# Mafia The Game III: Kinder and Gentler **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 17, 2007, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527 "2007-04-17T21:34:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/861 "2007-04-30T17:39:04Z")
[QUOTE=CaerieD] There’s one small consolation: At least you didn’t come back _dead_. [/QUOTE] But… how can we be _certain_? Being a zombie is a scum tell! ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/862 "2007-04-30T17:51:26Z")
Perfect! Being scummy is a zombie tell as well. ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/863 "2007-04-30T19:15:29Z")
So is smelling of hard liquor! (you never know how they preserve bodies these days, after all.) Actually, now that I think about it almost _anything_ could be a zombie tell! Mm, mafia brains… (they taste the best, obviously.) ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/864 "2007-04-30T19:53:47Z")
Time always seems to slow down to a crawl when it’s night. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/865 "2007-04-30T20:59:01Z")
[QUOTE=Idle Thoughts] Time always seems to slow down to a crawl when it’s night. [/QUOTE] Yeah, too bad we don’t have a player capable of going after Mafia members with a sword or something while it’s night. Because, of course, time flies when you’re halving scum. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/866 "2007-04-30T21:11:57Z")
OOoohhh!! Nasty! Horrid puns are a **major** scum tell. Or at least they should be!! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![SnakesCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@SnakesCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakesCatLady)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/867 "2007-04-30T21:19:35Z")
**Hal** , you’re going to drive me to drink. Hey, any excuse will do - Bartender? ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/868 "2007-04-30T21:29:57Z")
Jeez, is it dawn yet? I can’t take this punishment. ---
**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/869 "2007-04-30T21:37:08Z")
I keep coming in here every time I see there’s a new post, hoping, and every time I’m disappointed. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/870 "2007-05-01T00:05:54Z")
Yeah. Stop posting, y’idgits! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Millit\_the\_Frail](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@Millit\_the\_Frail](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Millit_the_Frail)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/871 "2007-05-01T02:16:19Z")
The suspense! It’s KILLING ME! At least it’s not the Mafia. Yet. Gulp. I’d rather die of suspense than by Mafia. F5…F5…F5…It’s hard to relax when it’s _someone’s_ final hour, you know?? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/872 "2007-05-01T03:31:32Z")
(No time for a long post, so I’ll have to make this pithy.) _The day has dawned. The townspeople approach the village green. There you find a tinny recording repeating the words, “God save strawberry jam and all the different varieties,” again and again. There you also find **Kyrie Eleison** , stabbed through the heart with a sharpened deerstalker, magnifying glass clutched uselessly in his hand._ **Kyrie Eleison** , the Detective, is dead. The day ends Friday evening at 11:30 p.m. my time. ---
**Author:** ![SnakesCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@SnakesCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakesCatLady)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/873 "2007-05-01T03:33:24Z")
Well, crap! Sorry, **Kyrie** , you’ll be missed. ---
**Author:** ![Kyrie\_Eleison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kyrie_eleison/32/7682_2.png) [@Kyrie\_Eleison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyrie_Eleison)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/874 "2007-05-01T03:41:51Z")
Bah. Go town! ---
**Author:** ![Millit\_the\_Frail](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@Millit\_the\_Frail](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Millit_the_Frail)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/875 "2007-05-01T03:54:00Z")
Noooo! RIP, intrepid Detective. ☹ I’m getting started early today. I think **Kyrie** ’s “Anti-FOS” of **Blaster Master** may have been a breadcrumb, and also that it may have been how the Mafia uncovered him. I’m not saying he did a bad job of hiding his tracks, but that it seems like the Mafia did a very thorough job of rooting him out. It seems likely to me, but maybe that’s just because I don’t think **Blaster** is Mafia. Any other ideas? Last night, after getting back in to town, I read over lots of the posts that were made while I was gone. I’d skimmed them all but wanted to dig a little deeper. I have to say, I’ve been very afraid all day that I’d be killed overnight without getting to post my list of prime scum suspects, so I’m going to do so pretty soon. I need to think and review just a little more, but I’ve got a hunch about a few people, and there’s going to be some 'splainin to do. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/876 "2007-05-01T04:07:53Z")
