# Mafia--T2: Behind the Scenes **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 2, 2008, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699 "2008-09-02T17:07:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 75
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/1481 "2008-10-17T14:53:33Z")
> [@MHaye](#): > > After OaoW’slynch there was a two-way tie between Zeriel and ShadowFacts. With Zeriel’s vote it’s a three-way tie, with Santo Rugger added. > > OaOW _said_ that he wished to promote a Zeriel lynch, but in fact he created a tie. He had the power to avoid creating a tie since he also has a vote on ShadowFacts, which he could have removed at the same time, but did not. > > I consider self-preservation voting a null tell, especially in the current gamestate. Thus, this does not increase my suspicion of Zeriel. It does put OaOW on the radar as a possible recruit though. Aside from where you said “lynch” instead of “vote,” I agree completely. ---
**Author:** ![Almost\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@Almost\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Almost_Human)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/1482 "2008-10-17T15:07:59Z")
Bah sorry Shadow I know I shouldn’t post when intoxicated but to avoid a tie I’ve changed your vote. You should get a pm shortly. [[oog Mighty Boosh was awesome - youtube it if you’ve never heard of it oog]] ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/1483 "2008-10-17T15:14:18Z")
I was wrong: AH is indeed around and has spoken again: **unvote all** **vote 1 Shadow Facts vote 2 Santo vote 3 Zeriel** That sucks, but it’s better than a tie, and there’s not much I can do about it anyway 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/1484 "2008-10-17T15:20:01Z")
Well, by my hopeless Maths, that puts \*\*Shadowfacts \*\*on 18, \*\*Santo \*\*on 16 and \*\*Zeriel \*\*on 14. Anyone else?? ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/1485 "2008-10-17T15:22:41Z")
> [@CatInASuit](#): > > Well, by my hopeless Maths, that puts \*\*Shadowfacts \*\*on 18, \*\*Santo \*\*on 16 and \*\*Zeriel \*\*on 14. That looks correct to me. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/1486 "2008-10-17T15:26:35Z")
Complete Votes: Zeriel: 1. Santo Rugger, 2. CatInASuit, 3. Mhaye Santo Rugger: 1. Shadow Facts, 2. CatInASuit, 3. Zeriel Oredigger77: 1. Santo Rugger, 2. Zeriel, 3. Rysto DiggitCamera: 1. ShadowFacts, 2. CatInASuit, 3. Zeriel Almost Human: 1. ShadowFacts, 2. Santo Rugger, 3. Zeriel Shadow Fact: 1. Shadow Facts, 2. Santo, 3. Zeriel OaOW: 1. Zeriel, 2. CatInASuit, 3. Shadow Facts Mhaye: 1. Santo Rugger, 2. Zeriel, 3. Shadow Facts Rysto: 1. Zeriel, 2. Shadow Facts, 3. Mhaye CatInASuit: 1. Santo Rugger, 2. Shadow Facts, 3. Mhaye Totals: Shadow Facts: (18) (Santo Rugger 1st, Diggit Camera 1st, AH 1st, Rysto 2nd, CatInASuit 2nd, OaOW 3rd, Shadow Facts 1st, Mhaye 3rd) Santo Rugger: (16) (Zeriel 1st, CatInASuit 1st, Mhaye 1st, Oredigger 1st, Shadow Facts 2nd, AH 2nd) Zeriel: (14) (Rysto 1st, OaOW 1st, Oredigger 2nd, Mhaye 2nd, Santo Rugger 3rd, AH 3rd, Diggit Camera 3rd, Shadow Facts 3rd) CatInASuit: (8) (Zeriel 2nd, DiggitCamera 2nd, Santo Rugger 2nd, OaOW 2nd) Mhaye: (3) (Zeriel 3rd, Rysto 3rd, CatInASuit 3rd) Rysto: (1) (Oredigger 3rd) ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/1487 "2008-10-17T15:45:16Z")
Is it getting hot in here or is it just me? ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/1488 "2008-10-17T15:54:55Z")
In case I don’t wake up, I’m going to follow Zeriel’s advice. That is, I’m going to use my third vote to indicate who I think is most likely to be recruited. Unvote **3. ShadowFacts**. Vote **3. One and Only Wanderers**. Fortunately I can do this without creating a tie (or I wouldn’t have done so.) I’m comfortable with reducing the lead ShadowFacts has, because I think his reaction to the impending lynch is a Townie one. OaOW’s role lends itself to recruitment because it never has any observable effects, so he’d never have to admit to a lost power. Of the three players with no confirmation of their powers, I think he’s far more likely to have been recruited than Rysto (who we are testing Tonight, remember). I know it’s not me who was recrutied, which means it’s OaOW or one of the vanilla pool. OaOW’s action in creating a tie when he need not have done raises my suspicions to the point where I want them recorded. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/1489 "2008-10-17T16:03:14Z")
