# Mafia: The Thrill of the Chase \[Newbie Friendly!\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 20, 2011, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526 "2011-11-20T06:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/621 "2011-12-11T00:00:59Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > I agree, it seems like a riskier move. But I would rarely say “Scum wouldn’t do that.” Absolutely, and I’m not saying they wouldn’t – just that it was risky/bold. > [@special\_ed](#): > > I disagree here. It also makes sense is Svejk is Town and Scathach is Scum equally well. Svejk wouldn’t have known Scathach’s alignment when he switched. Yeah, I agree. I realized that right after my second NETA and thought, oh to hell with it, I’m not gonna fake-edit a_gain_! So I guess **Scathach** is slightly more likely to be scum than **Svejk** , since out of the three scenarios that make the most sense, **Scathach** is scum in two of 'em, whereas **Svejk** is scum in only one. Assuming my math is right, which… is not a very good assumption. > [@special\_ed](#): > > oh good lord! > > Why didn’t firefox tell me that was a spelling error? > > ⭕smack: Hee! There was also a risky moment earlier when someone shortened one of our not-so-dear lurkers’ names to **Precam**. One misplaced vowel and that could’ve been a tad embarrassing! ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/622 "2011-12-11T00:03:25Z")
> [@choie](#): > > Yeah, I agree. I realized that right after my second NETA and thought, oh to hell with it, I’m not gonna fake-edit a_gain_! So I guess **Scathach** is slightly more likely to be scum than **Svejk** , since out of the three scenarios that make the most sense, **Scathach** is scum in two of 'em, whereas **Svejk** is scum in only one. > > Assuming my math is right, which… is not a very good assumption. Your math is right. But you’re making the assumption that all 4 scenarios are equally likely. I can’t say that they are. ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/623 "2011-12-11T00:11:38Z")
As someone who’s username regularly gets shortened to “Scat”, I’ve got nothing but sympathy. ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/624 "2011-12-11T04:10:50Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Dude, I’m the one you are suspicious of and that looks weird. If you are most suspicious of me, why agree with me? Are you postulating that I’m busing Ed? It sounds like speculation, but even if it is, why aid me in it? at the last vote count i read, i saw you had no votes. my vote alone would not have lynched you. since i found **Special Ed** the next most suspicious and he had a vote, i voted for him as well. my ‘helping’ you is not intentional. it wouldn’t be the first time scum made a one-off vote on a fellow scum. > [@choie](#): > > snipped > > **gnarlycharlie** vf **special ed** , post 574 > > Did not vote: **Astral Rejection, Precambrianmollusc, Orcenio, Silver Jan, gnarlycharlie, fluiddruid**. for the record i voted. the list actually shows my vote but still lists me as having not voted. > [@Scathach](#): > > As someone who’s username regularly gets shortened to “Scat”, I’ve got nothing but sympathy. what’s wrong with Scat? it makes me think you’re a jazz singer unless you’re referring to a more ‘gritty’ meaning. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/625 "2011-12-11T05:13:03Z")
Sorry, I’ll fix it for the next go-round. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/626 "2011-12-11T05:45:54Z")
Ooh sorry about that, **gnarlycharlie** –I didn’t notice that issue. Glad you weren’t among the dishonorable abstainers! 🙂 I hope we’re all here in ten hours. Gulp. That’s possible, isn’t it? If they go after **septimus** but he protects/fixes himself? BTW, does the doctor protect or fix? In other words, does the killing actually take place and then the doctor resurrects the victim, or does he prevent the action in the first place? I guess it really doesn’t matter, but I’m curious to know how the order of actions works. I’ve looked in some wikis but it’s not all that clear to me. ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/627 "2011-12-11T06:36:33Z")
> [@choie](#): > > Ooh sorry about that, **gnarlycharlie** –I didn’t notice that issue. Glad you weren’t among the dishonorable abstainers! 🙂 > > I hope we’re all here in ten hours. Gulp. That’s possible, isn’t it? If they go after **septimus** but he protects/fixes himself? > > BTW, does the doctor protect or fix? In other words, does the killing actually take place and then the doctor resurrects the victim, or does he prevent the action in the first place? I guess it really doesn’t matter, but I’m curious to know how the order of actions works. I’ve looked in some wikis but it’s not all that clear to me. traditionally, a doc prevents an attack. it’s actually contrary to the work of a RL doc who saves someone after an attack. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/628 "2011-12-11T06:47:51Z")
> [@gnarlycharlie](#): > > traditionally, a doc prevents an attack. it’s actually contrary to the work of a RL doc who saves someone after an attack. Ah, thanks. I guess it works if we think of the doc as giving flu shots or vaccines, and the scums’ night kill as some kind of infection or whatever. Now that I think of it, though, my assumption that there wouldn’t be a kill was stupid. **septimus** protecting himself is already a given–that’s what he said he was gonna do–so the scum wouldn’t waste an attempt on him. (Unless he was bluffing… but the scum would assume that, right? Ugh, WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM.) ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/629 "2011-12-11T15:00:39Z")
