# Mafia The Game III: Kinder and Gentler

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 17, 2007, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527 "2007-04-17T21:34:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/541 "2007-04-23T17:53:21Z")

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> If the sun comes up in the morning and we’re all here for breakfast, will we know why no one was killed? Whether the doc or night watchman interfered?
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> Or will it just remain a mystery until the after-game epilogue?

It’ll remain a mystery.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/542 "2007-04-23T17:57:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Blaster Master]  
If no one dies, we get nothing. That is, we won’t know if it was the night watchman, the doctor, a conversion, or no murder–though I can’t see the last one ever happening.  
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I didn’t think the last one was an option. My understanding is that they _have_ to do something every night.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/543 "2007-04-23T18:00:25Z")

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> I didn’t think the last one was an option. My understanding is that they have to do something every night.

The Mafia may choose not to kill during the night. That’s the way it’s been in the last couple of games; let me review the rules as I’ve given them to see if it’s expressed with sufficient clarity here.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/544 "2007-04-23T18:02:02Z")

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From the Roles:

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> By night [the Mafia] convene to decide who, if anyone, they will kill.

Yeah, I think that’s clear enough.

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**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/545 "2007-04-23T18:29:49Z")

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If the Mafia try to recruit a doogooder, or get doctor blocked, or night watchman blocked, do they know what happened?

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/546 "2007-04-23T18:49:30Z")

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> If the Mafia try to recruit a doogooder, or get doctor blocked, or night watchman blocked, do they know what happened?

If the Mafia try to recruit someone and fail, there’s only one possible explanation: the target is a Do-Gooder.

If the Mafia try to kill someone and are blocked by the Doctor, they learn of their failure when I post in this thread that no one was killed the night before. Ditto the Night Watchman.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/547 "2007-04-23T19:08:24Z")

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That sucks **percypercy** , sorry to see you go. : /

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/548 "2007-04-23T19:09:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Gadarene]  
From the Roles:

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> By night [the Mafia] convene to decide who, if anyone, they will kill.

Yeah, I think that’s clear enough.  
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Yep. I read right over that.

Twice.

\<Gibbs smack to the back of the head\>

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**Author:** ![tirial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@tirial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tirial)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/549 "2007-04-23T20:20:59Z")

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Please can nighttime get over and done with? I’m sitting here (with my empty bottle) hitting refresh every now and then…

[Quote=Gadarene]  
6) Nights will last 48 hours. Nights may end early once all night-time instructions have been submitted.  
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Two days?! I can’t wait two days. I can’t take the tension for that long.

Please tell me I’m not the only one who keeps checking back to this thread just in case something’s happened.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/550 "2007-04-23T20:26:40Z")

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Nope, not the only one.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/551 "2007-04-23T20:54:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Idle Thoughts]  
Nope, not the only one.  
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Definitely not the only one.

Of course, it’s either hitting f5 over and over to refresh the page, or actually get some, you know, _work_ done here at the office.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/552 "2007-04-23T21:00:29Z")

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_Speed_ Mafia, that’s what we need! Where days last two hours and nights are 30 minutes!

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/553 "2007-04-23T21:10:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Hal Briston]  
_Speed_ Mafia, that’s what we need! Where days last two hours and nights are 30 minutes!  
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But…but…I like sleeping…

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/554 "2007-04-23T21:22:14Z")

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[QUOTE=fluiddruid]  
But…but…I like sleeping…  
[/QUOTE]  
In Speed Mafia, that’s what’s known as a “scum tell”.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/555 "2007-04-23T21:27:11Z")

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> In Speed Mafia, that’s what’s known as a “scum tell”.

😃😃😃

Still waiting on one or more instructions, by the way.

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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/556 "2007-04-23T21:42:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Gadarene]  
😃😃😃

Still waiting on one or more instructions, by the way.  
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A-HA!! I know I’m not the first, but SCUM TELL AND FOS-\>GADARENE

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/557 "2007-04-23T21:46:43Z")

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They tried that in the other game, and it turned out I was a vanilla townie. Just sayin’. 😛

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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/558 "2007-04-23T21:51:35Z")

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\<N\>  
\>\>You enter the BAR.  
\>\>You see:  
\>\>Several people, looking despondent and drinking heavily.  
\>Look  
\>\>You see:  
\>\> A bar  
\>\> Several people, looking despondent (and drunk)  
\>\> A handful of people, trying to hide their grins  
\>\> A jukebox  
\>Go to jukebox  
\>\> You’re standing near a jukebox, in a bar  
\>Play jukebox  
\>\> You haven’t inserted a coin!!!  
\>Insert coin  
\>\> Where??  
\>Insert coin into jukebox  
\>\>The jukebox starts playing a familiar song  
\>Identify song  
\>\>The song seems familar…  
\>\>It’s [unexpectedly appropiate!!](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_Chicago_Died)

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**Author:** ![SnakesCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@SnakesCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakesCatLady)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/559 "2007-04-23T21:57:50Z")

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Bartender? Another margarita, please, and do you have any catnip?

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**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/560 "2007-04-23T22:06:22Z")

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I hope that’s not the cold hand of death I feel on my shoulder.

Oh, it’s a cat.

Nice kitty, go bite the bad guys if you would be so kind. Also, scratch out their eyes.

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