# Mafia V:  The Cult of Sekham

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 25, 2007, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340 "2007-06-25T16:47:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/101 "2007-06-25T21:47:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Mtgman]  
(snip) and then post “Ex Cathedra”( **infallibally** ) about that topic? (snip)  
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(bolding mine)  
infallibally: A Perfectly Cromulent Word.

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**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/102 "2007-06-25T22:19:43Z")

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Confirm I’m in.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/103 "2007-06-25T22:21:57Z")

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I’m here…did I make it in time?

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**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/104 "2007-06-25T22:31:48Z")

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I’m getting tingly! A good chunk of M4 is here; that’s great!

Yeah, so **storyteller** has been both Godfather **and** Captain Flint…

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**Author:** ![MonkeyMensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@MonkeyMensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMensch)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/105 "2007-06-25T22:38:07Z")

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Tick tock.  
Tick tock.  
Time is running, Clarice.

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**Author:** ![MonkeyMensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@MonkeyMensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMensch)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/106 "2007-06-25T22:39:11Z")

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Not that I’m still psycho or anything…

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/107 "2007-06-25T22:43:54Z")

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[QUOTE=NAF1138]  
Why does TheMadPig get slot 30? He special this game too?  
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I am always special 😛

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/108 "2007-06-25T22:43:57Z")

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[QUOTE=ArizonaTeach]  
I’m getting tingly! A good chunk of M4 is here; that’s great!

Yeah, so **storyteller** has been both Godfather **and** Captain Flint…  
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He was only a Flint substitute though 😉

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/109 "2007-06-25T22:45:23Z")

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[QUOTE=DiggitCamara]  
Hey! That attitude is reserved for ME! C’mon, I had to talk **Cookies** into unvoting me in the last Day of M3…  
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Its not you, its me. 😃

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/110 "2007-06-25T22:45:52Z")

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When the game starts, are we using this board or another one?

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**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/111 "2007-06-25T22:46:39Z")

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Looking over the roles again, BM, I wonder if this isn’t tilted a little too pro-town if you have the standard number of scum. (BM hasn’t sent out roles yet, so don’t read anything in to me bringing this up).

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/112 "2007-06-25T22:57:47Z")

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So, now that all of the the squids are out of the bag over on the Hispaniola, I can say that I was quite thrilled to get a scum role for that game, and I was bummed that I ended up being over-extended and having to sub out only two Days in ☹ Consider this a cautionary tale for those of you contemplating playing two games at once while getting married. 😃

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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/113 "2007-06-25T23:03:02Z")

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[QUOTE=ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]  
So, now that all of the the squids are out of the bag over on the Hispaniola, I can say that I was quite thrilled to get a scum role for that game, and I was bummed that I ended up being over-extended and having to sub out only two Days in ☹ Consider this a cautionary tale for those of you contemplating playing two games at once while getting married. 😃  
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Well… to be honest, I never subbed out in that game, but I certainly should have.

I simply didn’t think I was much longer for this world in the M3 game, and ended up spending almost all my free time on it to the bitter end.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/114 "2007-06-25T23:12:26Z")

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[QUOTE=DiggitCamara]  
Well… to be honest, I never subbed out in that game, but I certainly should have.

I simply didn’t think I was much longer for this world in the M3 game, and ended up spending almost all my free time on it to the bitter end.  
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On that note, looking at the roles and the number of people playing, this isn’t going to be a whole lot smaller than M2 was. (I know 37 is the quoted number of players, but 3 died before anything happened, so we really only started with 34 and a little extra info) Unless Blaster is planning to start at night like I did, we are going to be doing this (many of us at least) for a LONG time. If you can’t stay in the game, ask for a sub when the time comes, or better yet drop out now.

Its a team game, not being able to play hurts your whole team. Be considerate.

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**Author:** ![MonkeyMensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@MonkeyMensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMensch)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/115 "2007-06-25T23:20:12Z")

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I ask to be taken out now.

