# Mafia: The Thrill of the Chase \[Newbie Friendly!\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 20, 2011, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526 "2011-11-20T06:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/561 "2011-12-09T14:47:22Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > In a separate post, because it has nothing to do with Guiri: > > fubbleskag… what’s up with you? A post with all smileys? A copy and paste of my post? What’s your angle? I’ve explained the second, and I’m frankly surprised that the first needs explanation; maybe it’s more subtle than I originally intended - but it’ll come out eventually, I suspect. ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/562 "2011-12-09T14:49:49Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > The only other game I remember playing with fubbles was Meeko’s zoo game where he, as the cop, apparently incorrectly reported his investigations for at least two people. We never got an answer as to why that happened, as I recall. for the record, Meeko was super pissed about that: [QUOTE=Meeko] I’m trying to contact you. \*\* What the FUCK are you doing to my game? \*\* You haven’t investigated Archangel, or JustBeingGinger. You have investigated Colby, Suburban Plankton and Deni. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/563 "2011-12-09T15:04:23Z")
> [@fubbleskag](#): > > another detail. I’d like to ask everyone to post the subject line of their role PM if they don’t mind. mine was “Role PM (mafia)” as opposed to being labelled “(town)” or “(scum)” specifically. Mine is different still, as I’d expect from a role PM intended to prevent handshaking. I find handshaking to be somewhat anti-game (meta as it is) and I start with the default assumption that my moderator has taken pains to prevent it from being a serious aspect of the game. I’d recommend nobody else volunteer info about their PM at this time, unless you have something earth shattering to add. ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/564 "2011-12-09T15:05:10Z")
posting as i catch up. > [@Svejk\_1](#): > > There seems to be some contradiction here. Is it good or bad strategy? Is it a bad thing to lynch the loud, or should they be voted for? there is a tendency to lynch the loud because they can be abrasive. others think it’s anti-town because it distracts from scumhunting. history has shown it’s not a consistent indicator of alignment. however, players who are consistently loud have been able to use it to their advantage especially as scum. > [@Mahaloth](#): > > I’ve been steering clear a bit, but I will vote right now so not to end the Day with no vote. > > **Vote Special Ed** > > I’m not sure how to explain this. His style and tone seem…different. It’s hard to put a finger on it. Anyway, that’s my vote. his new playstyle gets to a lot of players, me included. he’s not as helpful as before and it’s hard get a read on him. **choie** , some players don’t say anything after a townie is lynched because players used to be suspected of [gloating](http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=JEEP's_Tells_for_Finding_Mafia) and so choose to say nothing. the tells in the link are dated and IMO obsolete. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/565 "2011-12-09T15:05:24Z")
> [@fubbleskag](#): > > for the record, Meeko was super pissed about that: Also, that sounds hilarious. I get his anger, but… funny. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/566 "2011-12-09T15:35:19Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Mine is different still, as I’d expect from a role PM intended to prevent handshaking. I find handshaking to be somewhat anti-game (meta as it is) and I start with the default assumption that my moderator has taken pains to prevent it from being a serious aspect of the game. > > I’d recommend nobody else volunteer info about their PM at this time, unless you have something earth shattering to add. why would you discourage the sharing of information that could potentially help town? ---
**Author:** ![Svejk\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@Svejk\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Svejk_1)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/567 "2011-12-09T15:38:38Z")
Astral, I can see that you’re on-line. Did we ever get a vote from you? ---
**Author:** ![Svejk\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@Svejk\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Svejk_1)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/568 "2011-12-09T15:56:30Z")
You know what, I don’t like \*\*scathach \*\*being in the lead, and I’m not comfortable with the way that she’s been band-wagoned. After I made my case, some reasonable questions have been asked by **Guiri** , that I’ve been giving some more thoughts but that others are apparently happy not to give any heed. It tickles my self-esteem that people find my case convincing, that much is true, but like I’ve said, people jump on this bandwagon far too easily. \*\*Inner’s \*\*vote (the second one for scathach, [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14546276&postcount=544)) is particularly egregious in this regard - there’s absolutely no justification there. His wailing and gnashing of teeth over how he’s getting voted for being a nice and helpful guy and a better player than he in fact is - it’s getting old. If he were in fact so nice, and helpful, he’d make a better case against **Scathach**. As it stands, his vote is opportunistic. The bandwagon against **scathach** dismays me, and I will have no part of it. \*\*Inner’s \*\*vote in particular is weak. Add to that his general lack of genuine contribution as has been pointed out by me and others elsewhere (I am pressed for time, so I apologize that I cannot provide links to said allegations now) and (with the added advantage in mind that this vote switch will not create a tie) I will **vote Inner Stickler** Vote Count: Inner Stickler (4): Scathach, choie, Guiri, Švejk scathach (3): Inner Stickler, Hirka T’Bawa, Mental Guy fubbleskag (1): Special Ed Spec Ed (1): Mahaloth Septimus (1): Fubbleskag GuiriEnEspana (1): septimus ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/569 "2011-12-09T16:00:40Z")
