# MAFIA: The Road to Canterbury - Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 21, 2012, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807 "2012-06-21T01:57:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/261 "2012-06-28T19:32:42Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > The Scum _aren’t_ getting a free kill with a no lynch. > > They _are_ essentially getting a free kill with a blind lynch. > > When a Townie dies, it doesn’t matter one whit who killed them, that’s a point toward Scum. Especially when the Scum can’t kill at will, and they can only win when we mislynch enough Townies, as is the case here. > > Blind lynches are the Scum’s best friend, here. so we should always no-lynch on D1? that’s what you’re saying. besides all lynches are blind unless your scum. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/262 "2012-06-28T19:38:58Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > I didn’t say that I don’t think Visorslash is Scum. What I said (or at least what I meant) was that his total silence since he became the lynch leader is \*more \*indicative to me of his guilt than the things he posted earlier. Sorry, I wasn’t clear. That “you” was meant generically, because I have seen some people saying that. I wanted to point out that I was not voting Visor for that reason. I should note that you (SP, not the generic “you”) have a point about Visor’s silence being potentially Mafia-motivated. I know that I tend to clam up when I’m mafia under heavy suspicion to avoid giving away something about my teammates. ---
**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/263 "2012-06-28T20:08:14Z")
But as scum, wouldn’t you try to defend yourself with at least some sort of response? Twist some accusers words or make up your own accusation or point out an inconsistency or something? I guess I’ve never seen scum just clam up and say nothing. I’ve seen scum say something like “well, there’s no way I’ll convince anyone but I’m town and you’ll all be sorry” in the face of an overwhelming vote count, but not say nothing at all. And it’s awfully weird to me that it looks to me like he started his own wagon. But, to quote **Hal** , that’s probably just what they want me to think! ---
**Author:** ![MentalGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/439d5e/32.png) [@MentalGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MentalGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/264 "2012-06-28T20:19:56Z")
> [@Snickers](#): > > **MentalGuy** , [that’s](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15215792&postcount=239) a seriously scummy post (and not just because it involves me). “I voted for **Visorslash** , but now I’m voting for **Snickers**. Well, no, maybe **Visorslash** , but totally **Snickers**. But I’d be OK with \*\*Visorslash \*\*anyway, guys.” Really? Besides just stating that it is scummy, then paraphrasing what I said to make it sound as indecisive as possible, could you explain why it is scummy. The person I would most like to see lynched is you. But it is Day 1 and I am not sure of anything. I was okay with Visorslashes lynch before, but Texcat’s point about what his silence might mean leaned me even more in that direction. That said, I still thought your misdirecting defense against Stanislaus’ case was more scummy, so I voted you. If I had needed to vote Visorslash to prevent a no-lynch, I would have had no problem doing that. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/265 "2012-06-28T20:28:37Z")
We’re coming up to 9:30pm, which means Dusk should fall soon (10pm at the latest, iirc). Nothing I read turned up a pointer worth lynching on. Maybe Tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/266 "2012-06-28T20:40:18Z")
[QUOTE=MentalGuy] Besides just stating that it is scummy, then paraphrasing what I said to make it sound as indecisive as possible, could you explain why it is scummy. The person I would most like to see lynched is you. But it is Day 1 and I am not sure of anything. I was okay with Visorslashes lynch before, but Texcat’s point about what his silence might mean leaned me even more in that direction. That said, I still thought your misdirecting defense against Stanislaus’ case was more scummy, so I voted you. If I had needed to vote Visorslash to prevent a no-lynch, I would have had no problem doing that. [/QUOTE] Because it’s so wishy washy - it’s not taking any kind of stance at all. It’s barely making a case. Yes, it’s Day1, and that sucks. But that’s no reason to flip flop back and forth, all in one post. And your last line reads to me like you’re seeking other players approval for your vote. I find that scummy. You’re kind of doing it again. You were OK with **Visorslash** ’s lynch before, and you leaned even more in that direction with more info. But you ended up voting for me, which is fine. Yet you’d switch your vote back to \*\*Visorslash \*\*to avoid a no-lynch. Which might also be fine, but you placed your vote when it’s patently obvious that no-lynch isn’t going to happen and when the wagon’s already running away on **Visorslash**. It just looks to me like you’re trying to avoid jumping on a wagon and playing both sides while you’re at it. Apologies if you think this is mischaracterizing you; it’s just how it came across. ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/267 "2012-06-28T21:33:07Z")
