power roles as confirmed. And that would defeat the whole purpose of the mass claim. [/QUOTE] I don’t want to take this huge claim risk and have it all devolve into confusion. So I think **NBC** is going to have to fall off my list for toDay (to be put at #1 tomorrow :D) So, let’s see: **1. flyfisheron** (to avoid modkill) **2. OAOW** (for saying that I was “anti-claim”, when I wasn’t, and had said that I thought it was probably a good idea) **3. Almost Human** (same reason as yesterDay - this is an admittedly lazy vote) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699.md?page=44) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699.md?page=46)