It was a wave of nostalgia and giddiness that made me say, “I’m in!”, to begin with.

I really won’t have time. Thanks for reminding me of the reality of M2, there, **NAF**. I’ll watch with bated breathed interest, however.

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/116 "2007-06-25T23:28:09Z")

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Agh! The bloody Jaxx! Switching dates less than 48 hours before the show. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=zuma]  
Looking over the roles again, BM, I wonder if this isn’t tilted a little too pro-town if you have the standard number of scum. (BM hasn’t sent out roles yet, so don’t read anything in to me bringing this up).  
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I understand it kind of looks that way, but some things to consider:

There’s several pro-town roles that will show up as “Non-Believer”. This is intended to nerf the power of the investigative roles a bit.

The Psychopath will have incentive to go after Believers just as much as Cultists or he can’t win.

Similar for the Crusader, he will have incentive to go after Non-Believers just as much as Cultists.

The recruit, while I definitely attempted to nerf it’s ability to “reset” late in the game, still has a lot of power.

The Avatar’s “revenge” is statistically more likely to hit a pro-town role and potentially make for some interesting voting patterns (as \*\*storyteller \*\* pointed out).  
It’s funny, because I was actually a bit worried I had it too in favor of the Cultists, but when I ran some numbers, it came out just about to a dead heat.

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/117 "2007-06-25T23:34:40Z")

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[QUOTE=MonkeyMensch]  
I ask to be taken out now.

It was a wave of nostalgia and giddiness that made me say, “I’m in!”, to begin with.

I really won’t have time. Thanks for reminding me of the reality of M2, there, **NAF**. I’ll watch with bated breathed interest, however.  
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☹

I think the large part of the problem with M2 wasn’t so much the size, as it was a few loud, plain citizens (or might as well have been) that got a little bit stubborn and pretty much ran away with the game. I really don’t think it will get nearly that bad.

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/118 "2007-06-25T23:51:17Z")

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[QUOTE=MonkeyMensch]  
I ask to be taken out now.

It was a wave of nostalgia and giddiness that made me say, “I’m in!”, to begin with.

I really won’t have time. Thanks for reminding me of the reality of M2, there, **NAF**. I’ll watch with bated breathed interest, however.  
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Aw, I was looking forward to there being another monkey to fling poo with. ☹

How 'bout just telling us if you get a scum role so we can kill you straight off? 😃

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2007, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/119 "2007-06-25T23:52:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Blaster Master]  
☹

I think the large part of the problem with M2 wasn’t so much the size, as it was a few loud, plain citizens (or might as well have been) that got a little bit stubborn and pretty much ran away with the game. I really don’t think it will get nearly that bad.  
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I don’t think it will be either. I just wanted to say something for the people who haven’t really played before. I didn’t really follow M3 but I know M2 and Pirates were both hurt by the number of people who either weren’t really playing or who needed to sub out.

It was supposed to me more of a, “make sure you know that this is a commitment” post, than a “get out if you can’t spend 5-6 hours a day playing” post.

I am doubly sad becasue I had looked forward to playing with Monkey Mench. But if he really doesn’t think he has time to play, it is better for him to leave now than to have to drop out.

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2007, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/120 "2007-06-26T00:09:06Z")

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[QUOTE=NAF1138]  
I don’t think it will be either. I just wanted to say something for the people who haven’t really played before. I didn’t really follow M3 but I know M2 and Pirates were both hurt by the number of people who either weren’t really playing or who needed to sub out.

It was supposed to me more of a, “make sure you know that this is a commitment” post, than a “get out if you can’t spend 5-6 hours a day playing” post.

I am doubly sad becasue I had looked forward to playing with Monkey Mench. But if he really doesn’t think he has time to play, it is better for him to leave now than to have to drop out.  
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Now, now… don’t exaggerate. You know full well that it only takes 4 hours a day. 😉  
Well, if **MonkeyMensch** is out. We still need two more.

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