# Mafia--T2: Behind the Scenes **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 2, 2008, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699 "2008-09-02T17:07:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 46
**Author:** ![Almost\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@Almost\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Almost_Human)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/901 "2008-09-19T14:53:57Z")
> [@DiggitCamara](#): > > **1. NBC > 2. Flyfisheron > 3. Pollux Oil.** > > Umm… this is the list I’ve received That’s the first one I did. I had to send my revote via email as Pede’s pm box is full. Haven’t received confirmation yet that he’s received it but I’ve definitely done it - hope you get it in time. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/902 "2008-09-19T15:12:44Z")
Vote Count! Complete Votes: CIAS: 1. Flyfisheron, 2. Santo Rugger, 3. NBC NBC: 1. Storyteller 2. CIAS 3. Cookies Boozahol: 1. Cookies, 2. Flyfisheron, 3. NBC Cookies: 1. NBC, 2. NAF, 3. Flyfisheron NAF: 1. Cookies 2. NBC 3. Flyfisheron Almost Human: 1. Flyfisheron, 2. Shadow Facts, 3. Pollux Oil Oredigger: 1. NBC 2. Pollux 3. Diggit OAOW: 1. NBC 2. Cookies 3. Flyfisheron Diggit Camera: 1. Flyfisheron, 2. Shadow Facts, 3. Pollux Oil Pollux Oil: 1. NBC, 2. Cookies, 3. Flyfisheron Mhaye: 1. Flyfisheron, 2. CatInASuit, 3. Almost Human Rysto: 1. Flyfisheron, 2. Cookies, 3. Shadow Facts peeker: 1. Flyfisheron, 2. NBC, 3. Story Santo Rugger: 1. Flyfisheron, 2. Cookies, 3. NBC Total Lost: 1. Flyfisheron, 2. Pollux Oil, 3. Diggit Camera Story: 1. Flyfisheron, 2. Rysto, 3. NBC Shadow Facts: 1. Flyfisheron, 2. OAOW, 3. AH No incomplete currently. Special Effects: OAOW has +3 due to modslap. Sarah Connor is intimidating Santo Rugger Flyfisheron: (36) (Shadow Facts 1st, Storyteller 1st, CIAS 1st, Rysto 1st, AH 1st, Total Lost, Mhaye 1st, peeker 1st, Diggit Camera 1st, Boozy 2nd, Cookies 3rd, NAF 3rd, Santo 3rd, OAOW 3rd, Pollux Oil 3rd) NBC: (20) (Pollux Oil 1st, OAOW 1st, Oredigger 1st, Cookies 1st, NAF 2nd, CIAS 3rd, Peeker 2nd, Boozy 3nd, Santo 3rd, Storyteller 3rd) Cookies: (16) (Boozy 1st, NAF 1st, Rysto 2nd, Santo 2nd, OaOW 2nd, Pollux Oil 2nd, NBC 3rd) Pollux Oil: (6) (Total Lost 2nd, Oredigger 2nd, DiggitCamera 3rd, AH 3rd) Santo Rugger: (5) (CIAS 2nd, Sarah Connor Special Effect) Shadow Facts: (5) (AH 2nd, Diggit Camera 2nd, Rysto 3rd) OaOW: (5) (Shadow Facts 2nd, Modslap) Storyteller: (4) (NBC 1st, peeker 3rd) CIAS: (4) (NBC 2nd, Mhaye 2nd) Diggit: (2) (Total Lost 3rd, Oredigger 3rd) NAF: (2) (Cookies 2nd) Rysto: (2) (Story 2nd) Almost Human: (2) (Shadow Facts 3rd, Mhaye 3rd) ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/903 "2008-09-19T15:47:41Z")
For my last attempt at stratigizing I’m going to block/protect a power role tonight but I won’t disclose it untill right before Day 3. Hopefully this will verify me and we can lynch NAF’s scummy ass tomarrow. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/904 "2008-09-19T15:52:01Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > For my last attempt at stratigizing I’m going to block/protect a power role tonight but I won’t disclose it untill right before Day 3. Hopefully this will verify me and we can lynch NAF’s scummy ass tomarrow. Or not. Even if you’re verified, I don’t see benefit to lynching NAF so long as the Suicidal Vig is alive. If **flyfisheron** turns out to be the Suicidal Vig, that changes the calculus quite a bit, but we’ll find out soon enough. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/905 "2008-09-19T15:53:03Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > For my last attempt at stratigizing I’m going to block/protect a power role tonight but I won’t disclose it untill right before Day 3. Hopefully this will verify me and we can lynch NAF’s scummy ass tomarrow. Is this the optimum strategy? I was planning on blocking vanilla. ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/906 "2008-09-19T15:59:06Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > Is this the optimum strategy? I was planning on blocking vanilla. Not if he wants to confirm his role. ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/907 "2008-09-19T16:01:41Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > For my last attempt at stratigizing I’m going to block/protect a power role tonight but I won’t disclose it untill right before Day 3. Hopefully this will verify me and we can lynch NAF’s scummy ass tomarrow. Umm, I thought the SV was supposed to attack one of you?! ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/908 "2008-09-19T16:02:39Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > For my last attempt at stratigizing I’m going to block/protect a power role tonight but I won’t disclose it untill right before Day 3. Hopefully this will verify me and we can lynch NAF’s scummy ass tomarrow. Confirminate yourself all you want. The truth will be out there in the Dawn. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/909 "2008-09-19T16:08:47Z")
Alas poor Flyfisheron, we knew him not. (Come back and play again ;)) ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/910 "2008-09-19T16:09:55Z")
