# Mafia--T2: Behind the Scenes **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 2, 2008, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699 "2008-09-02T17:07:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 49
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/961 "2008-09-21T18:01:04Z")
If your action was blocked, he’s either the blocker or a preternaturally good guesser and NAF is scum. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/962 "2008-09-21T18:02:51Z")
thinking about it, Oredigger looks even more jesterish now. This gem confirms him scum for me ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/963 "2008-09-21T18:03:59Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > If your action was blocked, he’s either the blocker or a preternaturally good guesser and NAF is scum. had i used my power last night, the only way i would know i was blocked would be if i got NK’d. that was an amazingly anti town use of power, hence he isn’t town. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/964 "2008-09-21T18:07:12Z")
Hmm. That’s reasonably sound, there. Anything to say, Oredigger? ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/965 "2008-09-21T19:01:04Z")
Jeeze, no faith at all. 😃 Not that I blaim you. The reason that I picked OAOW is that I didnt think that the scum would target him. If the scum attacked whomever I selected they would know who I protected/blocked and NAF could claim he did the block. Secondly my powers basically duplicate the comuter’s power and so there would be no net loss to the town. The only thing I didnt think of was that OAOW wouldn’t be notified that his powers failed because he couldn’t be killed last night. Oh well, no major loss, you’re afraid that I’m the jester so I shouldn’t get lynched. I’ll try and pick better tomorrow Night. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/966 "2008-09-21T19:02:31Z")
> [@CatInASuit](#): > > I have no idea if \*\*Squid \*\*can confirm me or not. To do so, would involve knowing what the John Connor role does. If you have some inside track on the John Connor role, which only \*\*Squid \*\*is supposed to know please feel free to tell the rest of us. > > At this moment in time, I agree, I am not confirmed. So I’ll wait for \*\*Squid \*\*to answer, which was who the question was aimed at and apologies for not making it clear. Sorry, dude. The only thing that’s confirmed is that you’ve watched T2. As it is, I hope that I’m confirmed as John Conners: either I am, or whoever actually has the roles really wants the rest of the town to think I am. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/967 "2008-09-21T19:04:35Z")
> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > had i used my power last night, the only way i would know i was blocked would be if i got NK’d. that was an amazingly anti town use of power, hence he isn’t town. I agree entirely. I think we need to let the Vig sort him out, and we need to start focussing on narrowing our pool of vanillas. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/968 "2008-09-21T19:26:02Z")
How the heck do you agree that it’s scummy and then say we should ignore it? Seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Almost\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@Almost\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Almost_Human)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/969 "2008-09-21T19:30:08Z")
Well it’s good to know we’ve still got our suicidal vig - I was pretty sure that was Flyfisheron’s role. I don’t understand why **Oredigger** would choose to target the commuter to prove himself town - doesn’t make sense at all. If he were really town he could’ve targetted me with no real harm done as I’m pretty sure we’ll reach a concensus on who to vote for toDay so my influencing one person’s vote won’t make a huge difference and I’d have been able to confirm him. Up till then I was more inclined to believe him over NAF, though mostly only because he claimed first. Now I’m highly suspicious. All that aside though, we’ve got too many people to risk lynching the Jester yet so I agree we need to concentrate on the claimed vanillas toDay. ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/970 "2008-09-21T20:00:59Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > How the heck do you agree that it’s scummy and then say we should ignore it? Seriously. Go back and re-read Yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/971 "2008-09-21T20:11:51Z")
Sorry, I shouldn’t be such a dick, considering all the stuff I flubbed on Yesterday. :smack: There’s quite a high likelyhood that \*\*NAF \*\*or **Ore** are the Jester. We don’t want to lynch them, because then they can recruit. If the Vig doesn’t sort them out, we’ll lynch them after we have 12 or less players. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/972 "2008-09-21T20:19:10Z")