> [@Stanislaus](#): > > You’ve missed TexCat’s (238) and Suburban Plankton’s (228) votes for visorslash. (On preview - and Babale’s (200).) :smack: > [@Snickers](#): > > **Stanislaus** helpfully removed any time I quoted someone else in my response to them while making his case. The forum software automatically removes nested quotes, I believe. > [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Yep. > > _whacks fubbleskag with a trout_ > > What is it with this “they’re unhelpful so I want to kill them” kick people are on. Killing unhelpful players that you think are town is only making it harder on yourself! That’s not at all what I said, please re-read. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/268 "2012-06-28T23:58:08Z")
So I’m not sure what happened: I thought I posted Dusk when I left work, back at 3:00, but apparently it didn’t take. Thus, a semi-abbreviated version: **Dusk, Day One** \*The day was uneasy; no blood had yet been shed, but the signs and omens were portentous. Each of them felt eyes watching, from the sides of the road, from the insides of the carriages that rumbled alongside - and none of them believed those eyes to be kind. In the end, they seized upon one, a sinner to be sure, hoping his blood would placate whatever malevolent forces had seized upon them. Like all of them, he was a sinner indeed - and they were not, collectively, particularly inclined toward mercy. But one among them felt he could be forgiven after all, and when they went to bed that night, none had died.\* **Visorslash** , who was and is Town-aligned, has been pardoned and is NOT dead. Night One begins here, and will end between 1:00PM and 5:00PM Eastern on Saturday. June 30. All Night actions received up until 1:00PM on Saturday will definitely be accepted; any Night actions submitted after this time will be accepted until the posting of the Dawn of Day Two. Have fun! ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/269 "2012-06-28T23:59:14Z")
Argh. I thought this variable end of Day thing wouldn’t be too bad, but after 7 hours of F5ing, I’m re-thinking. ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/270 "2012-06-29T00:03:50Z")
And, after 7 hours, I end up cross-posting with storyteller. :smack: Good work by the pardoner! ---
**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/271 "2012-06-29T00:19:11Z")
🆒 I’ll post a bit later today on what has pinged me. @ the people who said I gave up Assume makes an ass out of you and me. But really, just you at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/272 "2012-06-29T02:18:52Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > Good work by the pardoner! I have a feeling the pardoner and Visorslash are one and the same. Welcome back, Visor! Note that I never voted for you. Not that I exactly came to your defense or anything, but you know how it is. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/273 "2012-06-29T03:06:06Z")
Very nicely done, Pardoner! And I’ll leave it at that for tonight…Thirsty Thursday at the ballpark and mafia is not a wise mix. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/274 "2012-06-29T04:10:32Z")
> [@Mosier](#): > > I have a feeling the pardoner and Visorslash are one and the same. > > Welcome back, Visor! Note that I never voted for you. Not that I exactly came to your defense or anything, but you know how it is. it would seem he was. very sly move on your part, **Visorslash**. now we have a voting record to work with. And that is why we shouldn’t choose a no-lynch. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/275 "2012-06-29T05:58:33Z")
Well done! And yes, you fooled me. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/276 "2012-06-29T12:45:02Z")
Well, on behalf of one person on the lynch mob, I guess my feelings can be summed up in one word: Oops. I have respect for the move you played, Visorslash. You didn’t fully ping my scum radar but I just couldn’t make sense of why you’d be acting the way you did. I seriously, honestly, never considered your role as pardoner as a means of explaining what was going on. Well done. Note to everyone: I’m going out of town today for about 2-3 days so limited access to Dope and posting. Just FYI. ---
**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/277 "2012-06-29T13:13:25Z")
Holy cats! Nicely played, nicely played indeed. I think there’s good info to be had in that wagon of yours. Most impressive. I can’t stop grinning. That was cool. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/278 "2012-06-29T13:16:37Z")
By the by, **storyteller** , check your profile. The links in there are for Evil Dead Mafia. ---
**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/279 "2012-06-29T13:46:36Z")
> [@fubbleskag](#): > > The forum software automatically removes nested quotes, I believe. Trying it out…so it does. I did not know that. Good to know. **Stanislaus** , apologies. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/280 "2012-06-29T14:05:15Z")
For a brief period of time, we had nested quotes and it was glorious. but as with so many other things, dopers couldn’t handle it and screeched about the possibility of misattribution and so the power was taken away again. No, I’m not bitter. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807.md?page=15)