# MAFIA: The Game - Ideal for Beginners \[Game in Progress\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [July 14, 2015, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099 "2015-07-14T00:45:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1081 "2015-08-10T02:37:47Z")

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> [@storyteller0910](#):
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> **Anyone object terribly if I end the Day a bit early tomorrow? I have to go out at 11 and would like to post Day’s end before then.**

Ok by me.

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1082 "2015-08-10T03:20:05Z")

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> [@storyteller0910](#):
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> **Anyone object terribly if I end the Day a bit early tomorrow? I have to go out at 11 and would like to post Day’s end before then.**

Yep ok with me

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1083 "2015-08-10T03:21:35Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
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> I had my reasons.

You want us to agree to a plan that you wont share details and admit to posting less than honest questions?

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**Author:** ![sangfroid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@sangfroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sangfroid)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1084 "2015-08-10T03:51:34Z")

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> [@storyteller0910](#):
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> **Anyone object terribly if I end the Day a bit early tomorrow? I have to go out at 11 and would like to post Day’s end before then.**

Fine by me.

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**Author:** ![Sario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sario/32/18580_2.png) [@Sario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sario)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1085 "2015-08-10T04:06:20Z")

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> [@storyteller0910](#):
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> **Anyone object terribly if I end the Day a bit early tomorrow? I have to go out at 11 and would like to post Day’s end before then.**

Day seems to be over already anyway.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1086 "2015-08-10T04:11:31Z")

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> [@Precambrianmollusc](#):
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> You want us to agree to a plan that you wont share details and admit to posting less than honest questions?

I suppose that’s about the size of it. But actually right now I am only interested if players think it fair or not to tweek the voting for maximum information,\*\* for town\*\*, from the results of the tweeked vote— when the parties being voted upon are our leading suspects.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1087 "2015-08-10T12:49:54Z")

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Though I can understand reluctance to support an idea from a person who can’t even spell “tweak” right…

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1088 "2015-08-10T13:18:03Z")

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> [@storyteller0910](#):
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> **Anyone object terribly if I end the Day a bit early tomorrow? I have to go out at 11 and would like to post Day’s end before then.**

OK by me.

Sorry for not participating more this past weekend. I was traveling. Also, I’ve been working under the assumption that I’ll be mauled tonight, so I haven’t been all that engaged. However, in the off chance that I make it, I’ll try to investigate someone. I’m open to suggestions. If you want to vote for me to investigate someone, have at it. I might not follow anyone’s suggestions, but I’ll take them under consideration.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1089 "2015-08-10T13:20:49Z")

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**Bayard** - does your spreadsheet have any other interesting datapoints aside from what you’ve told us about **Jsexton**?

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1090 "2015-08-10T13:22:27Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> **Bayard** - does your spreadsheet have any other interesting datapoints aside from what you’ve told us about **Jsexton**?

Let me take another look in a few minutes. I’ve been meaning to look at one other angle. I should be able to get to it before the Day ends…

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1091 "2015-08-10T13:32:29Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
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> Though I can understand reluctance to support an idea from a person who can’t even spell “tweak” right…

Given my terrible punctuation and lack of diligence in spell checking and use of painful run on sentences which may not or may or might never get to the point, possibly , I wouldn’t hold a spelling error against the idea;)  
I would say if it involves telling people which way to vote, then it won’t be fun and will suffer from the herding cats problem. Like the original plan, it would be better if someone just ran a Monte Carlo simulation and let us know the results of several thousand runs, and the rest of us can play the game.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1092 "2015-08-10T13:46:16Z")

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> [@storyteller0910](#):
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> **Anyone object terribly if I end the Day a bit early tomorrow? I have to go out at 11 and would like to post Day’s end before then.**

No problem.

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**Author:** ![Cygnus42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Cygnus42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cygnus42)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1093 "2015-08-10T13:46:17Z")

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> [@storyteller0910](#):
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> **Anyone object terribly if I end the Day a bit early tomorrow? I have to go out at 11 and would like to post Day’s end before then.**

This is fine by me, btw.

Busy weekend - didn’t have much of a chance to ponder the stuff discussed over the last couple days. Not that there’s all that much from the weekend, but I’m wondering about the point of **Biotop’s** latest plan.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1094 "2015-08-10T14:47:12Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> Let me take another look in a few minutes. I’ve been meaning to look at one other angle. I should be able to get to it before the Day ends…

Since we’re coming up on end of day, I wanted to quickly update this. I don’t really have much else to add. I looked at whether anything jumped out at me as far as who **JSexton** supported, but I couldn’t come up with a coherent theory on that. He didn’t really come out with unambiguous support for many players, and I don’t recall anyone really backing him up that strongly either. So, as least as far as my notes take me, I think looking at the players who didn’t interact much with him might be the best bet.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1095 "2015-08-10T14:50:04Z")

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Alrighty. Thank you for your se[e]rvice.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1096 "2015-08-10T14:52:15Z")

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Sniff.

This is kind of like the thumbs up from the Terminator.

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1097 "2015-08-10T14:53:15Z")

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**DUSK, DAY THREE**

\*O! The weeping!

O! The humanity!

O! The wailing and rending of garments!

**JSexton** was lynched, of course, and he went to his end silently, leading many to feel their suspicions had been well-founded. Imagine, then, their collective shock and horror when they tossed his cabin and found no evidence whatsoever that he had been anything other than a garden variety blacksmith. With a collection of ceramic unicorns. And two little kitties that depended on their now deceased owner for warmth and protection. That’s right, you just orphaned two helpless kittens, and all to lynch an innocent Townie!

Nah, I’m just kidding. That guy was totally a Werewolf.\*

**JSexton** , who was Werewolf #3, has been lynched.

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Night Three begins here, and will end at noon EST on Wednesday, August 12, unless the Wolves and Seer would collectively like it to go a bit faster given the dragginess of Day Three.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1098 "2015-08-10T14:54:19Z")

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That’s right, wolves. Post here if you’d like it to end sooner

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1099 "2015-08-10T15:20:51Z")

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> [@storyteller0910](#):
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> **DUSK, DAY THREE**
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> \*O! The weeping!
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> O! The humanity!
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> O! The wailing and rending of garments!
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> **JSexton** was lynched, of course, and he went to his end silently, leading many to feel their suspicions had been well-founded. Imagine, then, their collective shock and horror when they tossed his cabin and found no evidence whatsoever that he had been anything other than a garden variety blacksmith. With a collection of ceramic unicorns. And two little kitties that depended on their now deceased owner for warmth and protection. That’s right, you just orphaned two helpless kittens, and all to lynch an innocent Townie!
> 
> Nah, I’m just kidding. That guy was totally a Werewolf.\*
> 
> **JSexton** , who was Werewolf #3, has been lynched.
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> * * *
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> Night Three begins here, and will end at noon EST on Wednesday, August 12, unless the Wolves and Seer would collectively like it to go a bit faster given the dragginess of Day Three.

OK by me.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1100 "2015-08-10T16:00:43Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> That’s right, wolves. Post here if you’d like it to end sooner

Just raise a paw and we will assist you momentarily.🙂

Well, it’s no surprise, and certainly no credit to Town’s deductive abilities, but it sure is nice to have a happy ending to the Day for a change! Here’s hoping it starts a trend!

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