> [@Svejk\_1](#): > > You know what, I don’t like \*\*scathach \*\*being in the lead, and I’m not comfortable with the way that she’s been band-wagoned. After I made my case, some reasonable questions have been asked by **Guiri** , that I’ve been giving some more thoughts but that others are apparently happy not to give any heed. It tickles my self-esteem that people find my case convincing, that much is true, but like I’ve said, people jump on this bandwagon far too easily. > > \*\*Inner’s \*\*vote (the second one for scathach, [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14546276&postcount=544)) is particularly egregious in this regard - there’s absolutely no justification there. His wailing and gnashing of teeth over how he’s getting voted for being a nice and helpful guy and a better player than he in fact is - it’s getting old. If he were in fact so nice, and helpful, he’d make a better case against **Scathach**. As it stands, his vote is opportunistic. > > The bandwagon against **scathach** dismays me, and I will have no part of it. \*\*Inner’s \*\*vote in particular is weak. Add to that his general lack of genuine contribution as has been pointed out by me and others elsewhere (I am pressed for time, so I apologize that I cannot provide links to said allegations now) and (with the added advantage in mind that this vote switch will not create a tie) I will > > **vote Inner Stickler** > > Vote Count: > > Inner Stickler (4): Scathach, choie, Guiri, Švejk > scathach (3): Inner Stickler, Hirka T’Bawa, Mental Guy > fubbleskag (1): Special Ed > Spec Ed (1): Mahaloth > Septimus (1): Fubbleskag > GuiriEnEspana (1): septimus Backpedal much? Was that supposed to be a one-off vote on a scum buddy that started a bandwagon? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/570 "2011-12-09T16:03:56Z")
> [@fubbleskag](#): > > I’ve explained the second, and I’m frankly surprised that the first needs explanation; maybe it’s more subtle than I originally intended - but it’ll come out eventually, I suspect. You should explain it, like, giving us the information that could potentially help town. > [@fubbleskag](#): > > for the record, Meeko was super pissed about that: I was not in that game, but it kind of sounds like he was mad that you had not shared accurate information that could potentially help town. I apologize if I’m not getting the situation right on this one, though. > [@fubbleskag](#): > > why would you discourage the sharing of information that could potentially help town? Don’t you kind of do that? ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/571 "2011-12-09T16:10:39Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > You should explain it, like, giving us the information that could potentially help town. it’s a parody of ed’s ‘new playing style’ which I’m not very fond of. glad I could enlighten town with this earth shattering information. > [@Mahaloth](#): > > I was not in that game, but it kind of sounds like he was mad that you had not shared accurate information that could potentially help town. I apologize if I’m not getting the situation right on this one, though. irrelevant, and I’ve already addressed this other game upthread in any case > [@Mahaloth](#): > > Don’t you kind of do that? nope. ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/572 "2011-12-09T16:12:08Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > Backpedal much? > > Was that supposed to be a one-off vote on a scum buddy that started a bandwagon? you have my attention ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/573 "2011-12-09T16:35:53Z")
Day ends in 20 minutes! Vote Count: Inner Stickler (4): Scathach, choie, Guiri, Svejk Scathach (3): Inner Stickler, Hirka T’Bawa, Mental Guy Septimus (1): Fubbleskag fubbleskag (1): Special Ed Spec Ed (1): Mahaloth GuiriEnEspana (1): septimus ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/574 "2011-12-09T16:49:57Z")
**Inner** and **scathach** seem to be behaving the way i’ve seen them in the past as town. i’m still most suspicious of **Mahaloth**. i’m also suspicious of **Special Ed**. **Special Ed** ’s new playstyle is already unhelpful to begin with but he seems to be more distracting than i’ve seen before. **Mahaloth** is voting for **Special Ed**. maybe it’s scum bussing fellow scum. if that’s the case i’ll help them. **Vote Special Ed** ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/575 "2011-12-09T17:10:03Z")
And with that, Inner Stickler was led to the gallows. It was high tide he had been finished–his last meal eaten, his last cigarette exhausted, his last conjugal visit completed. The watchers threw tear stained handkerchiefs and rotten fruit, and the scaffolding was a mass of shouts. Who would he be? Who would he be? **Inner Stickler, who was Nobody in Particular (Vanilla Town)**, is dead. Night 2 ends at 10:00 AM MST on Sunday, Dec 11. Get your PMs in before then. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/576 "2011-12-09T17:10:03Z")
Stupid meeting. I missed day’s end. I’ll let you know now, before the results come in, that I would have voted for scathach because of Svejk’s backpedal. I have no read on Inner Stickler, so I would have been okay with a 50/50 on those two. In case Trepa counts it: **Vote Scathach.** ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/577 "2011-12-09T17:10:06Z")
> [@gnarlycharlie](#): > > [ > > **Mahaloth** is voting for **Special Ed**. maybe it’s scum bussing fellow scum. if that’s the case i’ll help them. Dude, I’m the one you are suspicious of and that looks weird. If you are most suspicious of me, why agree with me? Are you postulating that I’m busing Ed? It sounds like speculation, but even if it is, why aid me in it? ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/578 "2011-12-09T17:11:24Z")
Definitely too late then. I let you down, town. It’s inexcusable to not have a vote in, and I’m sorry. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/579 "2011-12-09T17:18:52Z")
I don’t care if it’s scummy or not to say this: Fuckaduck. I’m sorry, **Inner Stickler**. ---
**Author:** ![Svejk\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@Svejk\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Svejk_1)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/580 "2011-12-09T17:22:17Z")
Well, shit. I guess I was wrong. Sorry **Stickler** ☹ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526.md?page=28) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526.md?page=30)