# Mafia: The Thrill of the Chase \[Newbie Friendly!\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 20, 2011, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526 "2011-11-20T06:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/861 "2011-12-16T16:23:55Z")
Well I guess I should have previewed again. **special ed** , could you weigh in quickly please? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/862 "2011-12-16T16:25:57Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > @ Mahaloth, Choie and Special Ed have one vote each. Fubbles has two. You’ve made your preference clear, if you’re not going to vote Svejk, why not double up on Special Ed or push Fubbles into the lead? Or even vote Gnarly? > > Similar question to Gnarly: Mahaloth and Special Ed were your primary suspects, you’ve made your suspicion of Hirka clear but now you’ve a chance to lynch Mahaloth or push Special Ed closer to the lead, why keep the one off? OK, this is why my gut tells me to trust your gut. \*\*Vote: gnarlycharlie \*\* ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/863 "2011-12-16T16:27:11Z")
Well, shit (no students in the room, I can cuss) Did I just create a 3 way tie? ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/864 "2011-12-16T16:28:02Z")
Uh, yeah. You did. Thinking. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/865 "2011-12-16T16:28:11Z")
I should have caught up on the posts that happened while I was catching up :smack: Who is here? Let’s solve this. I have a meeting in 10 minutes! Maybe I can avoid it.] ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/866 "2011-12-16T16:29:50Z")
I’m considering shifting my vote, ed. Can you at least give me a reason on gnarlycharlie? I’m trying to go substantively here and I just haven’t examined him particularly, and time is short. ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/867 "2011-12-16T16:29:54Z")
holy shit lol ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/868 "2011-12-16T16:30:26Z")
I’m not confident in my vote for Sejk. He’s right when he accuses me of confirmation bias. But that doesn’t mean he isn’t guilty. I find the case against gnarly compelling. I find the case against Mahaloth somewhat…no pretty much it does nothing for me. fubbles I could vote for. I just don’t like what went down between us yesterDay ---
**Author:** ![Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/db5fbb/32.png) [@Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hirka_T_Bawa)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/869 "2011-12-16T16:31:21Z")
By my count, about an half hour till EOD. Lot’s of changes in votes this late. I’m still happy with my vote on **Svejk** , however, between **Mahaloth** and \*\*gnarlycharlie \*\* I think **gnarly** would be the better of the two votes. I might be able to be convinced to switch my vote onto **gnarly** , if for no other reason I hate going into night with a tie! On Preview: A three way tie! No, I can’t allow that at all! **Unvote Svejk** **Vote gnarlycharlie** ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/870 "2011-12-16T16:33:27Z")
> [@Hirka\_T\_Bawa](#): > > By my count, about an half hour till EOD. Lot’s of changes in votes this late. > > I’m still happy with my vote on **Svejk** , however, between **Mahaloth** and \*\*gnarlycharlie \*\*I think **gnarly** would be the better of the two votes. I might be able to be convinced to switch my vote onto **gnarly** , if for no other reason I hate going into night with a tie! can you convince me to switch back to Svejk? For gnarly, it’s the reasons for voting. Finding me suspicious, but not voting for me. I’m looking for guiri’s post where he summed it up, give me a minute ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/871 "2011-12-16T16:41:32Z")
A quick review of guiri’s posts (at least from 675 to 806) These posts relate to his case against gnarly: 675, 677, 679, 681, 683, 784, 806 And these to his case agaisnt fubble (which can be combined with the odd behavior earlier in the game) 756, 760 ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/872 "2011-12-16T16:42:17Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > I’m not confident in my vote for Sejk. He’s right when he accuses me of confirmation bias. But that doesn’t mean he isn’t guilty. > > I find the case against gnarly compelling. > > I find the case against Mahaloth somewhat…no pretty much it does nothing for me. > > fubbles I could vote for. I just don’t like what went down between us yesterDay I think we’re pretty much on the same page then, with the exception that I don’t really know enough about gnarly to be really comfortable. I don’t like the Mahaloth vote especially on review. I never had a scum vibe on Mahaloth to begin with but to me he seems to be a pretty easy