Oh chit! I’m more inclined to believe it was pure dumb luck. If they’d really suspected him for the detective, they would have recruited. Not sure about the breadcrumb, will have to go back through his posts. Sorry **Kyrie** ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/877 "2007-05-01T04:29:46Z")
Wow, that’s harsh. It must have been a lucky guess. I don’t see how they could have known. Sorry, **Kyrie Eleison**. For the record, I never had any suspicions of you so you played well for the team. All right…well, let’s see what we have here. Two bandwagons last day…one in which I was a part of myself. Looking over the fellow players who voted **dnooman** with me, I like to THINK they weren’t on my meter before (really, none where save for **fluiddruid** ) but damned if I’m not made to rethink things. Looking over at the other bandwagon that was raised against **Projammer** , I’m still highly suspicious of all the same people I was before ( **Millit the Frail** and on a lesser note, **Rachm Qoch** ). But MORE disconcerning is the no lynch votes from the day before. As I said in my first few posts in here, I just don’t and can’t understand why anyone would vote not to lynch anyone. This is the townies time (and only time) to try to pick off a scummy player. I believe that casting a no lynch vote gives up this right and, at the same time, would be a good cover if one were really scum. Not only do you make it harder to feel you out based on your votes and history of voting, but it makes it seem like you’re innocent by not voting for anyone and trying to cast off suspicion. Now **Projammer** I can sort of understand doing this. After all, he was one of the two under scrutiny and didn’t want to make himself look even more shady by casting a vote for, who he thought, was a fellow townie. Whether he **Projammer** IS really pro-town or not, I have no idea. But as of yet, even with the major votes he’s garnered both day rounds, I have yet to see anything suspicious of him. Nothing that’s tripped my radar. **CaerieD** on the other hand I’ve had growing dread over. But I don’t know. I hesitate to vote at all now since my readings of **dnooman** were wrong (although before day is up, I will vote, because, again, voting no-lynch, I think, accomplishes nothing). Guess I’ll sleep for now and go to work reading past posts (again) tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/878 "2007-05-01T04:53:32Z")
It had to be a lucky guess. **Kyrie** was able to ask for 2 reads, but only given the opportunity to leave breadcrumbs for one. I just can’t imagine the scum being able to triangulate his position based on that. And as the town proved on day one of game one, it is possible to get damn lucky with a lynch. ---
**Author:** ![SnakesCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@SnakesCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakesCatLady)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/879 "2007-05-01T05:04:40Z")
I have to say that I am suspicious of **CaerieD** and **Projammer** for voting No Lynch, and for **tirial** and **Omi no Kami** for not voting at all. **Tirial** had voted for **Projammer** and **Ligntnin’** , but unvoted them and did not cast another vote. I have been told that not participating is bad for the town, so I would like to hear why these players aren’t participating. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/880 "2007-05-01T05:12:34Z")
Okay, just went through all of **Kyrie’s** past posts. I found some interesting things. By the 2nd day, he’ll have had info. But the only person he makes any decision about is **fluiddruid** (well, he does also “anti-FOS” **Blaster Master** , but I don’t think that’s too much to go on), first in [post #813](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8514719&postcount=813) where he votes for her…and a few posts later in[post #819](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8514719&postcount=819) where he makes a very, very interesting post. In that post (819) he quotes a post of **Rachel’s** about how, on day one, the votes were first all for **Lightnin’** but switched over to **percypercy** in the 11th hour. She ( **Rachel** ) also wondered if that would be the case here…which it was, only with **dnooman** …which **Kyrie** gives a nod to and takes the moment to say that he’s still sticking with his vote. And, as it turns out, **fluiddruid** was one of the last to put in a vote towards **dnooman**. Could it be that **Kyrie** had checked her out and found out she was scum? Could his vote towards her told the mafia that a (ANY) vote for a true scum might put that person on suspicion for being the Detective? I’ve also been suspicious of **fluiddruid** from the start. So I think NOW I’ll actually keep my word and call it a night and mull things over more…but yeah, interesting things to think about now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527.md?page=43) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527.md?page=45)