# magellan01 - epitome of racist Republican

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 18, 2014, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975 "2014-03-18T02:08:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/261 "2014-03-20T16:00:20Z")

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Well, magellan won’t engage with me (understandable on his part, certainly) and you look sufficiently like a yarn ball that might hold my interest briefly.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/262 "2014-03-20T16:05:48Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> You might be attempting some kind of rope-a-dope, or you might just be dumb.

It’s the latter.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/263 "2014-03-20T16:14:35Z")

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I thought it minimally polite to leave the option open.

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/264 "2014-03-20T16:16:59Z")

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I’m actually very intelligent and well-educated. I’m sure you guys are too. But I’m also patient and I don’t get all huffy when a misunderstanding occurs. You should try that.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/265 "2014-03-20T16:17:47Z")

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Heh, you think I’m huffy. That’s adorable.

Afterthought: you think you misunderstood me only one time - that’s doubly adorable.

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/266 "2014-03-20T16:18:57Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Heh, you think I’m huffy. That’s adorable.

Yes, you are being huffy.

But like I said, we should just move on. So you go ahead and throw out a few more snide insults to make yourself feel better and then we’ll be done.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/267 "2014-03-20T16:21:35Z")

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> [@lance\_strongarm](#):
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> I’m actually very intelligent and well-educated.

You should try incorporating that into your posts sometime.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/268 "2014-03-20T16:21:49Z")

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You getting a bit tattered, yarn-ball?

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/269 "2014-03-20T16:44:04Z")

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He barely even registers what you’re saying to him. Do the math; he’s got twice as many posts as anybody else in like eight threads at a time. Ain’t no time for reading or thinking. He’s distilled internet chain-yanking to its purest form.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/270 "2014-03-20T16:51:44Z")

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> [@lance\_strongarm](#):
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> You clearly misunderstood me. You clearly don’t want to understand. So it’s over.

You’ve clearly misunderstood Bryan Ekers. He doesn’t want to understand or misunderstand anyone or anything. What he wants is keep up a cool-kid image via clever riposte and quips. Understanding you is not even part of the equation.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/271 "2014-03-20T17:04:11Z")

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Sure he is.

X + (lance strongarm) = X

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/272 "2014-03-20T17:06:40Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> Understanding you is not even part of the equation.

Well, it was at first, then I came to understand that there was nothing to understand. Jimmy Chitwood seems to have nailed it.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/273 "2014-03-20T17:09:50Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Sure he is.
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> X + (lance strongarm) = X

If I may suggest:

_U_ = _x_ + _i_(lance strongarm)

where _U_ = Understanding; _x_ = the rational part and _i_ is the imaginary part. lance’s contribution only modifies _i_.

The equation is complex, but the situation is not.

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/274 "2014-03-20T17:10:47Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> You’ve clearly misunderstood Bryan Ekers. He doesn’t want to understand or misunderstand anyone or anything. What he wants is keep up a cool-kid image via clever riposte and quips. Understanding you is not even part of the equation.

Ah, I think I understand now.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/275 "2014-03-20T17:11:06Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> He barely even registers what you’re saying to him. Do the math; he’s got twice as many posts as anybody else in like eight threads at a time. Ain’t no time for reading or thinking. He’s distilled internet chain-yanking to its purest form.

I’m not sure if it’s chain-yanking or if he thinks this kind of tendentious stupidity is what arguing is actually supposed to look like. In that regard he’s kind of like **magellan01** , except he’s more of a blank slate while **magellan01** is a smug, malignant dipshit.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/276 "2014-03-20T17:17:25Z")

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Well, the steroids help him, I’m sure.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/277 "2014-03-20T17:18:11Z")

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> [@lance\_strongarm](#):
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> I’ll discuss that with him.

That’s not what I said

> [@lance\_strongarm](#):
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> Yeah - some blogger just made it up! LOL!

Its not something I made up

> [@lance\_strongarm](#):
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> Hey, how about you explain what you think he said.

Again, that’s not what I said

😉

I think, lance, in all seriousness, I think you know perfectly well what I’m talking about, but you’ve decided that this the issue you’re going to hang your cross on and pedantically ask for increasingly absurd levels of minutiae about things of decreasing degrees of triviality. Yes, the “retard” comment from before was baiting, but not what you think. The fact that you ignored something like that to engage in banter regarding operational definitions of racism shows something you may not have wanted to show, but it is clear to me now.

I’m going to let you win. You’d probably declare victory anyway, so no skin off my nose. I’m not going to explain any further. My words are clear enough to someone without an agenda, they don’t need more detail. That the GOP is racist is an accepted statement of fact by enough smart people that I don’t need to convince you or anyone else who either is flawed in their thinking or is part of the racist GOP contingent itself. Feel free to block me because I’m not reading any more of your posts in this thread.

