# Mafia: The Thrill of the Chase \[Newbie Friendly!\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 20, 2011, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526 "2011-11-20T06:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/81 "2011-11-26T22:49:59Z")
> [@Trepa\_Mayfield](#): > > It is now Day 1. > [@Trepa\_Mayfield](#): > > Really, though, what you’re afraid of is those people out there who hang out in bars and will leave you in the lurch. > [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > @ **Scathach** , fancy a pint? It looks like I’ve been left in the lurch. > [@Mahaloth](#): > > Confirmed. Scum again? > [@special\_ed](#): > > me too!!1! A secret message? Is it OK to speculate about the setup in the game? With 20 players, 4, max 5 scum, possibly some PFK/3rd party (the crazy role?), standard roles such as cop, doc, roleblocker. Possibly a godfather. Maybe a couple of masons and at least 11 vanillas. Thoughts? @ **Choie** , you mentioned that you write romance novels with a horror twist, how would the staring match proceed in your version of Eduardo’s story? **Vote InnerStickler** For being first to confirm, scum are uber eager to get started. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/82 "2011-11-26T22:57:13Z")
NETA **Unvote Vote Choie** For being the first and for doing it in green. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/83 "2011-11-26T23:01:12Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > @ **Choie** , you mentioned that you write romance novels with a horror twist, how would the staring match proceed in your version of Eduardo’s story? Ooh good question. Since I tend to write angsty stuff and love tortured heroes, I’d say most likely Eduardo would be pushing our heroine away / abandoning her for noble reasons, because he has some dark secret that he fears could put his beloved in peril. This isn’t to say that Eduardo _isn’t_ dangerous to the heroine–ideally he has a serious dark side that could genuinely wreak havoc on others. But he’d be fighting his impulses and would either a) sacrifice himself to save the heroine, or b) the heroine would show how strong and brave she is, and thus capable (and willing) enough to deal with whatever Eduardo’s problem is. For a happy ending, they’d both fight the demon (inner or external) together; for a sad ending, the heroine would be forced to kill Eduardo or he ends up killing himself. So, erm, yeah. That’s how I’d probably go. That’s usually how most gothic romances go, actually. > [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > **Vote InnerStickler** > For being first to confirm, scum are uber eager to get started. In the interest of justice, I must admit [I was the first to confirm](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14501950&postcount=69), before the opening color was even posted. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/84 "2011-11-26T23:02:19Z")
Oh crap, forgot to bleach the voting color. Sorry about that, **Trepa Mayfield**. I instinctively went to edit it out, but then remembered the “no edit rule” so we’re stuck with the blue. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/85 "2011-11-26T23:03:37Z")
Confirming. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/86 "2011-11-26T23:05:28Z")
NETA: Blimey, we simulposted. I didn’t realize we weren’t supposed to post in green – isn’t that how posts directly to the mod work? But either way, the anti-choie vote is a fair cop, since as I mentioned earlier, I was the first to confirm. And I’m off to a great start as usual. Argh. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/87 "2011-11-26T23:14:06Z")
Yay, virgin vote count! This is always the most exciting part of modding. Vote Count: Choie (1): GuiriEnEspana > [@choie](#): > > Oh crap, forgot to bleach the voting color. Sorry about that, **Trepa Mayfield**. I instinctively went to edit it out, but then remembered the “no edit rule” so we’re stuck with the blue. Sorry. We cool. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/88 "2011-11-26T23:21:44Z")
> [@Trepa\_Mayfield](#): > > We cool. **no, no not cool. I say we mod kill her!** _Last Edited by special ed: Tomorrow at 5:21 PM._ ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/89 "2011-11-26T23:22:21Z")
Wow, I’m impressed. Were you inspired by Twilight? Edward and so on? Or does that saga just follow the same formula? Why did you make Eduardo the bad guy? Was it the tic tac breath? Your post reminded me of the “lovers” role, that’s also a possible role in the game unless the color has absolutely no relevance whatsoever. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/90 "2011-11-26T23:24:00Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > _Last Edited by special ed: Tomorrow at 5:21 PM._ Giggles! ---
