# MAFIA: The Road to Canterbury - Game Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 21, 2012, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807 "2012-06-21T01:57:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1181 "2012-08-18T16:37:18Z")

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Yah! I told you to lynch Hal! But noooooo, we new to find Scum, not focus on him!!! Oh well. Also, I thought I should use the spear on Hal, not Ender. Was his protection gone?

Ender, your “troublesome foursome” theory was good, but you made one mistake. Astral couldn’t have been picked because he wasn’t around at the beginning! Therefore he was no more likely to be Scum than I.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1182 "2012-08-18T16:54:36Z")

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:smack: I should have pointed that out myself, but it went right over me.

Congrats for your win, Hal! I’m glad we didn’t kill you now, on account of how much I didn’t want scum to win!

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1183 "2012-08-18T17:16:49Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Yah! I told you to lynch Hal! But noooooo, we new to find Scum, not focus on him!!! Oh well. Also, I thought I should use the spear on Hal, not Ender. Was his protection gone?
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> Ender, your “troublesome foursome” theory was good, but you made one mistake. Astral couldn’t have been picked because he wasn’t around at the beginning! Therefore he was no more likely to be Scum than I.

Unless Hal was absolutely lying on his PMed abilities (and at this point it’s probably even money), he was immune to the bloody spear. So you’d have wasted it AND caused his win condition to kick in.

as for your other thing…hahahaha…CRAP. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1184 "2012-08-18T17:23:03Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> Here’s the funny thing. If you die and flip town, the game will end and you’ll see that I was town also. Wouldn’t that be great? The only two town left leaving scum alone and voting for each other? It would be a perfect end to a perfectly crappy game for Town.

By the way, Ender, it turned out exactly as you predicted. I still think your case on me was terribly unconvincing. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1185 "2012-08-18T17:53:42Z")

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> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
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> By the way, Ender, it turned out exactly as you predicted. I still think your case on me was terribly unconvincing. 🙂

And I think everyone’s case against me sucked. So we’ll call it even.  
The only thing stopping me from committing seppuku over this game is that it’s clear scum managed to fool pretty much everyone this game, and Hal managed to fool scum so on the food chain of cluelessness I’m clearly, like, plankton. Or maybe a bunny rabbit.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1186 "2012-08-18T17:54:37Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> And I think everyone’s case against me sucked. So we’ll call it even.  
> The only thing stopping me from committing seppuku over this game is that it’s clear scum managed to fool pretty much everyone this game, and Hal managed to fool scum so on the food chain of cluelessness I’m clearly, like, plankton. Or maybe a bunny rabbit.

If you’re plankton, what’s Suburban Plankton?

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1187 "2012-08-18T17:59:59Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> And I think everyone’s case against me sucked. So we’ll call it even.  
> The only thing stopping me from committing seppuku over this game is that it’s clear scum managed to fool pretty much everyone this game, and Hal managed to fool scum so on the food chain of cluelessness I’m clearly, like, plankton. Or maybe a bunny rabbit.

It’s not so much that he fooled us as we couldn’t do anything to him. Now, I don’t know how much Hal lied but we burned one knife on him and weren’t really inclined to waste any more. If I hadn’t picked the poison at the beginning of the game we wouldn’t have had any tools that would have killed him.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1188 "2012-08-18T19:25:52Z")

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Thank you all very much, and my apologies to all future non-PFK 3rd parties – you guys are screwed. 🙂

FTR, here are the PMs I received after my Carpenter one:

[QUOTE=storyteller0910]  
I have bad news.

You are dead.

That’s the bad news.

The good news is, you get to find out one of the hidden elements of the game. And you still get to play!

Yes, the Carpenter is no more. His soul has been consigned to whatever waits for all of us once the end has happened. His body has been hollowed, stripped of everything that once made it human. The shell has been remodeled, made into a comfortable residence for a nameless, malevolent creature of extraordinary power, who views this sad pilgrimage as a chance to entertain itself with the hapless mortals taking the trip.

That’d be you.

* * *

Welcome to the game; you are **THE NAMELESS**

You are a third party, but you are nothing so base and simplistic as a serial killer. You wish to be amused, and while death is amusing, like so many good things it gets repetitive after a while. Accordingly, your win condition is as follows:

You will win the game if, at the beginning of any Night, there are five or fewer players still alive and at least six of the following conditions have been satisfied:

1. At least one Scum has been lynched with your vote on the wagon.
2. At least one Townie has been lynched with your vote on the wagon.
3. Someone has successfully investigated a Scum player.
4. At least one kill attempt is blocked, protected, redirected, or otherwise fails to hit its target.
5. Any player is lynched with less than 25% of the total population voting for him or her.
6. A Day passes with no deaths.
7. All Scum tools have been played, including at least one Sacrificial Knife.
8. The Seraph is dead by any means.
9. There are three or fewer players still alive.
10. You kill someone.

If you happen to be alive when this happens, you will steal the win from all other parties.

If you are no longer alive when this happens, you will win with either side.