Final Vote Count: Complete Votes: Zeriel: 1. Santo Rugger, 2. CatInASuit, 3. Mhaye Santo Rugger: 1. Shadow Facts, 2. CatInASuit, 3. Zeriel Oredigger77: 1. Santo Rugger, 2. Zeriel, 3. Rysto DiggitCamera: 1. ShadowFacts, 2. CatInASuit, 3. Zeriel Almost Human: 1. ShadowFacts, 2. Santo Rugger, 3. Zeriel Shadow Fact: 1. Shadow Facts, 2. Santo, 3. Zeriel OaOW: 1. Zeriel, 2. CatInASuit, 3. Shadow Facts Mhaye: 1. Santo Rugger, 2. Zeriel, 3. OaOW Rysto: 1. Zeriel, 2. Shadow Facts, 3. Mhaye CatInASuit: 1. Santo Rugger, 2. Shadow Facts, 3. Mhaye Totals: Shadow Facts: (17) (Santo Rugger 1st, Diggit Camera 1st, AH 1st, Rysto 2nd, CatInASuit 2nd, OaOW 3rd, Shadow Facts 1st) Santo Rugger: (16) (Zeriel 1st, CatInASuit 1st, Mhaye 1st, Oredigger 1st, Shadow Facts 2nd, AH 2nd) Zeriel: (14) (Rysto 1st, OaOW 1st, Oredigger 2nd, Mhaye 2nd, Santo Rugger 3rd, AH 3rd, Diggit Camera 3rd, Shadow Facts 3rd) CatInASuit: (8) (Zeriel 2nd, DiggitCamera 2nd, Santo Rugger 2nd, OaOW 2nd) Mhaye: (3) (Zeriel 3rd, Rysto 3rd, CatInASuit 3rd) Rysto: (1) (Oredigger 3rd) OaOW: (1) (Mhaye 3rd) ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/1490 "2008-10-17T16:05:30Z")
The group was getting more and more nervous as they talked. Everyone looked suspicious, there were spats about whether to hit him, or her, or both, or no-one. Barely, they decided to throw Shadow Facts in. Cringing, he jumped. Cringing, the others watched. His body started shifting desperatly as it melted. Relieved, but still worried, the group retired for now. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/1491 "2008-10-17T16:13:05Z")
A word: “Woot”. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/1492 "2008-10-17T16:16:06Z")
Curses, foiled again! 😃 Thanks for a great game, everyone! GO SCUM! ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/1493 "2008-10-17T16:20:06Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > Curses, foiled again! 😃 > > Thanks for a great game, everyone! > > GO SCUM! So close shadow. Come join us in the spoilers forum. Do dead robots get to drink here? ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/1494 "2008-10-17T16:20:47Z")
Sure, why not. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/1495 "2008-10-17T16:43:29Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > So close shadow. Come join us in the spoilers forum. > > Do dead robots get to drink here? Not in this bar they don’t. Excellent , crispy fried scum 😃 So, who wants what then. ---
**Author:** ![Almost\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@Almost\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Almost_Human)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/1496 "2008-10-17T16:49:02Z")
Cool. I must remember to play drunk more often! ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/1497 "2008-10-17T17:58:51Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > Curses, foiled again! 😃 > > Thanks for a great game, everyone! > > GO SCUM! Jackass. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/1498 "2008-10-17T18:13:52Z")
Actually, the crispy fried scum sounds pretty good. Can I get a side of Ranch with that? ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/1499 "2008-10-17T20:32:13Z")
Wow, we got another one. Sorry I missed the excitement there at the end. Nice job on the last minute vote switches town. Since its freezing cold here lately I’ll take a peppermint schnapps and hot chocolate. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699/1500 "2008-10-17T20:58:03Z")
I see Oredigger has a taste for Dirty Girl Scouts… Can someone pm me the forbidden board, pretty please, with Dirty Girl Scouts on top? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699.md?page=74) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-t2-behind-the-scenes/461699.md?page=76)