The day seemed to be going pretty well. Everyone decided to be a lot more open, and accusations were flying around, as they always do, but then someone noticed Flyfisheron. He was catatonic, laying on the ground and twitching as the imp circled over his body. Everyone paused. “Should…should we do something?” asked Total Lost? Diggit Camera replied, “Nah. The only way he’s gonna wake up is if he decides to.”. “Well, we gotta do something”, said peeker. “If we don’t, the imp will eat him, and if the imp eats him, we won’t be able to get into his room, and if we can’t get into his room…”. Silence hung in the air. Everyone was thinking about, but was too ashamed to say, that they were counting on plundering his room. It was common knowledge that, unlike most of the scientists, Flyfisheron was a rich entrepreneur before Skynet activated, and that he had kept his riches with him over the years. With his money, the resistance could be funded for a year…or more! “Stupid imp! Go away!” That was NAF1138, as he shooed at the imp. But it did not react. “Guess the only thing to do is to throw him in the lava.”, said Storyteller. “Yup.” The consensus was quickly reached. They heaved him in. No-one really bothered to look, since everyone figured…but AH looked back. "Yup. He’s town." “Well, at least we can get our drinks free tonight.” said CatInASuit in an attempt to lighten the mood. “What?” It is now night. No strategy. Dawn on Sunday like usual. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/911 "2008-09-19T16:11:08Z")
> [@MHaye](#): > > Alas poor Flyfisheron, we knew him not. > > (Come back and play again ;)) There’s a “sequel” joke and an “I’ll be back” joke here, but I can’t quite put it together… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/912 "2008-09-19T16:21:48Z")
No surprise there. Hey NAF come on over I’ll buy you a nice pint of oil. Me I need some good wiskey to clean out the rust, I’ll take a knob creek double on the rocks. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/913 "2008-09-19T17:16:47Z")
Is there an in-game reason for the lack of role reveals at death, **pedescribe** , or was that part of the original ruleset? ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/914 "2008-09-19T17:23:38Z")
Also, and by the way? That sucked. ---
**Author:** ![Almost\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@Almost\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Almost_Human)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/915 "2008-09-19T17:39:49Z")
When Zsofia died her keycard melted so her room was locked till Dawn, I guess that’s the set up for each day and we’ll find out if flyfisheron was anything then. btw Story your and Kat’s mafia game looks good - I’m going to enjoy reading that one. I was tempted to sign up but I’ve already got two on the go. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/916 "2008-09-19T17:46:26Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > Is there an in-game reason for the lack of role reveals at death, **pedescribe** , or was that part of the original ruleset? Yeah, that was part of the original ruleset. Because some roles rely on figuring out who has what power role (Assassain T-1000, bus driver, original Sarah Connor (btw, this was a really cool role, one that I will gladly share with the next game designer. (and the reason it didn’t make the cut is because it didn’t fit in with who the character was at all (only it would only work in a closed game, so I can’t reveal it)))), I figured it would be a more interesting decision if the role wasn’t revealed until dawn. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/917 "2008-09-19T17:59:35Z")
> [@Almost\_Human](#): > > When Zsofia died her keycard melted so her room was locked till Dawn, I guess that’s the set up for each day and we’ll find out if flyfisheron was anything then. > > btw Story your and Kat’s mafia game looks good - I’m going to enjoy reading that one. I was tempted to sign up but I’ve already got two on the go. You sure? We need a sub; Cookies had to bow out. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/918 "2008-09-19T18:11:34Z")
☹ - So long **flyfisheron**. **Squid** , get that bar open, I want a bottle of Dog. ---
**Author:** ![Almost\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@Almost\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Almost_Human)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/919 "2008-09-19T18:15:22Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > You sure? We need a sub; Cookies had to bow out. Very tempted but I won’t have much free time till Sunday night (final brat’s off to uni this w/e). If you still need someone by then, count me in and if you’ve got someone feel free to stick me on the sub’s bench 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/920 "2008-09-19T19:10:07Z")
Cookies needed to sub out. So we need someone else to take her place. Dot was on the sub list, but I don’t know how to contact her or if she’s even still here, so if she doesn’t respond in time, I need another sub. Anyone? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699.md?page=45) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699.md?page=47)