If the game ends with more than five players alive, and/or if fewer than six of the ten conditions outlined above are satisfied, you will not win at all.

* * *

_But that’s impossible,_ you say. _How can I accomplish this?_

Glad you asked. A second PM is on its way.  
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[QUOTE=storyteller0910]  
THE NAMELESS: Powers and abilities

First, you are flatly immune to the Bloody Spear and the sacrificial knives. A failed attempt on your life will trigger condition #4 from your win condition list.

You can be Night-killed is by the Shipman, by poison, or by the Carpenter’s deathtrap.

You can be lynched like anyone else.

You will note that investigations always deliver a Scum/not-Scum response. Thus they will not reveal your identity. However, if you happen to be investigated while under the influence of the Canon’s potion of True Sight, your true alignment will be revealed to the investigator.

You may act any Night that you wish. You may choose as your action the power of any _dead_ player who has not already used his or her power, though (like the player in question) you may use each power only once. So, for example, if the Man of Law dies on Day One, you may investigate a player on Night One. You may not subsequently investigate anyone, but if (for example) the Reeve dies on Night One without having used his/her power, you may use the Reeve’s investigation on Night Two (or thereafter). If a Scum player dies, you may not use his or her original Town ability.

You have one ability accessible to you from the outset:

1. Kill someone. You may do this up to two times in the game. However, be aware that the color of the kill will clearly distinguish your kill from all of the known methods of killing in the game. You cannot kill the Seraph. Your kill can be blocked or protected against as if it were a standard Scum kill.

Please confirm that you have receieved and understood these messages.

Good luck!  
[/QUOTE]

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1189 "2012-08-18T19:30:21Z")

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Did you make up the Chaucer color, or did Story do it for you?

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1190 "2012-08-18T19:31:39Z")

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I was pretty proud of myself for my role claim – I wrote it days before I actually had to use it and then sweated every detail, worrying that I’d have put something in there that would give me away – and it wasn’t until after I made the claim that I realized that there _was_.

I claimed to be Chaucer, but I forgot that Chaucer was already in the game – as **storyteller** ’s “Poet”. I panicked when I realized that, but I figured that it was a 50/50 shot that anyone would pick up on my gaffe…fortunately (for me, anyway), no one did.

So woohoo! I _love_ playing roles that have a shot at winstealing, but didn’t think I’d ever manage to pull off the task. My Mafia life goal has been achieved. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1191 "2012-08-18T19:33:25Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Did you make up the Chaucer color, or did Story do it for you?

That was me. I’m placing that on the list with my daughter, the football pool I invented and the name of my pub trivia team as the greatest things I’ve ever created.

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1192 "2012-08-18T21:27:04Z")

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Well bloody done Hal. That was a terrific performance. Especially the Chaucer colour - brilliant.

And bad luck to the brotherhood, who otherwise outplayed everyone else. By which I mean me.

And also well done to Mahaloth, who otherwise played his role perfectly. He kept enough suspicion on himself not be worth Scum’s time to kill, but knew that low participation wouldn’t actually draw a lynch. Then he killed just as many scum as those of us who (collectively) tried to do it through posting a lot.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1193 "2012-08-18T21:38:10Z")

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We would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn’t for that meddling Hal!

Very nice work, man. Respect. _thumps chest_

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**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1194 "2012-08-18T21:39:05Z")

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Yeah Hal! Pbbbbbbbth scummy scum scum.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1195 "2012-08-18T21:56:16Z")

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Hey, you lost too, sonny! And _I_ got to plunge a knife in your back! 😛

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1196 "2012-08-18T22:13:38Z")

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Congrats, Hal!

Sorry for my passive play(if you can call it that). I was trying to survive long enough to gain a useful power. Once Kelly(I think) died, I was able to take that power and kill Inner Stickler.

However, my PM had not made it clear. I take the power one night and use it the next, so I had to quietly hide another Day cycle to use it.

Fortunately, it worked and I was right about stickler. 🙂

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**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1197 "2012-08-18T23:22:08Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Hey, you lost too, sonny! And _I_ got to plunge a knife in your back! 😛

That would be girlie not sonny but you must be a girlie man to knife me in the back anyway so double Phbbbbbbttthhhh to you! And I didn’t give Visorslash his power back either, hahahaha. All that angst for nothing.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1198 "2012-08-18T23:26:24Z")

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> [@sinjin](#):
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> That would be girlie not sonny but you must be a girlie man to knife me in the back anyway so double Phbbbbbbttthhhh to you! And I didn’t give Visorslash his power back either, hahahaha. All that angst for nothing.

Who did you give power back to? I must have missed something…

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**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1199 "2012-08-18T23:32:15Z")

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> [@Mosier](#):
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> Who did you give power back to? I must have missed something…

I didn’t give it to anyone. I chose the elixer of true sight and splashed in on Mhaye. I am soooo sucky at finding scum I figured I’d end up giving an extra kill to scum if I chose the restorative.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-road-to-canterbury-game-thread/625807/1200 "2012-08-19T00:30:30Z")

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I’m not talking to you, mahaloth.

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