# MAFIA: The Game - Ideal for Beginners \[Game in Progress\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [July 14, 2015, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099 "2015-07-14T00:45:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 60
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1181 "2015-08-16T13:21:58Z")
**VOTE COUNT** 1. **Plumpudding** (3 votes) - Thing Fish (1114), TexCat (1118), Johnny Bravo (1142) 2. **Precambrianmollusc** (2 votes) - DiggitCamara (1129), Nonsuch (1172) 3. **DiggitCamara** (1 vote) - Jimmy Chitwood (1132) Day will end at 12:00PM Eastern time tomorrow (Monday, August 17), or in just under 27 hours. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1182 "2015-08-16T13:56:27Z")
Vote Sario For reasons, see Biotop’s post 1168, plus: Lynch the Loud doesn’t work, let’s Lynch the Lurker. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1183 "2015-08-16T15:11:12Z")
> [@sangfroid](#): > > I’m still hearing the ghost of **Chronos** on the breeze for some reason, though. What does this mean? It’s probably me, but I’m having a very difficult time understanding exactly what you have to say about **TexCat**. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1184 "2015-08-16T15:19:05Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Vote Sario > > For reasons, see Biotop’s post 1168, plus: Lynch the Loud doesn’t work, let’s Lynch the Lurker. Well, neither of them work especially well as blanket policies, since the wolves are reading this thread same as anybody else. Just to state something that is obvious – **Biotop** (or any other given player) is not guaranteed to be Town, or to be right if he is Town. And even if he is Town, and is right, about any particular opinion, if you don’t have any independent commentary other than his about anything, how am I or any other Town player supposed to make any evaluation of what your motivations are? I mean, you’ve been super straightforward about the fact that you’re following the crowd and taking other people’s leads on these things, so I’m certainly not about to accuse you of sneaking it past anyone. But I wonder if you understand the extent to which it’s equally straightforward that such a policy of following along is anti-Town. How on earth am I supposed to determine whether or not you’re a wolf under those circumstances? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1185 "2015-08-16T15:26:53Z")
Good point. Last night I attempted to analyze Precambrianmollusc’s posts, after Biotop’s and Thing Fish’s models. This is as far as I got: \*\* The Professor’s Attempted Analysis on Precambrianmullusc (or, Why I Only Post A Few Lines At A Time Explained).\*\* Post 32 (pre-game): > [@](#): > > Maybe set up an unspoiled peanut gallery thread for non players to follow along , and dead players to continue drinking, I always like following along afterwards unspoiled . > We always used to have one and can help those interested but not willing to jump in yet to talk about stuff without getting lynched. > > I know that is how I got started , and was persuaded / abused by our dear departed Peker to play for real , then jumped into a conspiracy game and was lynched first day . There it is. He was lynched the first day of his first game, and since then he has craved Revenge! \*Pause while Madame P. shares an “amusing” e-mail she received. \* Posts 64ff. Jokes pre-game about lynching Chronos, and Johnny Bravo, but mostly Chronos. Post 74 Septimus votes Precambrianmollusc in pre-game. Did he know something we don’t? _Pause while Daughter P. shares a lovely drawing she spent 2 hours on. She is a commercial artist._ **Pause while I get art supplies for Madame P., who is handicapped and cannot get them for herself.** Post 82 Precambrianmollusc (hereafter P’mollusc) states he received his PM. Post 99 P’mollusc begins his Thread of Doubt about The Plan to use the tie-breaking mechanism to find out who are the wolves, which continues in Post 102. Post 103 > [@](#): > > Although these discussions of all the various permutations are useful Aha! Covering his tracks. _Pause while I check on dinner. Oh, look, the stove isn’t working… Lengthy delay._ Post 107 > [@](#): > > Probably one of the best things that would come out of the discussion around the actual result of a tie lynch would be a wolf being caught with perfect information during the discussion Well, Amen to that. Post 135 > [@](#): > > Agree and highly suspicious of those saying scum would avoid engineering a tie , a tie gives no accountability for votes , scum has the most information out of a tie and the mechanism has the most " get out of explaining why a town got lynched because of a tie " excuses for scum. I am pretty sure a tie is bad for town and preemptivly assigning scummy behavior to avoiding a tie is , well kind of scum like. So big stinky Finger Of Suspicion (FOS) to those smudging that avoiding a tie is pro scum _Pause while trying to fix the stove._ Right, where was I? Okay, so, P’mollusc’s been opposed to The Plan from the start, but so was Mahaloth, and he was Town. No sense digging deeper into that. Then a long spell with few posts because he’s moving and digging through boxes. I’ve been there. _Oh, what’s that, Madame