# Mafia The Game III: Kinder and Gentler **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 17, 2007, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527 "2007-04-17T21:34:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 2427
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527/2427 "2007-06-20T17:15:51Z")
Ok, then. Let’s get this moving again. I was hoping one or the other of the remaining two players would post, giving me a bit more of a hold, but I guess they’d rather wait for my move. I’ve been looking at several angles of the situation. First I tried to find out if there was some way to find out why **Millit** was chosen as the first kill of the Recruit. No dice. And, as far as I know, the Recruit might very well have spotted the post in which **tirial** slipped(?) and pointed out **Millit** , \*\*Blaster Master \*\* and pals might have known before that she was a mason or a number of other reasons. **Hal** , of course, was relatively easy to spot as a mason once **Millit** had been killed so I didn’t even start that line of investigation. I tried to put myself in **Blaster Master** ’s position concerning recruitment options and I can see reasons to recruit both of them. However, I guess at the time **nesta** would have a slight edge, since he’d been “cleared” by **Hal** and his “trap”. I tried to find some kind of variation in their respective posting styles, and/or voting tendencies. **ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies** ( **CTTDSWHC** ) has been consistent and insistent on her votes against me (to the point of voting against me toDay). She seemed to have "[imprinted](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8680778&postcount=2345) " on **tirial** during the day we lynched **Rachm**. > [@CTTDSWHC](#): > > (snip)There was an almost palpable (at least to me) shift in my awareness of her and what she was saying since I returned from getting hitched over Memorial Day weekend. As I was experiencing the “palpableness”, I rationalized it away as likely being due to a suite of non-scummy circumstances. > > ``` > * Fewer players left equals increased prominence of each individual player. > * My attention had been distracted and I was more aware of her because I was more engaged in the game again. > * Some of her observations and analysis were in sync with mine (wrt to Diggit), which has been quite the novelty in this game, and something I couldn't help but notice.(snip) > > ``` And, like I said yesterday, I simply can’t see how her tying vote would have benefitted her position (if she were scum). **nesta** ’s position pre and post-Recruitment has been mostly consistent as well. While we were deciding whom to lynch (between **Blaster Master** and **Rachm** ) he [said](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8636926&postcount=2108) : > [@nesta](#): > > (snip)If I had to vote now I would vote for Blaster Master. As I said earlier, something about him doesn’t seem right. Yes, that’s a bad reason to vote for someone this late in the game, which is why I haven’t voted for him yet. Until today I would have thought that DiggitCamara was a slam dunk, as I just grew more and more convinced of his scuminess, but his actions earlier today cast a lot of doubt on that, and now I really need to go back and figure out if it was tunnel vision that had me convinced he was scum, or if he just managed to act a lot more like a townie today. If I decided Blaster Master isn’t scum and had to cast a vote right then, it would still be for DiggitCamera.(snip) though at the end of that day, he was more [convinced](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8640946&postcount=2159) I was scum. > [@nesta](#): > > (snip)Bah. I’m going to leave my vote where it is. I don’t think Rachm is scum, so I feel like the game is pretty much lost. Oh well. > > There’s still a few minutes for a couple of you to switch over to Diggit with me… There are, however, [two](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8663081&postcount=2286) [posts](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8663187&postcount=2288) during the day we lynched **Blaster Master** that seem to be carefully worded defenses for **Blaster Master** : > [@nesta](#): > > (snip)A lot of my suspicion for Blaster Master started with the way he handled the Kyrie Eleison death and breadcrumb. Millit the Frail nailed some of it in her post she linked to earlier. I think it’s incredibly scummy that he denied so vehemently that fluiddruid was the breadcrumb, but didn’t choose the only other obvious one, which was the anti-FOS of him. Pretty much all his posts about the breadcrumb seem very off to me. > > Combine the way he handled the breadcrumb with his actions the last few (in-game) days, and he feels really scummy to me. I’ll admit I didn’t like the way he went after me yesterday. It feels like he took Hal’s bait and hoped everyone would run with it. > > Unfortunately I ran out of time and didn’t get a chance to look through many of Blaster Master’s posts. I did get through many of DiggitCamara’s, though, hoping to find what is making Hal so convinced he’s town. I’m not seeing it. His actions and posts feel very scummy to me. I would vote for Diggit right now based on what I found, but Hal’s strong conviction has given me pause.(snip) > [@nesta](#): > > (snip)The only way I think you can be so sure of Diggit is if you’re on the same team. I don’t think you were originally scum, but you could be now. You say tirial might have been recruited based on his pushing for Diggit’s lynch, but you’re pushing about as hard as possible for Blaster Master’s. I feel like I could be making a huge mistake even considering taking your word for it that Diggit is town. > > If I vote for Blaster Master, that pretty much seals his fate. If he’s town, we could lose right then if there are two original scum left. Even if there’s only one scum left it puts us in a really bad situation tomorrow. > > I really have to go. I’m already running really late. > > Very well Hal, I’m going to vote Blaster Master. I hope I’m not being suckered here. If he comes up town, though, I’m going to vote for you to the end. > > Goddamnit, I don’t feel good about this at all. I won’t have a chance to find out the results until later tonight. Bah. I should have thought about this before making plans.(snip) The first one, of course is… oddly reminiscent of **Lemur866** ’s careful [defense](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8524694&postcount=912) of fluiddruid on Day 3: > [@Lemur866](#): > > OK, let’s consider that Kyrie fingers fluiddruid, and winds up dead. First, I can’t believe the scum knew Kyrie was the detective. Not enough to go on. But consider the scenario. The scum know Kyrie fingered fluiddruid. Kyrie ends up dead. Suspicion falls on fluiddruid. We lynch fluiddruid. Just like they wanted us to. Of course, they knew we’d know this…crap. I’m not going to defend fluiddruid too much, just point out that the scum are trying to confuse us. It’s a huge FOS on fluiddruid…but if we go with it and lynch her it means we’re doing what the scum expect. It might be worth lynching fluiddruid just to verify her status, but the strategy of lynching players who were fingered by murder victims has the obvious flaw that the scum can always find someone who fingered a townie and murder them and therefore point the finger at an innocent person. (which, by the way, led me to vote for **Lemur866** ) Now, during the next Day (yesterDay) **nesta** was [leaning towards voting](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8683813&postcount=2360) **tirial** > [@nesta](#): > > (snip)I’ll try to say something more substantial tonight, but right now the most likely recruit I can see is tirial, followed by Cookies, Diggit, and Hal in that order. but suddenly [reversed course](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8685085&postcount=2364) with a vote against **CTTDSWHC** > [@nesta](#): > > (snip)I’m going to vote ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies. I think she’s the most likely recruit, and her actions yesterday and today seem scummy to me. after finding himself on **Hal** ’s [menu](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8684456&postcount=2361) : > [@Hal](#): > > (snip)I’m…mmmm…let’s call it 85% certain that either tirial or nesta is the recruit. Which one though, I have no idea.(snip) My guess is nesta knew Hal was a mason (he thought **Hal** was unreasonable in my defense unless we were on the same team) and was preparing his ground for today. My apologies for this convoluted post, but I still had to explain my reasoning to vote nesta --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-game-iii-kinder-and-gentler/400527)._