# Mafia V: The Cult of Sekham **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 25, 2007, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340 "2007-06-25T16:47:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2007, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/141 "2007-06-26T14:11:21Z")
Below is the final player list. Subs are at unnumbered. I will begin sending out PMs in a moment. You do not need to respond to my PM, but if you do not receive one within the next few hours, please PM me or post here. ```auto 1 ArizonaTeach 2 USCDiver 3 Idle Thoughts 4 Zuma 5 HockeyMonkey 6 storyteller0910 7 NAF1138 8 sachertorte 9 SnakesCatLady 10 Malacandra 11 Mtgman 12 Clockwork Jackal 13 Hal Briston 14 Pleonast 15 DiggitCamara 16 Fretful Porpentine 17 Captain Carrot 18 Pasta 19 FlyingCowOfDoom 20 Scuba_Ben 21 Queuing 22 Zeriel 23 MonkeyMensch 24 ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 25 Autolycus 26 HazelNutCoffee 27 MHaye 28 fluiddruid 29 MadTheSwine 30 Captain Klutz KatiRoo Dragoness ``` ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2007, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/142 "2007-06-26T14:12:24Z")
[QUOTE=sachertorte] I’m still confused, but that’s okay. I’ll just wait to see what shakes out. I would like to point out that \*\*Dragoness \*\*has not had the opportunity to play before. [/QUOTE] Confused about the rules? Now’s a good time to ask. ---
**Author:** ![Dragoness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@Dragoness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragoness)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2007, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/143 "2007-06-26T14:14:15Z")
Cool, I’ll be following avidly. **Blaster** , I think you’ve done a fantastic job with this ruleset. Trying to iron out specific problems from other games especially. I think you’ve created a fabulous mess (in the best possible way) and it’ll be fun to watch. Clarification: a few roles “investigate as” differently from their actual role. How much information will be revealed when these guys die? For instance, if town lynches the prophet, do they know they’ve lynched the prophet? Or do they think they hung a believer? ---
**Author:** ![FlyingCowOfDoom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyingcowofdoom/32/21776_2.png) [@FlyingCowOfDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingCowOfDoom)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2007, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/144 "2007-06-26T14:15:46Z")
I’d like to suggest (and you may already have thought of this) that if you are making a public vote count spreadsheet, be sure to note post number on the spreadsheet. This way we’ll know how recent the count is. –FCOD ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2007, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/145 "2007-06-26T14:21:50Z")
[QUOTE=Dragoness] Cool, I’ll be following avidly. **Blaster** , I think you’ve done a fantastic job with this ruleset. Trying to iron out specific problems from other games especially. I think you’ve created a fabulous mess (in the best possible way) and it’ll be fun to watch. Clarification: a few roles “investigate as” differently from their actual role. How much information will be revealed when these guys die? For instance, if town lynches the prophet, do they know they’ve lynched the prophet? Or do they think they hung a believer? [/QUOTE] As with the normal rules, death reveals all. That is, when anyone dies, regardless of how their true role investigates. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2007, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/146 "2007-06-26T14:22:29Z")
What happens if the Avatar is night-killed rather than lynched? ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2007, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/147 "2007-06-26T14:30:29Z")
_paces back and forth nervously_ ---
**Author:** ![FlyingCowOfDoom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyingcowofdoom/32/21776_2.png) [@FlyingCowOfDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingCowOfDoom)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2007, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/148 "2007-06-26T14:53:56Z")
[QUOTE=fluiddruid] What happens if the Avatar is night-killed rather than lynched? [/QUOTE] My interpretation is that if the Avatar is killed, whoever is responsible for killing him is also killed. So, if the Avatar is killed by a single player, that player is also killed. If the Avatar is killed by a vote, one of the voters (randomly selected) is killed. –FCOD ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2007, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/149 "2007-06-26T14:54:10Z")
[QUOTE=Blaster Master] Confused about the rules? Now’s a good time to ask. [/QUOTE] Nah, I’m good. I was confused as to who the 30th player was. I was still under the impression that MM was out, but it looks like PM discusssion says otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2007, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/150 "2007-06-26T14:57:03Z")
[QUOTE=fluiddruid] What happens if the Avatar is night-killed rather than lynched? [/QUOTE] That is a good question. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2007, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/151 "2007-06-26T14:57:12Z")
