# MAFIA: The Road to Canterbury - Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 21, 2012, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807 "2012-06-21T01:57:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/621 "2012-07-13T14:42:20Z")
> [@Stanislaus](#): > > Admitting that I clearly screwed-up by letting last-minute self doubt get the better of me… > > Why is it a risk to claim? (NB you’re wrong - Mosier claimed first). > Why does fubbleskag knowing I’m town lend credence to his role claim? Do you not see how he would also know this if he is scum? Did you not read my first response to his claim, which included mention of how it didn’t prove his allegiance? Did you not read his acknowledgement of this point in his reply? You are correct on all those things. Including Mosier whose I missed on my review because I was doing a keyword search of “role claim” and it didn’t pop up. I guess I’m just saying that it seems weird that, of all the people you could have voted for, you ended up choosing the guy who said you were town! Yes, I get that it’s possible for scum to just as easily “investigate” because they know who’s town already, but it just seems strange that he’s the one guy out of them all who pinged your radar the hardest. As a note to everyone, we’re getting to the point where if we don’t find legit scum by the next Day, we’re heading for some serious trouble. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/622 "2012-07-13T15:09:33Z")
> [@RyJae](#): > > Hello townies 🙂 I have been paying attention since the start, I was just a day late to volunteer to play. I love this game, even when it feels like you’re banging your head against a brick wall. > > Now I want my duck, in orange sauce please. Well this is your lucky day then…we have Duck with Orange, Duck with Cherries, and Duck Surprise! ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/623 "2012-07-13T15:46:12Z")
> [@MHaye](#): > > It’s a shame that fubbleskag died and came up Town, but that does give us some extra information. > > In this game, there are two problems with believing an investigator’s claim. One is that the investigator might be a lying member of the Brotherhood. The other is that the investigated player might be wearing the Cloak of Lies. > > Since fubbleskag was Town, we can believe his report that he investigated Stanislaus, and that Stanislaus came up Town. > > I will now reveal without further ado that the result of fubbleskag’s investigation was not corrupted by the Cloak of Lies. > > I am The Clerk of Oxford. > > On Night 1 I asked Storyteller whether the Cloak of Lies had been selected by the Brotherhood. > > He said no.I don’t believe there is a way to corrupt my investigation (beyond removing my power before I use it). The conclusion I draw from this is that Stanislaus is Town. So let’s work this out. If you’re Town: The Cloak was not in play on Night 1. And I believe the only was the Scum can gain access to ‘new’ tools is by killing the Seraph, which hasn’t happened, so the Cloak is \*still \*not in play. We do still have one Investigator who has not been heard from, so this means we can trust his results…assuming he’s Town. If you’re Scum: Then the Cloak could be in play, because you know there’s no way for Town to be able to discover its existence. So \*\*Stanislaus \*\*could be Scum wearing the Cloak. Or…Stanislaus could be Town and the Cloak could be on someone else…or you could be Scum but telling the truth about the Cloak. And either way, this tells us nothing about **gnarlycharlie**. He could be Town reporting a true (or false) result, or he could be Scum reporting the result he knows would be ‘correct’ under the circumstances. I’m making no accusations here, just trying to work out whether or not this new knowledge actually tells us anything definitive, and if my reasoning is correct, it doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/624 "2012-07-13T23:28:43Z")
Visorslash, can you please confirm whether you’re still playing? ---
**Author:** ![RyJae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@RyJae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyJae)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/625 "2012-07-13T23:58:00Z")
I guess I will lay my thinking on one person in particular out. **Gnarlycharlie** I believed as an outsider looking in and still do that was a mistake way back in time. During the discussion about the cloak/investigations. Not just the possible slip up but this series of events. > [@gnarlycharlie](#): > > can the three investigators (pun not intended) look into the ones who voted for **Visorslash**? there has to be scum there. Followed by an admission that he used his investigation on a non-voter, to throw scum off? That to me was a bad townie move, you wanted the other investigators if town to get fucked? I believe it was **Mhaye** in my very first game years ago who prior to it starting I used as a help board, his advise was simple, if I am town, help town find scum don’t hurt town. Not so much in those simplified words, but the jist is the same. Combined with the > [@gnarlycharlie](#): > > we may never know a good time to use it. _shrugs_ “it” is no where close to something I would have thought about as a multiple, as the investigations. I could have seen “we may never know a good time to use them” but just the way he put it screams oops. But I could have brushed this off as referring to himself and his investigation, if it wasn’t for his meddling with investigators. He is the \*\*only \*\* person caught in at least one less than honest approach. so I have a big ol’ FOS on him. In summary, we have no investigations or knowledge other than the words we read, I think it is clear going by that **gnarlycharlie** is the only one I can in good faith look at with strong suspicions. ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2012, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/626 "2012-07-14T03:22:22Z")
> [@RyJae](#): > > I guess I will lay my thinking on one person in particular out. **Gnarlycharlie** I believed as an outsider looking in and still do that was a mistake way back in time. During the discussion about the cloak/investigations. Not just the possible slip up but this series of events. > > Followed by an admission that he used his investigation on a non-voter, to throw scum off? That to me was a bad townie move, you wanted the other investigators if town to get fucked? I believe it was **Mhaye** in my very first game years ago who prior to it starting I used as a help board, his advise was simple, if I am town, help town find scum don’t hurt town. Not so much in those simplified words, but the jist is the same. > > Combined with the > > “it” is no where close to something I would have thought about as a multiple, as the investigations. I could have seen “we may never know a good time to use them” but just the way he put it screams oops. But I could have brushed this off as referring to himself and his investigation, if it wasn’t for his meddling with investigators. > He is the \*\*only \*\* person caught in at least one less than honest approach. so I have a big ol’ FOS on him. In summary, we have no investigations or knowledge other than the words we read, I think it is clear going by that **gnarlycharlie** is the only one I can in good faith look at with strong suspicions. i guess you come from the school of town should always be honest and forthright. i obviously don’t. first, i had no idea whether the other two were scum or not. i also hoped to put pressure on scum by saying that. could they risk not protecting someone there? as i had secretly hoped another investigator would do as i did which was to investigate outside that group. as for the “them” and “it” slip, i already admitted that **Mhaye** was right in his assessment that i was referring to my own investigation. despite being wrong about me, allow me to welcome you to the game. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/627 "2012-07-15T20:18:25Z")
