# magellan01 - epitome of racist Republican **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 18, 2014, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975 "2014-03-18T02:08:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/381 "2014-03-24T20:24:52Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I refuted this above. I guess the GOP welcomes Hispanics who are unable to read. :rolleyes: > [@septimus](#): > > No one’s interested in your semantic games or jury-bamboozling rhetoric. It would amuse us to know if you’re capable of learning, or of changing your stupid opinions. Do you still idolize Karl Rove? > [@YogSosoth](#): > > You didn’t consider it. You stuck with the premise that the GOP is not racist and used yourself to explain it. Jesus have mercy. You guys 're embarrassing us all with this shit. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/382 "2014-03-24T20:54:01Z")
Indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/383 "2014-03-24T23:35:19Z")
It makes sense to me that a pitting of \*\*magellan01 \*\*would degenerate into a discussion of things other than **magellan01**. \*\*magellan01 \*\*has always struck me as a second-rater–more of a lickspittle than an instigator. Stupid and obnoxious, but not stupid or obnoxious enough to keep people interested in talking about him even in a thread about him. Does anyone remember those old cartoons with the two dogs, and the little dog would eagerly bounce around the big dog trying to get his attention? That’s **magellan01 trying to curry favor with whichever of our right-wingers is actually generating controversy. Sort of a less insanebrazil89** (and that’s not a compliment to either of them). ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/384 "2014-03-25T00:28:59Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Wow, **magellan01** found the thread. Yeah, for like the dozenth time now. So, you’re so dumb you don’t know the difference between 0 and a number greater than 0? Uh, okay… :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/385 "2014-03-25T00:49:30Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > That depends on what you mean by “the GOP” and “hates,” I guess. Not every Republican does, but as a national body, the party doesn’t give a shit about people of color and devotes a consider amount of energy to nasty rhetoric, peddling stereotypes and dismantling programs that help them. **Marley** , I meant to post this a few days ago, but here it is: Putting our mutual disdain aside—for now— this flap you find yourself in illustrates very well a problem that I find myself embroiled in frequently on these boards. It happens on this board and everywhere were a group of like-minded people gather. It causes a speaker from the majority to get lazy. They use shorthand, assuming that “everyone” agrees with the premises and assumptions that undergird each statement. You’ve been called on it here with posters that are certainly not coming to my personal defense. They are merely pointing out your use of broad sweeping statements and the assumptions you make, and insist that everyone must share. Your defense has been weak. That’s expected, as you put yourself in a weak position. In essence, you want to make strong and powerful statements about the Republican party, but when called on your grand sweeping generalities, you back-pedal while registering SHOCK that there could be any problem with your pronouncements. And naturally, any problem MUST be the fault of the stupid reader! But two posters have clearly pointed out your errors—neither of which I think are on the conservative side of the spectrum, as I am. You’re typing as if you’re talking to a small club, where all of you have the same history and believe the same things. Given the liberal make-up of the SDMB, I understand how you might make that mistake. But there are other here, as well. As much as that evidently pains you. So, you are certainly free to continue with your sweeping generalities, but when you get called on it, the problem is one of your own making. As time has gone on, you’ve become worse and worse a poster, and especially, a Mod. And that is simply because that you’ve gotten more and more comfortable with the comraderie and protection of the hive. My advice is to go to some conservative board and argue there. You’ll start to see just how much you rely on assumptions that largely go unchallenged here, and also the assumptions those posters will make for the same reason you make them here. I know of what I speak. I’d say that half of the flaps I get into is simply because I’m challenging the “assumptions that everyone must share”. So, I try to get people to be specific, to define terms. And even that generates ridicule. How dare someone want to define the terms in a debate! Anyway, you’ll take this in the worst possible light, no doubt. So be it. After all, you are a dumb fuck and a douche bag and deserving of it. I chose to leave the colorful language out of it until down here so you’d focus on the words, since you have such a difficult time with reading comprehension as it is. Plus, I think the points made could be considered by posters not as dumb, biased and douchey as you, too. In other words, pretty much everyone else other than, maybe, **ElvisL1ives**. Maybe. But once backpedalling in this thread. Awesome, in fact. I now see that \*\*Evil Economist \*\*has climbed out of the woodwork and wishes to join the competition. Sorry, EE. For now you’ll have to content yourself with 3rd Place. But you do show promise. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/386 "2014-03-25T00:55:26Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > I’d say that half of the flaps I get into is simply because I’m challenging the “assumptions that everyone must share”. No, it’s for a much more basic reason than that. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/387 "2014-03-25T00:56:05Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > I now see that \*\*Evil Economist \*\*has climbed out of the woodwork and wishes to join the competition. Sorry, EE. For now you’ll have to content yourself with 3rd Place. But you do show promise. You try so hard, but being insulted by you is like being attacked by a damp sponge. I want to rub your little pointy head and give you a piece of candy. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/388 "2014-03-25T01:14:42Z")