P.? A cute cat video? No thanks._ Post 411. (Didn’t participate in the self-vote for The Plan, but so what?) Color on votes omitted to make life easier for storyteller. > [@](#): > > Bayard – no idea > Biotop - leaning town re the whole tie break analysis > Chronos – leaning town for the tie break analysis, then again he has been on it from day one, for him to be scum we would have to assume he saw from the outset the tie break mechanism was beneficial to scum hence pushed it. Obviously he is an experienced and smart player, my feeling would be if he were a wolf he would not have pushed so hard early without knowing or thorough all the permutations . > Cygnus42 > Dante G - the whole tipping hand thing, seams scummy. > DiggitCamara > Jimmy Chitwood > Johnny Bravo > Jsexton think their objection to the coordinated lynch comes more form a ‘play the game; perspective rather than a would trying to stop the coordination > Mahaloth– not sure > Nonsuch > Plumpudding -Seams to be a bit all over the place , throwing a lot of accusations out there, their reasoning may be bad, but I think it’s a genuine attempt to hunt for scum > Precambrianmollusc 13 the towniest town person you could ever hope to meet. > Prof. Pepperwinkle maintaining low profile > sangfroid kind of smudging those ( I think he was aiming at Chronos and Texcat) by calling the disagreements a wolf fight > Sario > septimus I agree with post 360 – scum can screw with us and get mis lynch and things rapidly go sideways, sure we get a would, but we lose the masons pretty quickly, then again like texcat, I can see it as a scum move , depends on motivation, which we cant know > Texcat had I have pretty much agreed from night zero that the coordinated lync is problematic to town. I could see a wolf not liking the scheme, I know I don’t but then , I know I am town, I don’t know what tex cat is. Slight scum lean for now > Thing - lots of discussion > > I think I will vote > > vote sangfroid That’s insightful. Does it provide us with clues? I can’t tell. Post 423 > [@](#): > > I don’t know if there has ever not been a lynch, probably not intentionally by town, a no lynch is terribly bad for town as we don’t get information. > > There have been multiple lynch mechanisms, I think there have been thresholds, first pass the post, hammer ( after X votes a short countdown starts) Borda counts ( we tried it in a terminator themed game) and all sorts. What do these terms mean? Post 658: Belated vote for Plumpudding because he’s moved to a new time zone and missed the bar. Understandable. _Grandson interrupts me for help with his supper._ **Madame P needs me to sort her medicine, then it’s family time** It is truly amazing to me how they know when I’m trying to do something like this. And no, working at other times doesn’t help. ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1186 "2015-08-16T15:44:09Z")
> [@sangfroid](#): > > 😃 > > I don’t often use “LOL”, but I certainly did at that! Thanks for the laugh, **Bio**. > > Yep, pretty much describes me in a nutshell… > > First, thanks for all your hard work and analysis, **Bio**. I really suck at that sort of thing. Any time I’ve attempted it, it seems I just end up confusing everyone in the process. > > Second, you’re correct in your (leaning toward) Town assumption, as I too just want to win for our dearly departed comrades. Means nothing in and of itself, of course, but you deserve a hearty pat on the back for your efforts. > > Third, all I can say at the moment is that I am understandably wary of anyone who tossed my name out there just to see if it would stick - an easy lynch, maybe - a minimal poster easily dismissed as no great loss if done so “accidentally”. Oops. > > **Dante** being a notable exception to those who named me. Not sure why, but even though he tagged me early on, I never voted him, even when the pile-on started. Something just didn’t feel right. I _was_ ready to pile on **Cat** , though, as were quite a few others until the reveal by the Seer. > > That whole sequence of events still bugs me too. The seer investigated **Cat** for a reason(s), as noted elsewhere. I’m willing to give **Cat** a pass for now if that’s how the rest of you feel about it, and it seems that’s how it’s going to play out for the time being. > > I’m still hearing the ghost of **Chronos** on the breeze for some reason, though. > > Regarding toDay’s vote, I need to keep rereading for a bit and decide. **Bio** and **Thing** have made some good points and put quite a bit of effort into sorting information out and I want to give it all due diligence. Another post from Sangfroid with a lot of words, but zero content. Perhaps it’s time for everyone to list their top 3 or 4 suspects? My top 3 are Plum, Sangfroid, Sario. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1187 "2015-08-16T15:49:36Z")
