# Mafia: The Conspiracy **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 15, 2007, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-conspiracy/419307 "2007-09-15T13:59:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2007, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-conspiracy/419307/81 "2007-09-22T17:17:12Z")
[QUOTE=Pleonast] We have enough. Roles will be sent out on Wednesday. As others have reiterated, it’s not too late to join in–I’ll pick people (and line up roles) via [random.org](http://random.org). I want to give everyone a shot at joining the game. I’ll probably pick subs randomly as well, although I’m more inclined to mod-kill. [/QUOTE] While I completely understand the desire to be flexible and not unduly affect the outcome of the game by killing players, I suggest that a “no substitutions, you WILL be modkilled” policy would make people think thrice about bailing. Just a thought. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2007, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-conspiracy/419307/82 "2007-09-22T19:29:50Z")
[QUOTE=ShadowFacts] While I completely understand the desire to be flexible and not unduly affect the outcome of the game by killing players, I suggest that a “no substitutions, you WILL be modkilled” policy would make people think thrice about bailing. Just a thought. [/QUOTE] The problem with it is that it really just punishes the teammates of the payer: if one of the witches ends up getting too caught up in work/school, or if the Omega Wolf gets banned for pissing in **fluiddruid’s** cornflakes, it could be dangerously upsetting to the balance of the game. Then again, as long as it’s not someone on my side, I’m fine with it. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2007, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-conspiracy/419307/83 "2007-09-22T21:43:06Z")
[QUOTE=Diomedes] The problem with it is that it really just punishes the teammates of the payer: if one of the witches ends up getting too caught up in work/school, or if the Omega Wolf gets banned for pissing in **fluiddruid’s** cornflakes, it could be dangerously upsetting to the balance of the game. Then again, as long as it’s not someone on my side, I’m fine with it. 🆒 [/QUOTE] Yeah, it’s a tough call, and as a general rule I’m in favor of flexibility. But watching Mafia V here, it was clear that the attitude of some folks was “Oh, they can just sub me in, so it’s no big deal if I bug out.” But it turned out to be a big deal when so many left. Anyway, it’s Pleonast’s call - I was just tossing in a thought I had. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2007, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-conspiracy/419307/84 "2007-09-23T00:00:32Z")
I figure I need to be like the Federal Reserve: give strong hints about what I’m thinking about doing, but not commit to anything. 😃 So my strong inclination to mod-kill should discourage players from quitting. But I have enough freedom, that if a mod-kill would upset the game too much, I can sub. The benefit of having many power roles, is no single player is absolutely essential. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2007, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-conspiracy/419307/85 "2007-09-23T01:30:34Z")
How do we know if we’ve made it into the game? (Or have less than twenty people signed up?) ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2007, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-conspiracy/419307/86 "2007-09-23T01:39:27Z")
[QUOTE=Zoggie] How do we know if we’ve made it into the game? (Or have less than twenty people signed up?) [/QUOTE] Upthread, **Pleonast** said that roles will be sent out on Wednesday. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2007, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-conspiracy/419307/87 "2007-09-23T02:30:52Z")
[QUOTE=Diomedes] Hopefully, he’s picking the subs on a random selection basis, too… just imagine, if we had someone drop out every Day, we could lynch dotchan every dusk! [/QUOTE] Sounds like a perfect plan. If we lynch her whilst a normal player, she’ll be able to sub in. Once she becomes scum, we lynch her and get scum! Win-win! ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2007, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-conspiracy/419307/88 "2007-09-23T22:24:53Z")
[QUOTE=DiggitCamara] Sounds like a perfect plan. If we lynch her whilst a normal player, she’ll be able to sub in. Once she becomes scum, we lynch her and get scum! Win-win! [/QUOTE] Step One: Lynch dotchan Step Two: ??? Step Three: Profit!!! ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-conspiracy/419307/89 "2007-09-24T22:46:31Z")
I hope you guys don’t confuse future vote counts with your pre-Game antics. 🙂 I’ve written the PMs for all the Roles. Everything is ready to go; I’m just waiting for Wednesday afternoon to make the Player and Role selections (yes, lurkers, you can still sign up for a chance to play). I wish I could include everyone, but experience shows the smaller games work better. That’ll be especially true for this complex rules set. I’m really looking forward to this–I hope you all will enjoy it to. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-conspiracy/419307/90 "2007-09-24T22:52:24Z")
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee] Upthread, **Pleonast** said that roles will be sent out on Wednesday. 🙂 [/QUOTE] Whoops–thanks! Till Wednesday, then. Will players who expressed interest but don’t make it to this game have any sort of priority in future games? ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-conspiracy/419307/91 "2007-09-24T23:02:02Z")
[QUOTE=Zoggie] Whoops–thanks! Till Wednesday, then. Will players who expressed interest but don’t make it to this game have any sort of priority in future games? [/QUOTE] That’s up to future game moderators. Personally, I like the system I’m using–a few reserved spots (including the last game’s unlucky shut-outs, if any) and then a random draw. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-conspiracy/419307/92 "2007-09-25T10:03:50Z")
I’m really looking forward to this, it looks like it could be really good fun. Here’s hoping \*\*dotchan \*\* doesn’t get lynched immediately. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-conspiracy/419307/93 "2007-09-25T14:41:02Z")
Hey, **dotchan** , you said you wanted to be on the sub list, not the starting player list. Is this still true? Or do you want the opportunity to be lynched immediately? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-conspiracy/419307/94 "2007-09-25T18:57:54Z")
[QUOTE=Pleonast] Hey, **dotchan** , you said you wanted to be on the sub list, not the starting player list. Is this still true? Or do you want the opportunity to be lynched immediately? 😉 [/QUOTE] Hey, who said she had to be in the game to be lynched immediately . 😛 ---
**Author:** ![dotchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@dotchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dotchan)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-conspiracy/419307/95 "2007-09-25T19:23:44Z")
[QUOTE=Pleonast] Hey, **dotchan** , you said you wanted to be on the sub list, not the starting player list. Is this still true? Or do you want the opportunity to be lynched immediately? 😉 [/QUOTE] Yeah, I’ve subbed back into NAF/Kat’s game (mwahaha! I’m invincible! :D) so I’m gonna hang out in the peanut gallery. Remember, if the rest of you players flake you have to risk me being your replacement! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-conspiracy/419307/96 "2007-09-25T19:31:15Z")
Oh, that reminds me, there can be no subbing back in for players in this game. Once you’re dead for sure, you’re out. With no vanilla roles, it just wouldn’t work. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-conspiracy/419307/97 "2007-09-25T20:48:46Z")
Sounds sensible. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2007, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-conspiracy/419307/98 "2007-09-26T09:43:32Z")
C’Mon **Pleonast** , it’s now wednesday, where are the PM’s? Also are you going to PM anyone who didn’t make it that they are going to be on the sub list if they want. **CIAS** ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2007, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-conspiracy/419307/99 "2007-09-26T13:23:43Z")
Pleonast is on the West Coast of the US. I presume he is sleeping. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2007, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-conspiracy/419307/100 "2007-09-26T14:49:00Z")
[QUOTE=CatinaSuit] C’Mon **Pleonast** , it’s now wednesday, where are the PM’s? Also are you going to PM anyone who didn’t make it that they are going to be on the sub list if they want. [/QUOTE] You crazy British, up at odd hours in the night. 🙂 I did say noon, Pacific Time. I’ll probably get to it before then, depending on my workload this morning. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-conspiracy/419307.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-conspiracy/419307.md?page=6)