target for a vote. On a gut level too I have been increasingly suspicious of MentalGuy in particular, can’t quite put my finger on it, but he’s someone I mentally have on my list to investigate more thoroughly for tomorrow. That said. Choie could be right that Sjevk is just a bit defensive due to newness – something I definitely have done – and I have been known to dig in my heels about someone too. My confidence level on that point is definitely lower after having time to reflect. I can’t say I have strong reasons to believe gnarly is scum, but I don’t like where we’re at. On a hasty re-read I think ed is probably right that the reasons for voting just aren’t there, and some of gnarly’s posts seem designed to provoke and deflect rather than to really investigate what’s going on. So, screw it. I don’t want any ambiguity or shuffling around at the last minute to put us back into a tie state. Let’s see what happens. **unvote Sjevk** **vote gnarlycharlie** ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/873 "2011-12-16T16:43:38Z")
Well, that should settle it ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/874 "2011-12-16T16:44:49Z")
This is probably vague: “I don’t like the Mahaloth vote especially on review. I never had a scum vibe on Mahaloth to begin with but to me he seems to be a pretty easy target for a vote.” What I mean by this is that Mahaloth has been a bit defensive at times (no offense meant, just my perception) and it’s easy to vote for someone who gets a bit wound up, even though it’s not a particularly good scum tell. In the heat of the moment, it’s often hard to provide a good defense and saying one wrong thing or even not being terribly persuasive tends to make other people knee-jerk vote. That’s what I mean here. I don’t mean it’s a good vote, just an easy one. ---
**Author:** ![Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/db5fbb/32.png) [@Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hirka_T_Bawa)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/875 "2011-12-16T16:46:17Z")
In the last 20 minutes? Would probably take longer to compose my case… Besides, looking back on **gnarly** , I have seen the case against him, and I’m not against it. Honestly, I did have some pings against him, but didn’t want to vote him since I thought it seemed a bit OMGUSish. I’m content with a **gnarlycharlie** lynch. ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/876 "2011-12-16T16:52:57Z")
this is better than anything on daytime television ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/877 "2011-12-16T16:53:52Z")
Oh, _you would say that_, Mr. Fubbleskag, but I know you’ve been snooping around for my family’s secret deed to the old Smith place! ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/878 "2011-12-16T16:54:29Z")
Entertaining sure but I hate all these last minute vote switches, even if they’re on my candidate. Fingers crossed. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/879 "2011-12-16T17:04:03Z")
I’m sticking with my vote. I haven’t fully trusted **Svejk** since his last–minute switch to **Inner** and his subsequent screeds haven’t won me over. Not that it matters because suddenly everyone’s throwing mud at **gnarlycharlie** , which may be accurate (some of the folks I trust have been voting for him) but I’m just more in favor of a **Svejk** lynch. If I thought there had been a chance of getting **Scathach** on the gallows, that’s where my vote would’ve gone. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/880 "2011-12-16T17:04:52Z")
> [@fubbleskag](#): > > my last few posts are incredibly speculative, perhaps even bordering on paranoid. but it’s certainly a possibility. and even if it’s not true, it’s something I might try one day if I’m ever lucky enough to play as scum. > > back to the more timely dilemma. the more I think about it, the more I realize that my vote on \*\*Mahaloth \*\*is likely to be tainted; he rubs me the wrong way and I can’t honestly say with any certainty if it’s because he’s scum or not. I cannot bring myself to remove my vote from \*\*Mahaloth \*\*if it will mean certain death for **Svejk**. however, I did just notice **Silver Jan** ’s vote on myself, which may provide an out. so, in an effort to be honest with my vote, and following my own logic from an earlier post: > > **unvote Mahaloth** > **vote fubbleskag** > > **Septimus** , if you’re still online and have any town leaning on **Svejk** , I’d ask that you switch your vote to myself in order to save him. WTF are you doing, the only time I have ever voted for myself was when I was scum and couldn’t see a way out, makes me think that my vote is good [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526.md?page=43) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526.md?page=45)