But **Prof. Pepperwinkle** , (and I mean this as a friendly post from someone who still thinks you are town), you have had time to post in nearly every other thread on the Thread Games page this morning. This game _does_ take time, and my wife is a bit pissed at me for playing too much, so I have curtailed a few other recreational activities to keep my commitment here. Just me thinking you are town is not enough to convince everyone (or really anyone) else. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1188 "2015-08-16T16:32:09Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > But **Prof. Pepperwinkle** , (and I mean this as a friendly post from someone who still thinks you are town), you have had time to post in nearly every other thread on the Thread Games page this morning. This game _does_ take time, and my wife is a bit pissed at me for playing too much, so I have curtailed a few other recreational activities to keep my commitment here. Just me thinking you are town is not enough to convince everyone (or really anyone) else. The difference is that posting in other threads takes a minute or less a post. If I’m interrupted (and I am) it doesn’t matter. This one takes a sizable block of time to do it right. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1189 "2015-08-16T22:09:52Z")
Lunchtime at the mill: I came to the breakroom hoping to read a bunch of posts. Arrgh! [NAG]Okay, I give up asking. But if players are not going to hunt scum, can they at least vote. It might help me decide who to vote for myself. Thanks. [/NAG] ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1190 "2015-08-16T23:21:50Z")
Hey, might as well be frank about it. We’re fucked and going to lose almost by default, at this rate. There’s 4 wolves left and our vote leader has 3 votes. They’d have to be pretty bloody stupid to get caught that way. ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1191 "2015-08-17T00:16:37Z")
The problem is that scum does not like to vote early. They want to wait and see. If a wolf has an overwhelming vote, they’ll pile on at the last minute to look townie. If it’s close, they can vote for town. If a townie has an overwhelming vote, they can place a one off on another wolf. Voting late gives them the best options. \*\*unvote Plum vote Sangfroid \*\* Sangfroid has posted a few times, but never voiced an opinion of anyone, except for a few vague suspicions of me. I might go for Sario instead, but it looks like Sario has gone AWOL. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1192 "2015-08-17T01:06:44Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > \*\*unvote Plum > vote Sangfroid \*\* > > Sangfroid has posted a few times, but never voiced an opinion of anyone, except for a few vague suspicions of me. That’s true. Why not **Plum** anymore, though? ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1193 "2015-08-17T02:09:57Z")
Checking in. I agree that it doesn’t bode at all well that almost half our players haven’t voted with fifteen hours to go. I don’t think I need to respond directly to any of **Plumpudding’s** reply to me. My vote is on him because he did a number of very pro-scum things on day one, and pretty much all he’s done is restated the reasons for these things that he gave at the time. It’s certainly possible that he’s Town and just coincidentally happened to make a lot of bad decisions in succession, but I think that would be quite a coincidence. I agree with\*\* Jimmy Chitwood\*\* that the interaction with\*\* JSexton\*\* around 845-850 seems oddly lifeless and could certainly be two scum wanting to get criticism of each other on the record. **Biotop** , the only point I would make about your summary of me is that my suspicions of **Cygnus** were expressed before **Bayard’s read on TexCat**. Now that we know (hope) **TexCat** is town, I agree that **Cygnus** probably is too. It does seem that \*\*JSexton **said quite a few nice things about me…of course this is a scum tactic known as snuggling. Since** JSexton \*\*is dead, those statements now make me look suspicious, whereas if I had died first, they would have made \*\*JSexton \*\*look good. On that note, I’m a little worried that **Nonsuch** is now swearing to my towniness. I don’t have much of a read one way or the other on **precambrianmollusc** , but as I said before, I don’t see that the idea he is now getting votes for was so horribly anti-town. Well, I’'ll check back tomorrow morning. Hopefully there will be more votes then. ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1194 "2015-08-17T02:42:44Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > That’s true. Why not **Plum** anymore, though? It’s not because Plum looks less scummy. The lack of votes is making me nervous. If Plum were scum, I’d have expected a more vigorous counterwagon. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1195 "2015-08-17T03:25:31Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > It’s not because Plum looks less scummy. The lack of votes is making me nervous. If Plum were scum, I’d have expected a more vigorous counterwagon. I will be voting shortly. I just can’t see **Plumpudding** slyly copying post #50 or changing the text on his PM to fool us. That’s not the player we have gotten to know in this game. At least, I sure don’t think so. **Sangfroid** …well you could be right. I will reread a bit and see if my opinion changes. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1196 "2015-08-17T04:26:02Z")
