# MAFIA: The Road to Canterbury - Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 21, 2012, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807 "2012-06-21T01:57:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 56
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1101 "2012-08-09T14:57:13Z")
If I have to choose one, then I’ll move to prevent a tie. **Unvote Ender**. My vote for RyJae still stands. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1102 "2012-08-09T14:57:47Z")
> [@Stanislaus](#): > > So, with the Merchant, the Monk and the Prioress ostensibly in play, the scum went for the obvious move of targeting Visorslash. > > That seems a little risky, doesn’t it? Unless they knew that there weren’t, in fact, three potential protectors out there. > > That’s why I’m suspicious of Babale. It’s not just that he didn’t do the obvious thing; it’s that scum should have been afraid of targeting Visor and risking losing a kill. But they weren’t. This goes for Astral as well. I re-read this, and I must have glossed over it before, but that’s actually a really good point. It points to one of two outcomes: Babale or me (or both) are scum, or we have an inexperienced scum team. Scum could have thought I was blustering and had already used my power, but that leaves two more protective powers in play. Huh. Gonna have to ponder this, although my instinct is to stick with my vote on RyJae. Also, incidentally, was this post you formally claiming prioress? ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1103 "2012-08-09T15:04:40Z")
No, I claimed [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15331794&postcount=972). ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1104 "2012-08-09T15:08:34Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > I re-read this, and I must have glossed over it before, but that’s actually a really good point. It points to one of two outcomes: Babale or me (or both) are scum, or we have an inexperienced scum team. > > Scum could have thought I was blustering and had already used my power, but that leaves two more protective powers in play. Huh. Gonna have to ponder this, although my instinct is to stick with my vote on RyJae. > > Also, incidentally, was this post you formally claiming prioress? Ostensibly. Seems like the opposite to me. I think this supports the theory that Stan is in fact third party. Or maybe he likes spreading that around, so that Scum hesitate to kill him (because they’re scared that, like Hal, he’s immune?) and is, in fact, Town. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1105 "2012-08-09T15:22:25Z")
Babale, I don’t follow what you’re saying. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1106 "2012-08-09T15:28:14Z")
I posted at the same time as Stan and so, didn’t see his post. I thought that what he said was consistent with avoiding a claim as much as possible. But Stan DID claim, I just missed it. Since that’s the case, my point is moot. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1107 "2012-08-09T15:56:14Z")
> [@Stanislaus](#): > > Terrific, a three way tie. Well I’m not going to vote for myself, even if that would break the tie 🙂 > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > People with multiple votes: toDay is not the day for this. **Pick one target.** In a three-way-tie, voting for two of the top three is anti-town. Fair enough. My votes were there to put them out there. I’ll be happy to rescind one of them to not muddy the waters **UNVOTE Babale** > [@Babale](#): > > Forrest future reference, why does Ended and others take it as granted that Scum soul go for Visor? I honestly don’t see the appeal. Astral explained it, and I’d be happy to go into more detail in any post game wrap-up. Also, I questioned the need to point this out but I think with Hal’s claimed power this may be something to at least consider even if it’s not implemented. **STORY: Has Visor’s power been used? Alternatively, did Visor have a useable power at the time of his death?** ---
**Author:** ![MentalGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/439d5e/32.png) [@MentalGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MentalGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1108 "2012-08-09T16:01:52Z")
I have a bad habit of hitting preview on posts and then forgetting to actually post them. I think I must have done that last night. I know I wrote a post, but it is not showing up here. Anyway, in that post I voted Ender, and he would still be my first choice, but I don’t really want a tie. I am hurrying to make this post between classes so I am going to abstain from voting, but only because I don’t want to have a tie. Otherwise, my vote would be for Ender. I doubt I will be on again before End of Day. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1109 "2012-08-09T16:02:12Z")
Interesting thought. If Hal can do it, our lynch wouldn’t kill anybody today, which (I think) means even with the spear, we’re not at LyLo. There’s an enormous pro-town benefit to sparing our lynch target today, I would think. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1110 "2012-08-09T16:02:48Z")
I’m a little disappointed – I had hoped toDay would bring a little more anti-me talk. What **Ender** said is likely correct – voting for me now would be extremely anti-town, so I was hoping scum would show their hand by trying to bump me off. No such luck – **Astral Rejection** ’s bit about me being terrible for town is all we got. Not an accurate statement, but not enough to make me vote him (I still refuse to consider double-voting). And now that a couple of hours have passed since I wrote that paragraph (the problem with playing Mafia while working), I gotta say – **Astral** , lynchy towards me or not, you’re an insightful player. Your case against **RyJae** and suspicions toward **Ender** are a mirror of what I had been thinking. I agree that spreading the vote is extra-bad right now, so even though I’m willing to make the switch if need be, for now I’m going to… Vote **RyJae** ---
