# Mafia--T2: Behind the Scenes **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 2, 2008, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699 "2008-09-02T17:07:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/81 "2008-09-04T21:21:52Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > Well that’s the most enjoyable thing about this group. You can lie, cheat and generally just behave poorly and be embraced. But cheat and you will be a pariah. As long as you lie and behave poorly when you cheat? I’m confused. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/82 "2008-09-04T21:23:16Z")
Stop confusing Cookies with the double-negatives! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/83 "2008-09-04T21:23:47Z")
reconfirming ---
**Author:** ![Almost\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@Almost\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Almost_Human)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/84 "2008-09-04T21:23:48Z")
Confirming the new PM . Look forward to playing with you guys 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/85 "2008-09-04T21:27:02Z")
> [@Santo\_Rugger](#): > > I didn’t notice that there were multiple recipients, because I read it via email, and never opened the one on the Dope until **sach** pointed that out. Ah, that explains it then. When I posted my discovery I had to double check because I saw you, storyteller and Zsofia posting without a word. I thought I was hallucinating! ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/86 "2008-09-04T21:28:44Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > All role PMs sent (again). Game will start Friday at noon regardless. First day ends next Friday at noon, and then goes F-S, M-F as usual. Don’t want to be trouble - but could I get a timezone? Please 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/87 "2008-09-04T21:29:17Z")
Confirming the new role pm ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/88 "2008-09-04T21:30:26Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > Ah, that explains it then. When I posted my discovery I had to double check because I saw you, storyteller and Zsofia posting without a word. I thought I was hallucinating! Confirming my new PM, and sach isn’t on the recipient list. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/89 "2008-09-04T21:32:47Z")
Confirming. And I think this is the first time Sach and I have played together since M5. That’s weird. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/90 "2008-09-04T21:58:41Z")
> [@Santo\_Rugger](#): > > As long as you lie and behave poorly when you cheat? I’m confused. I meant manipulate. Remember to preview, remember to preview, … Crap, back to my old ways. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/91 "2008-09-04T22:02:00Z")
And re confirming, as well. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/92 "2008-09-04T22:17:23Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > All role PMs sent (again). Game will start Friday at noon regardless. First day ends next Friday at noon, and then goes F-S, M-F as usual. Noon _where_, exactly? Inquiring minds want to know. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/93 "2008-09-04T22:24:30Z")
> [@MHaye](#): > > Noon _where_, exactly? Inquiring minds want to know. I vote for noon in Singapore that way no one will be on the right time. That looks like it is coming up in about 30 hours or so. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/94 "2008-09-04T22:39:33Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > I vote for noon in Singapore that way no one will be on the right time. That looks like it is coming up in about 30 hours or so. I concur. And I propose we refer to this as JST - Jack Sparrow Time. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/95 "2008-09-04T22:43:16Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > I concur. And I propose we refer to this as JST - Jack Sparrow Time. Seconded! ---
**Author:** ![Flyfisheron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/fbc32d/32.png) [@Flyfisheron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyfisheron)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/96 "2008-09-04T22:54:41Z")
Role received. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/97 "2008-09-04T22:56:48Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > I concur. And I propose we refer to this as JST - Jack Sparrow Time. But wouldn’t that be more in the Carribean as opposed to being around the South China sea? Maybe JST +/- 12. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/98 "2008-09-04T23:02:12Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > But wouldn’t that be more in the Carribean as opposed to being around the South China sea? Maybe JST +/- 12. Obviously you’ve never been to Singapore… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/99 "2008-09-04T23:05:14Z")
Reconfirmirationing. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/100 "2008-09-05T00:40:29Z")
> [@Santo\_Rugger](#): > > 😕 I wasn’t being dishonest? Vanilla handshakes is one of the very first things I saw used in this game. That’s why a lot of mods either send different PMs to everybody, or post the Vanilla PM to the group. My proposed suggestion would have been in no way dishonest; I didn’t notice that there were multiple recipients, because I read it via email, and never opened the one on the Dope until **sach** pointed that out. I’ve never seen that technique before. Huh. Alright, Vanilla PM is: > [@Vanilla PM](#): > > Ordinary Scientist > > You are an ordinary scientist. Well, you _were_ an ordinary scientist until the chaos broke out. Now you are a grunt in the battle of wits that determines the outcome of the Resistance. You have no abilities except your logic, reasoning and discussion. Use them well. > > Win Condition: You win when all T-1000s have been melted. > Power Rules: N/A. Also, the first time I said EST. Meant to say that again… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699.md?page=6)