Pretty discouraging that **Cygnus42** has posted fewer times than storyteller in this game. C’mon **Cygnus42** , you are town _aren’t you_?! I could call out the other three players who have all posted less than **Chronos** , a loyal mason who friggin’ _died the first Night_…but I am guessing it would do no good. So I am trying to figure out how to “lynch the lurker” and kill a wolf at the same time. So let me look at some _less than active_ posters who I think have a good shot at also being wolf. Hmmmm… **Sangfroid** has actually posted less times than **Sario** , though some of **Sario** ’s post were pre-game and should not count in his favor. **DiggitCamara** has not been exactly prolific. All these are good candidates. Hmmm… **Johnny Bravo** is not really lighting up the boards either. Hmmm… Okay **TexCat,** you know what? I can buy that\*\* JSexton\*\*'s comment #752 against **Sangfroid** was an example of wolf throwing just a bit of suspicion on another wolf without really meaning it. I just searched but never found any time **Sangfroid** even bothered to respond back to **JSexton** … One reason you don’t respond to criticism is because you know\* “he didn’t really mean it!”\* So while I would like to vote for **Sario** because he seems to have abandoned the game, I will instead back you up. Good choice. Vote Sangfroid … who actually has the fewest post count of any active (or deceased!) player except for **Cygnus42**. A lot to lie awake and think about. I have to work early and long at the mill tomorrow and therefore will probably miss End of Day unless I can sneak into the breakroom close to noon. ---
**Author:** ![sangfroid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@sangfroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sangfroid)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1197 "2015-08-17T04:59:39Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > The problem is that scum does not like to vote early. They want to wait and see. If a wolf has an overwhelming vote, they’ll pile on at the last minute to look townie. If it’s close, they can vote for town. If a townie has an overwhelming vote, they can place a one off on another wolf. Voting late gives them the best options. > > \*\*unvote Plum > vote Sangfroid \*\* > > Sangfroid has posted a few times, but never voiced an opinion of anyone, except for a few vague suspicions of me. > I might go for Sario instead, but it looks like Sario has gone AWOL. Thank you, **Tex**. I’ve been waiting ever so patiently for you to pick up where you left off. You want some meat from me, eh? Most wolves do. To those who say “no way Town could correctly tag two wolves in succession” early in the game (our only two investigations, and I agree it does seem implausible,) I say “not so fast”. Only about as implausible as Town losing our Guardian, a Mason and our Seer, right off the bat? Just that kind of game, I guess. To the Town: My issue(s) with **Cat** _partly_ revolves around attacks directed at me for reasons that mostly add up to: “I don’t like how often you post.” and “You don’t say much.” I will state firmly again, for-what-it-is-worth-and-I-know-it-ain’t-much, **I am Town**. Vanilla and a little cryptic and/or dense sometimes, but Town nonetheless. So, looks like meat’s back on the menu… I think **Cat** is Alpha, I think **Mollusc** and quite possibly **Plum** are in cahoots, and I think **Sario** did indeed check out of the game starting around 410, and should not be lynched for no other reason than we cannot afford to waste another Day as well as lose another Townsperson just for disengagement. Can’t afford it at this stage of this game. I’ve already offered myself up for the sake of MY Town. I stand by that commitment, and if my lynch serves a noble purpose, perhaps there is still hope. Is that enough content for you and your fellow wolves, **Cat**? For those willing to go along with **Cat** , knock yourself out, and I will join the ranks of the _Other Thread_ knowing that at least one wolf will go next. Your move, **Tex**. I’m willing to die for my allegiance. Are you willing to die for yours? vote TexCat ---
**Author:** ![sangfroid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@sangfroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sangfroid)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1198 "2015-08-17T05:04:06Z")
ETA: No worries, **Bio**. Keep your vote for me if you feel it will help our Town. Just be sure to put the cross-hairs where they belong after it’s revealed I am Town. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1199 "2015-08-17T10:44:28Z")
**Sangfroid** : If **Plumpudding** and **TexCat** are on the same wolf team, then they may deserve to win. 🙂 That said, after lying awake half rhe night, I have reconsidered. Unvote Sangfroid Vote Sario ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1200 "2015-08-17T11:01:40Z")
And storyteller, could we get an official vote count again? As I said earlier, I will be at work all day, and if I do have time to check the game I’d like a pretty good idea where we stand in case I want quickly to flip flop again. I can post a lot, but decisions do not come easy for me and this may be the most critical vote of the entire game. Thanks. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099.md?page=59) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099.md?page=61)