**Author:** ![gregorio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/fbc32d/32.png) [@gregorio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gregorio)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/91 "2011-11-27T00:08:28Z")
Confirmed ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/92 "2011-11-27T00:12:39Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Your post reminded me of the “lovers” role, that’s also a possible role in the game unless the color has absolutely no relevance whatsoever. He said color is just color in the rules post of the thread. Skimming is a scum tell. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/93 "2011-11-27T00:42:04Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Wow, I’m impressed. Were you inspired by Twilight? Edward and so on? Or does that saga just follow the same formula? > > Why did you make Eduardo the bad guy? Was it the tic tac breath? > > Your post reminded me of the “lovers” role, that’s also a possible role in the game unless the color has absolutely no relevance whatsoever. Gasp! Accusing a writer of being influenced by _Twilight_ is **definitely** a scum tell! Heh no, _Twilight_ followed a pretty standard formula, particularly for paranormal romances where the guy’s a (vampire/werewolf/demon/werehamster) and the girl is mortal. Actually I didn’t think of Eduardo as the bad guy, just a tortured hero type – In fact, I think it’d be easier to read that color as implying Eduardo is a villain in **Trepa** ’s color. Either way, the heroine/focal character is _usually_ a protagonist, though certainly there are exceptions to that rule, so basically I just picked from the romance cheat-sheet and decided to go with mistaken heroine/misunderstood tortured hero archetypes. Classic gothic stuff. Wow this is hella off-topic. Sorry. NaNoWriMo has me thinking like this. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/94 "2011-11-27T00:46:41Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Is it OK to speculate about the setup in the game? With 20 players, 4, max 5 scum, possibly some PFK/3rd party (the crazy role?), standard roles such as cop, doc, roleblocker. Possibly a godfather. Maybe a couple of masons and at least 11 vanillas. Thoughts? It’s newbfriendly, though so I don’t know. I’d say account for a survivor and a serial killer and a mixed powers scum team but don’t be surprised if there’s just a hella vanillas. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/95 "2011-11-27T01:10:32Z")
Confirmed. ---
**Author:** ![Svejk\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@Svejk\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Svejk_1)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/96 "2011-11-27T01:14:55Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Is it OK to speculate about the setup in the game? With 20 players, 4, max 5 scum, possibly some PFK/3rd party (the crazy role?), standard roles such as cop, doc, roleblocker. Possibly a godfather. Maybe a couple of masons and at least 11 vanillas. Thoughts? [QUOTE=Inner Stickler] It’s newbfriendly, though so I don’t know. I’d say account for a survivor and a serial killer and a mixed powers scum team but don’t be surprised if there’s just a hella vanillas. [/QUOTE] Newb here - care to tell me a little bit about what PFK means? Also, I’ve tried to familiarize myself with the different roles, but I have not come across a roleblocker. I am also not familiar with any of the roles that Inner Stickler mentions. What do they do? ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/97 "2011-11-27T01:20:24Z")
PFK stands for Plays For Keeps. A PFK is a third party player who can steal the win from town or scum. Some call these roles exclusive because they exclude others from winning. Other roles are inclusive, they win with town or scum. Survivor and Serial Killer are examples of each. A survivor must simply avoid being killed and win with either side as long as they’re still alive at Endgame. A Serial Killer is a lone party with a NK, and they must also be alive at Endgame and be the last surviving player. They take the win from either side. ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/98 "2011-11-27T03:22:07Z")
Confirming. ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/99 "2011-11-27T08:12:34Z")
confirming! ---
**Author:** ![MentalGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/439d5e/32.png) [@MentalGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MentalGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-the-thrill-of-the-chase-newbie-friendly/603526/100 "2011-11-27T14:21:13Z")
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