Yeah, I kinda hope the Vig gets on the ball with that–I was kinda expecting it last Night. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/973 "2008-09-21T20:20:08Z")
> [@Santo\_Rugger](#): > > Confirmed Pro-Town(Dead) > Blaster Master (T-800) > sachertorte > Zsofia > Flyfisheron > peekercpa (Roleblocker) I might have missed it - but do we know for sure that Peekercpa was the roleblocker? I believe he was - but was it implied in the description of the what happened in the Night? ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/974 "2008-09-21T20:20:29Z")
> [@CatInASuit](#): > > I have no idea if \*\*Squid \*\*can confirm me or not. To do so, would involve knowing what the John Connor role does. If you have some inside track on the John Connor role, which only \*\*Squid \*\*is supposed to know please feel free to tell the rest of us. > > At this moment in time, I agree, I am not confirmed. So I’ll wait for \*\*Squid \*\*to answer, which was who the question was aimed at and apologies for not making it clear. He already did.😕 > [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > I should probably fess up and add that the reason that my question didn’t go through last night was because I didn’t ask one. I really don’t see how John’s power is very useful, except perhaps as a tool for forcing someone to make a roleclaim. > > My question tonight will include a reference to my name, just as a further verification tool for everyone. > [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > We all get the information, including the identity of the person I ask the question to. Just letting you know, it’s not going to be a tool for one way hidden towny communication or anything. > > Thanks, though. > [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > You don’t [have to answer JC truthfully]. That’s why I find the ability of somewhat limited usefulness. ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/975 "2008-09-21T20:23:00Z")
> [@Total\_Lost](#): > > I might have missed it - but do we know for sure that Peekercpa was the roleblocker? > I believe he was - but was it implied in the description of the what happened in the Night? Yes. > [@](#): > > Eventually, the source is found: a taser. It must have been turned against its owner. ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/976 "2008-09-21T20:24:01Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > Yeah, I kinda hope the Vig gets on the ball with that–I was kinda expecting it last Night. It’s quite possible that the Vig targeted NAF, who protected himself. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/977 "2008-09-21T20:28:27Z")
> [@Santo\_Rugger](#): > > Yes. I see - thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/978 "2008-09-21T20:42:42Z")
> [@Santo\_Rugger](#): > > It’s quite possible that the Vig targeted NAF, who protected himself. I doubt that the Paranoid Doc can self-protect – if he tried, he’d role-block his own protection. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/979 "2008-09-21T22:06:56Z")
> [@Almost\_Human](#): > > I don’t understand why **Oredigger** would choose to target the commuter to prove himself town - doesn’t make sense at all. If he were really town he could’ve targetted me with no real harm done as I’m pretty sure we’ll reach a concensus on who to vote for toDay so my influencing one person’s vote won’t make a huge difference and I’d have been able to confirm him. Up till then I was more inclined to believe him over NAF, though mostly only because he claimed first. Now I’m highly suspicious. > > All that aside though, we’ve got too many people to risk lynching the Jester yet so I agree we need to concentrate on the claimed vanillas toDay. I agree that targeting \*\*OAOW \*\*doesn’t make sense from a Townie point of view. If he \*really \*wanted to be confirmed, he could have done just what you say. His action looks like a stall or - I’m thinking Jester here - a blatant mistake in hopes of getting lynched. I also agree that we should focus on the claimed vanillas toDay. That was the intention with the mass claim, so we should continue with the plan. I’m not going to waste any time and go right ahead with: **1. Vote NBC** (see yesterDay for reasons - I can dig up post numbers on request) Not sure about 2 & 3 yet. My 2 & 3 votes yesterDay were rushed and stupid, as I wanted to make sure \*\*flyfisheron \*\*got lynched so we’d get his info. I need to re-evaluate, but my votes will be from this pool: CatInASuit Cookies/Zeriel DiggitCamara Pollux Oil Santo Rugger storyteller0910 ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/980 "2008-09-21T22:11:16Z")
I’m starting to think whomever the Paranoid Doc fake claimant is, is trying to make us think -they’re- the Jester, so we can lynch NBC with impunity. ☹ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699.md?page=48) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699.md?page=50)