Ultimately, I do find it sad that someone who is a parent to a disabled child would throw their lot in with a party of racist xenophobes who would probably tell you and your child to pound sand if you ever asked for help. Consider your beliefs and goals in life and how defending the entire GOP, which as we all know is a racist party, makes those goals easier or harder

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/278 "2014-03-20T17:22:29Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> I think, lance, in all seriousness, I think you know perfectly well what I’m talking about, but you’ve decided that this the issue you’re going to hang your cross on and pedantically ask for increasingly absurd levels of minutiae about things of decreasing degrees of triviality.

That’s what he does on every issue.

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/279 "2014-03-20T17:26:16Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> That’s not what I said

What did you say?

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> Its not something I made up

Then cite it.

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> I think, lance, in all seriousness, I think you know perfectly well what I’m talking about,

Yes, and I think your argument is shit. Your evidence is incredibly poor and so is your logic.

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> but you’ve decided that this the issue you’re going to hang your cross on and pedantically ask for increasingly absurd levels of minutiae about things of decreasing degrees of triviality.

You’re resorting to an ad hominem - I think it’s a circumstancial ad hominem. In any event, my motives are not the least bit relevant to whether your argument is good or not.

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> That the GOP is racist is an accepted statement of fact by enough smart people

And this is an appeal to authority, another lame-ass fallacy.

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> Ultimately, I do find it sad that someone who is a parent to a disabled child would throw their lot in with a party of racist xenophobes who would probably tell you and your child to pound sand if you ever asked for help.

I’m a Democrat. Always have been.

Doesn’t mean I can’t say that your argument for the proposition that Republicans are all racists is stupid. It is.

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> Consider your beliefs and goals in life and how defending the entire GOP, which as we all know is a racist party, makes those goals easier or harder

I’m not defending the GOP, I’m defending reason and logic from stupidity and fallacy. I’m also defending the DEMOCRATIC party from further accusations that some of its members are making stupid, unsupported, unfair accusations about racism, thereby eroding our credibility and making us look like idiots - and also making people stop listening to us when we have REAL complaints about racism.

In short, you’re not helping anything with this horseshit.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/280 "2014-03-20T17:28:46Z")

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> [@lance\_strongarm](#):
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> But branding the entire party as "racist’ is absurd.

There is a difference between branding every Republican as racist and branding the Republican party as racist. I’m like the 4th person to say this but I’m hoping that repitition might have some sort of effect.

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> Michelle Malakin does not deserve to call herself a human being.

She is a pretty horrible person who is capitalizing on being a cute Asian woman to insulate herself from some of the criticism she would otherwise receive for saying the sort of shit she does.

What makes her particularly repugnant is that she doesn’t really believe half the loathesome shit she says. I’ve seen ehr debate and she is well aware of the facts and in a debate, she is fairly well reasoned and rational (although very partisan), then she gets on a talk show or soemthing and spews stuff she KNOWS is false or unsupportable because it gets her better ratings.

It just boggles my mind that this child of immgrants has bifurcated immgrants into two groups, the good kind (which she belongs to) and the bad kind (which is what Mexicans belong to).

> [@lance\_strongarm](#):
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> But that makes it even LESS of a case that can be applied generally, not more.

It is frequently the corner cases that let you suss out what the rules are.

> [@magellan01](#):
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> And…? Just because lefty dopes like you _call_ me a racist and Google sees that, you think that’s “proof” that I’m a racist.

I don’t know about anybody else but the reason I peg you as a racist is that when you are presented with a disparity between racial groups (say the IQ difference ebtween blacks and white), your first instinct is to assume its because one group is inferior to the other instead of other possible reasons for the differences. You are also incredibly tolerant of racism among conservatives as if it is incredibly rare or something.

> [@Shodan](#):
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> The Supreme Court did not overrule the Obama administration’s claim that it was a penalty; it was persuaded by the Obama administration’s claim that it was a tax. The President absolutely guaranteed that it wasn’t a tax, and then went into court and swore that it was. An absolute guarantee seems pretty substantive to me, especially coupled with another absolute guarantee that Obama would never raise my taxes.It was his idea, his law, his guarantee, and his argument. If ever a piece of legislation could be laid at a President’s feet, it’s Obamacare.

> [@magellan01](#):
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> If that was all that happened, I’d agree with you completely. But wasn’t it the case that Obama’s lawyers argued that it was a tax. That’s what I recall, though I may be mistaken. After years of him arguing that it was NOT a tax, he sends hiss lawyers in there and they argue it IS a tax. That seems patently dishonest.

No, there is a difference between saying something is a tax in the commonly understood sense and saying that something falls under the taxing power.

> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Many personal attacks against Obama are racially motivated. But it’d be a break from American politics to have no nonracial personal attacks against him.

Do you honestly think that there would have been anywhere near this level of racist attacks gaist the president if Herman cain won in 2012?

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