# MAFIA: The Game - Ideal for Beginners \[Game in Progress\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [July 14, 2015, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099 "2015-07-14T00:45:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1561 "2015-08-31T12:30:36Z")

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So I’m on the chopping block whether or not Diggit comes up wolf, even though I attempted to get him lynched before toDay?

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1562 "2015-08-31T13:02:55Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> So I’m on the chopping block whether or not Diggit comes up wolf, even though I attempted to get him lynched before toDay?

**Johnny Bravo** :

I am only one vote, and if I am night killed, then I am zero votes. So if you are town, please tell us why we should believe that and who you think are the wolves.

Not a single vote has been cast for toMorrow and toDay is not even over.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1563 "2015-08-31T14:16:42Z")

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I just get leery of plans that are plotted out several days in advance, even though I know your intentions are good.

If **Diggit** ends up being town, then I’m understandably screwed (as are we all, most likely), but if he’s wolf I hope people will keep in mind that I tried to get him lynched yesterDay, when a positive lynch would have been incredibly valuable for town (as opposed to today when it’s much more critical).

I guess the question proponents of the “Johnny and Diggit are both wolves” theory have to ask is whether it made sense for ‘Wolf Johnny’ to vote for him so early yesterDay, before even seeing which way the wind was blowing.

> [@Biotop](#):
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> I am only one vote, and if I am night killed, then I am zero votes. So if you are town, please tell us why we should believe that and who you think are the wolves.

Your influence is much more outsized than that, dead or alive, as I’m sure you’re aware.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1564 "2015-08-31T14:33:11Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> If **Diggit** ends up being town, then I’m understandably screwed (as are we all, most likely), but if he’s wolf I hope people will keep in mind that I tried to get him lynched yesterDay, when a positive lynch would have been incredibly valuable for town (as opposed to today when it’s much more critical).

No you didn’t. You voted for him, said you were doing so because **Thing Fish** had convinced you, then talked up **Thing Fish** ’s case against **Plum** , too.

You also promised a reread to evaluate the case against **Plum** , and didn’t return to the issue.

For my money, if you’re going to hang your hat on the fact that you were trying to get someone lynched, you need a little more than the fact that you voted while explicitly giving credit for the case to another (and a Town) player. You didn’t exactly put yourself out there to convince anyone to move their votes.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1565 "2015-08-31T14:42:12Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> Your influence is much more outsized than that, dead or alive, as I’m sure you’re aware.

But it should not be. I am town and can read. So can others. I have not hesitated to post, that’s for sure. But I know nothing for certain any more than anybody else who is not wolf. I do have the advantage that people KNOW I am town right now. We also know eight other players who were also town and their opinions still matter quite a lot because they were playing for town.

We also know the two wolves who were lying in one way or another.

Heck, wolves kept choosing not to kill me for some reason, so I have tried to take advantage of that as best as I can for town. But I am a first-timer who is just guessing. No one should ever forget that. If you are town and have other ideas, by all means share them. I’d rather win than be right.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1566 "2015-08-31T15:24:13Z")

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**DiggitCamara** :

If you are town please use your remaining time to tell us who you think are the wolves. I keep repeating the obvious, but if you are town we (and you) can still win if we pick the remaining wolves. If you are lynched and it is revealed you are town then people will obviously pay a lot of attention to your post toMorrow.

**septimus, Chronos, Dante G., Mahaloth, Bayard, TexCat, Plumpudding, and Thing Fish** — they deserve every remaining Town member’s best fight until the end.

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**Author:** ![Cygnus42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Cygnus42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cygnus42)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1567 "2015-08-31T16:19:55Z")

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And now…the waiting…

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1568 "2015-08-31T16:30:15Z")

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I do find myself wondering if Biotop would have done so much work and devoted so much time to the game if he hadn’t been First Mason.

I’d like to think so.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1569 "2015-08-31T16:31:52Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> I do find myself wondering if Biotop would have done so much work and devoted so much time to the game if he hadn’t been First Mason.
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> I’d like to think so.

Well it sure gives an advantage at the start knowing two other players you can trust immediately.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1570 "2015-08-31T16:33:55Z")

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Maybe so, but with the Wolves’ luck you didn’t get to count on them for long.

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1571 "2015-08-31T19:25:36Z")

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Starts drinking heavily.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1572 "2015-08-31T19:42:22Z")

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> [@Precambrianmollusc](#):
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> Starts drinking heavily.

For once I may have to agree with you. Where’s the mead?

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1573 "2015-08-31T20:47:04Z")

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**DUSK**

_The circle narrows; the end draws near. Eight remain; one fewer attendee at the Town Hall, but no fewer genuine human beings._

**DiggitCamara** , a Werewolf, has been lynched.

* * *

Hats off to Town for a good lynch. The Night begins now and will end at noon or thereabouts on Wednesday, September 2.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1574 "2015-08-31T20:47:51Z")

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you’re god damned right

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1575 "2015-08-31T20:50:51Z")

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[We got one!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Oqmdbs1NcNY/maxresdefault.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Cygnus42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Cygnus42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cygnus42)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1576 "2015-08-31T20:51:12Z")

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Excellent…glad I checked one more time before heading out.

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1577 "2015-08-31T20:52:00Z")

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Ha —two to go!

**Biotop** : Holy crap!

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1578 "2015-08-31T20:53:01Z")

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“Lynch the lurker” works again. Hooray!

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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1579 "2015-08-31T20:59:20Z")

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I said it before, I say it again: Bah, Humbug!

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**Author:** ![sangfroid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@sangfroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sangfroid)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-ideal-for-beginners-game-in-progress/725099/1580 "2015-08-31T21:41:20Z")

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> [@DiggitCamara](#):
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> I said it before, I say it again: Bah, Humbug!

_“If I could work my will, everyone who goes about with ‘Bah! Humbug!’ on his lips should be boiled in his own pudding, and buried with a stake of holly through his heart.”_  
😃

Just kiddin’, **Digs**. Way to survive so late into the game.

Still a nail-biter…

And… YAY!

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