@ Scathach and Choie, about my vote on Inner… After reluctantly unvoting Septimus I looked around for a better case, I didn’t find Svejk’s case on Scathach compelling as it didn’t reflect my reasons for being suspicious of her which, admittedly, were early Day 1 pings that hadn’t merited a vote Day 1 but had not gone away. The case against Inner was a “lurking in plain sight” charge that I felt could be applied to a number of players. I slept on it and woke up to a series of votes which had piled up on Scathach with terrible or no reasoning and so it looked like a scummy attempt to save Inner. I mentioned voting with you two because I was aware that a vote on Inner was a contrast to my previously expressed suspicions. I was so sure of Inner’s scumminess over yours that I was prepared to join you in lynching him. Hrmph. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/630 "2011-12-11T16:58:25Z")
After a bevy of strategic discussion, the townies decided to pass the night with a seance. It was the perfect atmosphere: dark lights, hand-holding, secret table. The legs started rocking and the ball started clouding, and it had begun! **Astral Rejection** had risen up from under the table, off to deliver information. “Tell…my wife…I love her. The money…is hidden” Astral started to rasp. “Wait,” said septimus, “aren’t you still alive?” They all looked at the body who was projecting the rejection only to find out that no, no he was not. Someone had used the cover of darkness to do nefarious deeds! Who could have guessed! **Astral Rejection (Vanilla Town), is dead.** Also orcenio died at some point somehow **orcenio (Vanilla Town), is dead.** Tough luck, town! Hope you can pull this out! It is now Day 3. As usual, Day 3 ends at 10:00 AM MST, on Friday, Dec 16th. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/631 "2011-12-11T17:02:27Z")
Player List: Alive: 1. Mahaloth (m) 2. Scathach (f) 3. precambrianmollusc (m) 4. MentalGuy (m) 5. Hirka T’Bawa (m) 6. septimus (m) 7. choie (f) 8. special ed (m) 9. fubbleskag (m) 10. Silver Jan (f) 11. gnarlycharlie (m) 12. GuiriEnEspana (m) 13. Svejk (m) 14. fluiddruid (f) Dead: **Inner Stickler (m) (Vanilla Town)** **Astral Rejection (m) (Vanilla Town)** **gregorio (m) (Town Cop)** **orcenio (m) (Vanilla Town)** \*\* wevets (m) (Town Bodyguard)\*\* **fisha (f) (Vanilla Town)** ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/632 "2011-12-11T17:18:10Z")
**Day 1 Vote Count** : **fisha** (3): SilverJan(318), MentalGuy(323), InnerStickler(357) **Precambrian** (3): [del]Astral(193-331)[/del], Septimus(214), Wevets(278), fubbleskag(359) **Wevets** (3): fluiddruid(266), Precambrian(279), Astral(364) **Choie** (2): Guiri(82), SpecialEd(351) **SilverJan** (1): [del]Svejk(119-329)[/del], fisha(302) **InnerStickler** (1): [del]Guiri(81-82)[/del], Choie(360) **SpecialEd** (1): Svejk(361) **Fubbleskag** (1): Mahaloth(235), [del]Astral(331-364)[/del] **Mahaloth** (1): [del]MentalGuy(254-323)[/del], GnarlyCharlie(370) **Svejk** (0): [del]Precambrian(136-310)[/del], [del]Mahaloth(159-235)[/del] **Fluiddruid** (0): [del]Choie(207-360)[/del], [del]Wevets(219-278)[/del] **Not voting** (4): Scathach, gregorio, Hirka T’Bawa, Orcenio **Day 2 Vote Count** : **InnerStickler** (4): Scathach(448), choie(524), Guiri(558), Svejk(568) **Scathach** (3): [del]Svejk(520-568)[/del], InnerStickler(544), HirkaT’Bawa(548), MentalGuy(549) **SpecialEd** (2): Mahaloth(528), GnarlyCharlie(574) **Septimus** (1): [del]Guiri(510-538)[/del], [del]Astral(513-532)[/del], [del]MentalGuy(522-533)[/del], fubbleskag(525-536,560) **fubbleskag** (1): SpecialEd(543) **Guiri** (1): septimus(505) **Not Voting** (5): Astral, Precambrian, orcenio, SilverJan, Fluiddruid ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/633 "2011-12-11T17:20:54Z")
Farewell Astral and Orcenio. One death is better than two, Septimus, did you self protect? ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/634 "2011-12-11T17:27:09Z")
I never… told her that… I loved her… Herk! Blehhhhh… ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/635 "2011-12-11T17:31:44Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Farewell Astral and Orcenio. > > One death is better than two, Septimus, did you self protect? um, yes, one death is better than 2, but that was two deaths. What an odd thing to say. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/636 "2011-12-11T17:32:45Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > I never… told her that… I loved her… > > Herk! Blehhhhh… Don’t worry. I’ll take care of her ;)😃 ---
**Author:** ![Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/db5fbb/32.png) [@Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hirka_T_Bawa)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/637 "2011-12-11T17:37:22Z")
Was Orcino a mod kill? ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/638 "2011-12-11T17:40:44Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Farewell Astral and Orcenio. > > One death is better than two, Septimus, did you self protect? I think you mean two deaths are better than three, right? Are we assuming **orcenio** was a mod kill or a vig kill? Sorry, **Astral Rejection**. Geeze, you were another one who was starting to ping me as scum. My instincts are _really_ off this game. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/639 "2011-12-11T17:44:25Z")
Yeah, I figured Orcenio was a mod kill and was referring to the lack of a second Night kill. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/640 "2011-12-11T17:51:13Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Yeah, I figured Orcenio was a mod kill and was referring to the lack of a second Night kill. But isn’t it usual–at least from what I’ve read in other Mafia threads–for mods to announce mod kills? I’m thinking vig is more likely. As far as your question about **septimus** , his announcing that he was self-protecting probably made him a useless target for scum. Why would they waste an attempt on him? On the plus side, at least they only took out vanillas. Not that I mourn the loss of a vanilla any less keenly than a power role, but… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526.md?page=33)