Is my calendar way off or are we overdue for Day 4? ---
**Author:** ![RyJae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@RyJae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyJae)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/628 "2012-07-15T20:34:44Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Is my calendar way off or are we overdue for Day 4? I was wondering the very same. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/629 "2012-07-16T01:40:55Z")
You are. Y’all, this game has been interesting from an administrative standpoint. I have another sub request and would strongly prefer to try to handle it before Day Four dawns, because I don’t intend to allow subs after Night Three is over. Thus I am delaying the Dawn until I can find resolution. Apologies! ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/630 "2012-07-16T01:52:19Z")
If you can’t find anyone else, I’d be willing to sub in to keep the game moving. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/631 "2012-07-16T01:56:15Z")
Enough subs. This game needs more Doms. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/632 "2012-07-16T14:33:33Z")
AStral - I think I’ll take you up on that. Dawn to come immediately following. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/633 "2012-07-16T14:43:31Z")
Thanks Astral. The suspense has been killing me. Or is that the Brotherhood? DUN DUN DUN! ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/634 "2012-07-16T14:51:44Z")
**Dawn, Day Four** \*The Night was cold and long. They had traveled some miles toward Canterbury, but many miles still remained and the grim and growing body count did little to soothe their overworked muscles and aching backs. Only one among them felt no fatigue – a man of duty, stubborn as a tree stump, he stood watch late into the Night and unto the Dawn. And while he stood, some slept. And while he stood, some crept from their tents, engaged in tasks nefarious or benign. And while he stood, unimaginable evils stood by. And while he stood – very near where he stood, in fact – a group of four gathered under the starlight. They whispered urgently, intently. One held in his hands an object, obscured from this chronicler, which glowed with an eerie blue light. Illuminating all of their faces. What did they discuss? What black-hearted plan unfolded in that strange blue light? Most importantly of all, who were they that gathered? All of these answers and more the man of duty might have learned, had he for a moment lifted his helmet to listen and look – for the four had gathered no more than twenty feet from his post. But instead he stood. He was still standing in the morning, leaning on his blade, barely slumped forward against the blade in his back. White petals were gathered around his feet. He’d be standing still, but a funeral seemed appropriate.\* **Snickers** , THE KNIGHT, has been slain. His power has been used. * * * Day Four begins here. **Astral Rejection** will be subbing in for **Tengu** , who is unable to continue in the game. In order to maintain the integrity of the game, this will be the last substitution permitted; in the future, players unable to participate will be mod-killed. Because Dawn was delayed, Day Four will be extended until **Friday, July 21** between 1 and 5 PM EST. Have fun! ---
**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/635 "2012-07-16T14:56:10Z")
Rah rah ree, kick 'em in the knee! Rah rah rass, kick 'em in … the other knee! Go town! ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/636 "2012-07-16T15:05:46Z")
Hey, fellow travelers! While I have been following along with this game, I havent been reading close enough to post anything right now. I’d like to fully read the game from the start before weighing in. This will be a job for after work, as my comprehension tends to fail when I’m on my phone. I’m a little curious: I always make my voting history charts for myself, but does anybody else find them useful? I like 'em but I can see how they might get annoying for some. I’ve never really asked what others thought before. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/637 "2012-07-16T15:09:21Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Hey, fellow travelers! While I have been following along with this game, I havent been reading close enough to post anything right now. I’d like to fully read the game from the start before weighing in. This will be a job for after work, as my comprehension tends to fail when I’m on my phone. > > I’m a little curious: I always make my voting history charts for myself, but does anybody else find them useful? I like 'em but I can see how they might get annoying for some. I’ve never really asked what others thought before. I’m fine with it. Information is information. If it’s accurate, it can be useful. If people find them annoying…well, that’s on them. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/638 "2012-07-16T15:50:15Z")
Yes, if you’re making them please share them. ---
**Author:** ![RyJae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@RyJae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyJae)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/639 "2012-07-16T19:03:03Z")
Though he has tried to explain himself, to some satisfactorily to me it is still the only black and white method of voting right now. We only have the words wrote, and gnarlycharlie your words have been deceptive on one occasion and a slight chance of a slip on another occasion. That leaves me little choice but to vote toward you. **vote gnarlycharlie** I also got this PM this morning. > [@](#): > > Dawn Day Four > This morning, you observe in Mosier a few unmistakable signs: he is flushed and sweating, and his eyes seem glassy and distant. > > Mosier has been poisoned with Asp’s Venom. ``` Being that, I can now read a bit more onto Mosier and his suspicions/votes for and against with the assumption* that he is town. ``` \*not 100% reading the rules I assume scum can poison scum, but would it be worth it for any reason?. Feel free to point out why it would be if I have a flaw. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/640 "2012-07-16T20:09:05Z")
Can anyone else confirm whether they received a similar PM regarding me being poisoned? I was under the impression that we would only be informed of a poisoning if the doctor was alive, which I’m pretty sure he is dead. If RyJae is the only person who claims to have seen a PM regarding the signs of poisoning, he has a lot of explaining to do… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807.md?page=33)