[QUOTE=FlyingCowOfDoom] My interpretation is that if the Avatar is killed, whoever is responsible for killing him is also killed. So, if the Avatar is killed by a single player, that player is also killed. If the Avatar is killed by a vote, one of the voters (randomly selected) is killed. –FCOD [/QUOTE] I disagree. The rules state that Sekham will be unaware of who performed a night kill of the Avatar. Unawareness == no kill. ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2007, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/152 "2007-06-26T15:02:44Z")
[QUOTE=Fretful Porpentine] Um, no, the only previous game I’ve played in was Mafia 2, and I was a Citizen. [/QUOTE] Yeah, I wasn’t sure about you. All the rest were masons though. And it just struck me as funny that we’d clustered like that. In other words, it was a MPSIMS. ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2007, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/153 "2007-06-26T15:04:45Z")
[QUOTE=sachertorte] I disagree. The rules state that Sekham will be unaware of who performed a night kill of the Avatar. Unawareness == no kill. [/QUOTE] This was my intention. Here is the relevant quote from the rules: > [@](#): > > Because the Crusader and Psychopath operate in the veil of night, Sekham will be unaware either is the culprit if he targets and kills the Avatar at night. ---
**Author:** ![FlyingCowOfDoom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyingcowofdoom/32/21776_2.png) [@FlyingCowOfDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingCowOfDoom)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2007, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/154 "2007-06-26T15:05:19Z")
[QUOTE=sachertorte] I disagree. The rules state that Sekham will be unaware of who performed a night kill of the Avatar. Unawareness == no kill. [/QUOTE] You’re absolutely right. I didn’t finish reading the entire role before I spoke. My interpretation is now the same as yours: the Avatar’s ability only applies to lynchings. –FCOD ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2007, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/155 "2007-06-26T15:06:36Z")
**Zeriel** , please turn on PMs. All other PMs have been sent. If you have not received one, please let me know. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Klutz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captain_klutz/32/4993_2.png) [@Captain\_Klutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Klutz)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2007, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/156 "2007-06-26T15:07:31Z")
Okay **Blaster Master** , I’ve got my role. It’s now 1 o’clock in the morning so I’m off to get some sleep. ---
**Author:** ![FlyingCowOfDoom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyingcowofdoom/32/21776_2.png) [@FlyingCowOfDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingCowOfDoom)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2007, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/157 "2007-06-26T15:16:06Z")
I got my role. But BM…did you really think it would be a good idea to have **Sekham** as a fair secret role? I mean, I think it might unbalance the game a little bit, what with the invulnerability and the ability to smite townspeople at will… –FCOD ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2007, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/158 "2007-06-26T15:20:38Z")
[QUOTE=FlyingCowOfDoom] I got my role. But BM…did you really think it would be a good idea to have **Sekham** as a fair secret role? I mean, I think it might unbalance the game a little bit, what with the invulnerability and the ability to smite townspeople at will… –FCOD [/QUOTE] Well it WAS balanced until you went and blabbed it. Now the super secret role of Nairu knows who you are and will smite you instead! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![SnakesCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@SnakesCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakesCatLady)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2007, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/159 "2007-06-26T15:23:11Z")
Got my PM. I’m starting my game sheets… ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2007, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340/160 "2007-06-26T15:32:38Z")
Here is the current play list. Subs are listed unnumbered at the bottom. When subs are needed, I will PM the top five on the list, and the first to post in the thread will receive the spot. I will post the beginning after lunch. ```auto 1 ArizonaTeach 2 USCDiver 3 Idle Thoughts 4 Zuma 5 Hockey Monkey 6 storyteller0910 7 NAF1138 8 sachertorte 9 SnakesCatLady 10 Malacandra 11 Mtgman 12 Clockwork Jackal 13 Hal Briston 14 Pleonast 15 DiggitCamara 16 Fretful Porpentine 17 Captain Carrot 18 Pasta 19 FlyingCowOfDoom 20 Scuba_Ben 21 Queuing 22 Zeriel 23 MonkeyMensch 24 ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 25 Autolycus 26 HazelNutCoffee 27 MHaye 28 fluiddruid 29 MadTheSwine 30 Captain Klutz Count Millit the Frail KatiRoo Dragoness Nava ``` [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-v-the-cult-of-sekham/409340.md?page=9)