# MAFIA: The Game - Ideal for Beginners \[Game in Progress\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [July 14, 2015, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099 "2015-07-14T00:45:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1421 "2015-08-24T15:21:18Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> This is persuasive, and I think there’s strength in coming closer to a consensus as compared to yet another near-tie. Based on this reasoning, **Plum** would tell us more and sooner about whether we’re fucking up. Turns out this is the answer to your question about what it would take to get me to vote him.
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> **Vote Plumpudding**

Jimmy, I’ve told you for two days that lynching me would be fucking up. I see I’m the favourite, and as it’s closing in on the EOD I guess I’ll go down. I think you guys will get some info out of this, but it will bring town down two players. Lets hope it’s worth it.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1422 "2015-08-24T15:22:01Z")

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> [@Plumpudding](#):
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> This is wrong.
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> So the opposite of what you are saying here. After Chronos posted the logical conclusion to the tie-breaker plan, I felt pretty sure he was town.

You are right, my mistake.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1423 "2015-08-24T15:25:35Z")

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> [@Precambrianmollusc](#):
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> Bayard – no idea  
> Biotop - leaning town re the whole tie break analysis  
> Chronos – leaning town for the tie break analysis, then again he has been on it from day one, for him to be scum we would have to assume he saw from the outset the tie break mechanism was beneficial to scum hence pushed it. Obviously he is an experienced and smart player, my feeling would be if he were a wolf he would not have pushed so hard early without knowing or thorough all the permutations .  
> Cygnus42  
> Dante G - the whole tipping hand thing, seams scummy.  
> DiggitCamara  
> Jimmy Chitwood  
> Johnny Bravo  
> Jsexton think their objection to the coordinated lynch comes more form a ‘play the game; perspective rather than a would trying to stop the coordination  
> Mahaloth– not sure  
> Nonsuch  
> Plumpudding -Seams to be a bit all over the place , throwing a lot of accusations out there, their reasoning may be bad, but I think it’s a genuine attempt to hunt for scum  
> Precambrianmollusc 13 the towniest town person you could ever hope to meet.  
> Prof. Pepperwinkle maintaining low profile  
> sangfroid kind of smudging those ( I think he was aiming at Chronos and Texcat) by calling the disagreements a wolf fight  
> Sario  
> septimus I agree with post 360 – scum can screw with us and get mis lynch and things rapidly go sideways, sure we get a would, but we lose the masons pretty quickly, then again like texcat, I can see it as a scum move , depends on motivation, which we cant know  
> Texcat had I have pretty much agreed from night zero that the coordinated lync is problematic to town. I could see a wolf not liking the scheme, I know I don’t but then , I know I am town, I don’t know what tex cat is. Slight scum lean for now  
> Thing - lots of discussion

Not sure what **sangfroid** is getting at (as per usual) but what I notice about this post is that he isn’t saying anything at all about four of my other five possible wolves, is calling the other one (**Plumpudding)** town, and seems to be leaning town on \*\*JSexton \*\*while saying nothing about **Sario**. Certainly easy to interpret as scummy.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1424 "2015-08-24T15:27:09Z")

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Well, looks like I’m going to get what I asked for. Hope to hell I’m right.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1425 "2015-08-24T15:30:09Z")

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Still 30 minutes to change our minds.

Ayone else really troubled by the theory that **Plumpudding** posted a fake PM. Because that just doesn’t seem his style at all.

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**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1426 "2015-08-24T15:31:11Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
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> [Snip] I cannot figure out why more wolves did not jump on the easy case against **Plum** if he is town.

This has been my question as well. I cannot for the life of me see why I wasn’t jumped on yesterDay, as I was clearly the best target.

> [@Biotop](#):
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> I think we learn more from finding out about **Plum** then **Diggit**.[Snip]

Maybe, maybe not. I would be careful about who to assign blame for my lynch. To me, some are a better bet of being town than others. I think both **Jimmy Chitwood** and **Thing Fish** are town, or amazing scum. I think you are town, **Biotop** , toghether with \*\*Cygnus42 \*\*and **Prof. Pepperwinkle**. I think I’m less sure about the **Prof**. than the others in this group. I have gotten a general town read from **Nonsuch** , but he hasn’t posted enough for me to be sure.

Right now, I believe \*\*DiggitCamara \*\*is a wolf. The rest I’m unsure about, and could go either way for all I know.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1427 "2015-08-24T15:34:01Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
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> Still 30 minutes to change our minds.
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> Ayone else really troubled by the theory that **Plumpudding** posted a fake PM. Because that just doesn’t seem his style at all.

Of the many thousands of things I am troubled by, this is not one… so there’s that, I guess. If he’s a wolf, of course he’s lying.

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**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1428 "2015-08-24T15:39:21Z")

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> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> Well, looks like I’m going to get what I asked for. Hope to hell I’m right.

You’re not right.

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1429 "2015-08-24T16:00:20Z")

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> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> Not sure what **sangfroid** is getting at (as per usual) but what I notice about this post is that he isn’t saying anything at all about four of my other five possible wolves, is calling the other one (**Plumpudding)** town, and seems to be leaning town on \*\*JSexton \*\*while saying nothing about **Sario**. Certainly easy to interpret as scummy.

Of course it should be noted that post was made way back, there wasn’t much to go on for the others or I didn’t have a strong read either way.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1430 "2015-08-24T16:01:04Z")

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Now begins the compulsive refreshing.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1431 "2015-08-24T16:01:58Z")

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Anyone want to bet Storyteller’s been just called away into a meeting?

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1432 "2015-08-24T16:02:32Z")

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His light’s green.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1433 "2015-08-24T16:05:20Z")

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I don’t know if I can ever play this game again. It is just too exhausting.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1434 "2015-08-24T16:07:24Z")

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Yeah, but you’re good at it. I’m tired and I suck at it.

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**Author:** ![sangfroid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@sangfroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sangfroid)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1435 "2015-08-24T16:28:01Z")

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Just checking in…

…and waiting with bated? baited? breath.  
Must be a thread about that here on the SD \*“Proud Home of the Grammer Pedants”\*® somewhere…  
😛

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1436 "2015-08-24T16:30:49Z")

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I sure hope I am excited and exhilerated. Come on\*\* Plum,\*\* please be scum.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1437 "2015-08-24T16:31:03Z")

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His light ain’t green.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1438 "2015-08-24T16:31:59Z")

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It’s “bated breath”.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1439 "2015-08-24T16:38:35Z")

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[Well at least I learned something today](http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/bated-breath.html).

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1440 "2015-08-24T16:42:15Z")

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**Day is over; Dusk is forthcoming.**

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