**Author:** ![RyJae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@RyJae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyJae)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1111 "2012-08-09T16:02:54Z")
Wow, a sure way to get a vote is to vote for Babale… I am going to turn up as town, on that Babale must die next imho. I was wrong before so take that with a grain of salt. But Stanislaus has also made some imo more on Babale than any other player as being scum currently in the game. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1112 "2012-08-09T16:13:25Z")
With 45 minutes left until the hammer can drop… **RyJae** - (4 votes) - Enderw24 (1079), Astral Rejection (1092), Babale (1098), Hal Briston (1110) **Ender** - (1 vote) - Stanislaus (1077), [del]Babale[/del] (1083-1101) **Babale** - (1 vote) - [del]Stanislaus[/del] (1077-1087), [del]Enderw24[/del] (1079-1107), RyJae (1093) **Stanislaus** - (0 votes) - [del]Babale[/del] (1083-1085) ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1113 "2012-08-09T16:13:31Z")
Hal, I should amend my statement. Your _actions_ have been terrible for town, at least in my opinion. Your cases and discussion have been solid. I think hitting two townies with your kills is pretty bad, but I like you as a player, so it’s a wash. 😃 Can you ask Story if you can take Visor’s power if it’s available? He might miss the post in-thread, but a PM to help the question along can’t hurt. I’m worried the answer will be “no,” or at the very least “not until toNight,” as I think your power is explicitly a night power, right? ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1114 "2012-08-09T16:32:21Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Can you ask Story if you can take Visor’s power if it’s available? He might miss the post in-thread, but a PM to help the question along can’t hurt. I can only pick up _unused_ powers – **Visor** used the Pardoner’s power Night One, didn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1115 "2012-08-09T16:48:08Z")
Theoretically, he could have had a second go at it, based on the restorative. That one would be unused and possibly up for grabs. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1116 "2012-08-09T17:07:10Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Theoretically, he could have had a second go at it, based on the restorative. That one would be unused and possibly up for grabs. Ohhhh, excellent point…but I’d doubt it. **story** and I had this conversation on Day Five: > [@Hal Briston](#): > > As a result of whatever happened last Night, have I spent the Shipman power? According to the rules: > > > [@](#): > > > > If your attack is blocked, you will not lose your chance to act; if your target is successfully protected, you will. > > So was this a block or a protect? > > Thanks much… [QUOTE=storyteller0910] Been thinking about how to answer your question properly. All I will say is that the Shipman power is spent, and you do not have access to it toNight. You still can use your own power, of course (and the Miller’s, though it would result in your own death). [/QUOTE] **story** does not mention anything about having the Pardoner’s power there. But, just in case… Hey **story** – any chance the restorative was used in a way that would put the Pardoner’s power (or any other power, for that matter) in my hands? ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1117 "2012-08-09T17:57:14Z")
> [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > Hey **story** – any chance the restorative was used in a way that would put the Pardoner’s power (or any other power, for that matter) in my hands? You guys are so cute. I will obviously not answer this question. **Visorslash** ’s death reveal includes the information you get upon death, and all the information you get upon death. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1118 "2012-08-09T18:02:32Z")
**Hey Story, are we lynching scum, or should we change our votes?** 😃 ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1119 "2012-08-09T18:10:54Z")
**Day Seven, Dusk** \*The expedition had grown quite small, now, and fear and suspicion ruled the day. They paused to make camp for the Night a few scant miles from Canterbury; indeed, it almost seemed to the more hopeful among them that they could make out the spires of the great Cathedral in the distance. This was almost surely a mirage, but it seemed that with some hard work - of any of them were left by then - they might watch the sunset from the cathedral garden tomorrow night. Well, some of them might. RyJae, a man of medicine to his end, most surely would not.\* **RyJae** , who was Town and the PHYSICIAN, has been lynched * * * Night Seven begins here, with six players still alive. Day Eight will begin on Saturday, August 11, between 1 and 5 PM EST. Happy hunting! ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1120 "2012-08-09T18:12:34Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > **Day Seven, Dusk** > > **RyJae** , who was Town and the PHYSICIAN, has been lynched Well, I’ll be damned. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807.md?page=55) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807.md?page=57)