# Mafia The Game III: Kinder and Gentler

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 17, 2007, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527 "2007-04-17T21:34:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/121 "2007-04-18T23:00:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Achren]  
Dude, chill. I was lunching and seeing a movie.  
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“Chill”? Well, aren’t you suspiciously familiar with gangland style slang. “Chill” obviously means you intend to have me “put on ice”. Well, I’m on to you, see?

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/122 "2007-04-18T23:15:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Omi no Kami]  
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Oh, by the by Gadarene, are you going to give us guesstimates of the number of scum, or should we go digging through our books about angels dancing on needles to figure out the precise numeric definition of “a handful”? 😉  
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While I’m not **Gadarene** and don’t speak for him, from what I know the number is always kept a secret/mystery (well, unless one is scum, that is).

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**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/123 "2007-04-18T23:17:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Achren]  
I just put in an order for chips and hot sauce myself (mmm, hot sauce). Feel free to have some, if you like.  
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Oh, don’t mind if I do! Maybe if we eat enough spicy food the vampires won’t want to- oh, wait, that was the LAST town I lived in. Ne’er mind.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/124 "2007-04-18T23:18:07Z")

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[QUOTE=NAF1138]  
Not drinking is a scum tell! \*\* FOS Omi no Kami! \*\*  
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And please, for the benefit of us newbie types, please define acronyms and slang the first time they’re used in the board..

“Tell” is fairly obvious.. But FOS? Finger of Shame?

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/125 "2007-04-18T23:19:03Z")

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Suspicion maybe?

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/126 "2007-04-18T23:19:13Z")

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Finger of Suspicion. If I FOS you, I think that you’re suspicious.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/127 "2007-04-18T23:24:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Projammer]  
And please, for the benefit of us newbie types, please define acronyms and slang the first time they’re used in the board..

“Tell” is fairly obvious.. But FOS? Finger of Shame?  
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Asking about the Finger of Suspicion? That gets you a Finger of Suspicion.

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**Author:** ![threnodyangelfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@threnodyangelfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threnodyangelfire)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/128 "2007-04-18T23:25:49Z")

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Im in 🙂 If someone will gently introduce me to the rules. I’m online just about 24/7 so committment is no worries.

Gah ignore me. Post 128? i’m def. not in.

But the committment’s there!!

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/129 "2007-04-18T23:26:47Z")

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Its a public announcment that you don’t like someone, but are not ready to vote for them (for whatever reason). So people can keep track of who you have been wondering about.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/130 "2007-04-18T23:29:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Lemur866]  
When are those bastards going to answer their private messages? I’d put them on my list if I knew who they were.  
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Building a hit list? Now _there’s_ a scum tell…

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**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/131 "2007-04-18T23:47:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Projammer]  
Building a hit list? Now _there’s_ a scum tell…  
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Speaking of which, is anyone else thinking that we depend too much on statistics? It seems like players depending on averages instead of looking for outright suspicious behavior has gotten Town into a whole heap of trouble during the last game.

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**Author:** ![percypercy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@percypercy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/percypercy)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/132 "2007-04-19T00:01:37Z")

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I believe, since we’re all here waiting for the beautiful sunrise, that I’d like a mimosa. Heavy on the booze. I make 'em with just a splash of juice, for the color. Should hit the spot. A could of these and I’ll sleep through til noon.  
-Lil

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/133 "2007-04-19T00:19:56Z")

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Reminds me of the days when I played rec league softball for an Atlanta lesbian bar. We’d play on Sundays, and the first games of the day could start as early as 8am. The problem was that half of the team were employees of the bar. So they were usually up until about 4am restocking and cleaning the bar after a crazy Saturday night spent serving booze to the rest of us, including all of our competition. (It got really interesting if some of my teammates might’ve had to break up any fights involving any members of the opposing teams we happened to be playing that day, but I digress).

The Bloody Marys and Mimosas ran fast and strong in and around the dug-out on those early game days. And despite most of the team running on 3 hours of sleep and being drunk on hair of the dog, we played some damn good ball.

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**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/134 "2007-04-19T00:37:16Z")

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So a state trooper is patroling a backcountry road in the middle of winter, when he comes upon an obviously drunk young man who has gotten his car stuck in a snowbank. When the man spots the cop he jumps into the car, hits the ignition, and begins frantically spinning his wheels in an attempt to escape. The state trooper grins, approaches the car, and begins running in place next to the window.

Needless to say, the young man will be going on about the cop who could run 70kph for years.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/135 "2007-04-19T01:10:43Z")

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[QUOTE=ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]  
Reminds me of the days when I played rec league softball for an Atlanta lesbian bar.  
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A lesbian bar?

What kind of amendments did you have to make to the rules to allow for not having any balls? 😃

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/136 "2007-04-19T02:22:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Projammer]  
Building a hit list? Now _there’s_ a scum tell…  
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Listing scum tells? That’s a scum tell.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/137 "2007-04-19T02:31:44Z")

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Okay, here’s the deal. I want to get this started as much as the rest of you do, but since we’re only one confirmation shy of a full complement and it’s only been a little over a day since **percussion** last checked in here, I’m going to give this until 9:00 a.m. EST tomorrow morning. Is there anyone on the current sub list (this includes you, **threnodyangelfire** ) who’ll be online and available by PM at that time to take over for **percussion** in the event that he or she doesn’t show? That way, we can begin by then at the latest regardless. Sound good?

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/138 "2007-04-19T02:32:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Omi no Kami]  
Speaking of which, is anyone else thinking that we depend too much on statistics? It seems like players depending on averages instead of looking for outright suspicious behavior has gotten Town into a whole heap of trouble during the last game.  
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I did a little reading (and I read the previous thread) and it seems that the odds are with Town based on random chance generally – though, I don’t know what “a handful” means in this context – but, in the end, the skillful players will win. You have to look for the, ahem, “scum tells” more than just playing the odds, though keeping the odds in mind is important to a point.

Fortunately, some of the heavy math involving the Beat Cops won’t come into play in this game!

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/139 "2007-04-19T02:34:04Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Fortunately, some of the heavy math involving the Beat Cops won’t come into play in this game!

Intentionally so. 😉

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**Author:** ![SnakesCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@SnakesCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakesCatLady)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/140 "2007-04-19T02:34:12Z")

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Well, since we won’t be starting until in the morning I’m going to take my margarita and a good book to the bathtub for a soak. See ya’ll in the morning!

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