It is pretty cute how Magellan thinks he’s the intellectual in the room. Mag, buddy, you’re a farting imbecile. _Learn it, live it, love it._ ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/389 "2014-03-25T04:56:04Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I can conceive of no other likely explanation for his belief that irrational attacks against a sitting President can only be the result of racism. What an asshole liar you are. Show me where I said “irrational attacks against a sitting President can only be the result of racism.” Oh, and while you’re at it: Why are you still afraid to comment on your admiration for Karl Rove? ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/390 "2014-03-25T07:56:57Z")
I hope everyone withdraws the charge that the GOP doesn’t welcome Blacks. From another thread we learn [of a key Republican detective who has solved the MA370 mystery and who happens to be Black](http://www.erikrush.com/what-really-happened-to-malaysia-airlines-flight-370/). This brave GOP intellectual, Erik Rush, is affiliated with cutting-edge think tanks like WorldNetDaily and FoxNews. [QUOTE=Erik Rush] … The CIA went into action, in concert with the DOD and Boeing engineers. They commandeered Flight 370 en route, digitally, without the foreknowledge of the pilots or crew, diverting it to Diego Garcia. … Flight 370’s pilots (one of whom being the pro-Islamist Zaharie Ahmad Shah) may have been afforded the opportunity to continue on to another Muslim country, blend in and take on a new identity, given the sentiments of those in the current administration. [/QUOTE] > [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > Jesus have mercy. You guys 're embarrassing us all with this shit. I’m embarrassed to see grown adults argue with the likes of **magellan01**. At least I reserve my venom for the **Brickhead** who would be intelligent enough to know how stupid his ideas are, if he could only open his mind. It’s entertaining to watch him twist and play semantic games in order to avoid admitting to himself how corrupt his Republican mentors and idols are. I’d be more polite to the **Brickhead** if he’d ever apologize for defecating on one of my threads. He claims to have apologized, but all he ever did was acknowledge what was obvious to all: that he bounded into the thread, prattling nothing but ignorance, despite that his ignorant assumptions were _refuted in the OP itself_, which he hadn’t condescended to read. The only “apology” I want from him is a promise to either _ **read the OP of threads** _ where he feels the need to defecate, or to just _ **keep his trap shut** _. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/391 "2014-03-25T12:45:42Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > What an asshole liar you are. Show me where I said “irrational attacks against a sitting President can only be the result of racism.” > > Oh, and while you’re at it: Why are you still afraid to comment on your admiration for Karl Rove? > [@septimus](#): > > What I refer to are otherwise-inexplicable _irrational attacks_, and venom directed against Obama specifically when “government” or “liberals” would be the more rational target. “Otherwise inexplicable” is certainly an interesting caveat. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/392 "2014-03-25T15:35:39Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > “Otherwise inexplicable” is certainly an interesting caveat. Well, sure but its clear that at least some of the opposition to Obama is driven by bigotry. Mostly be people who have hated Oabam if he was white but his skin color is like chocolate icing on the cake. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/393 "2014-03-25T15:41:25Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Well, sure but its clear that at least some of the opposition to Obama is driven by bigotry. Mostly be people who have hated Oabam if he was white but his skin color is like chocolate icing on the cake. As I said before, there’s a really obvious reason for hating the current president, a reason that’s been really true ever since at least 1993 (and before, but as I recall to a lesser degree): partisan idiocy. I mean, I think it’s pretty legit to hate W personally for his dumb self and morally repellent statements about the death penalty etc., but I’m aware that my belief in the legitimacy of hating W could just be another example of partisan idiocy. So no, there’s not really that much “otherwise inexplicable” hatred of Obama. There’s the stuff that’s obviously racist, of course, and then there’s the stuff that can be explained otherwise but that still might be due to racism, but racism isn’t the null hypothesis: partisan idiocy is. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/394 "2014-03-25T16:41:53Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Well, sure but its clear that at least some of the opposition to Obama is driven by bigotry. Mostly be people who have hated Oabam if he was white but his skin color is like chocolate icing on the cake. I’d be foolish to claim it’s “zero,” of course. But people hated Clinton – pretty much the same people that now hate Obama. I don’t really see a large delta between those two populations. So I can’t agree that racism is such a tremendous determinative factor. If Mrs. Clinton had won, I suspect people would be decrying sexism instead of acknowledging that the majority of this crazed hatred derives from partisan difference, period. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/395 "2014-03-25T16:47:32Z")
Also, what counts as “crazed hatred” is highly subjective. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/396 "2014-03-25T17:16:16Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > Also, what counts as “crazed hatred” is highly subjective. Yes… except that describing a tragic suicide as a murder and then claiming the president and first lady of the United States planned the murder as a coverup of their other illegal activities, without a shred of actual supporting evidence… I have to imagine that’s “crazed hatred” in almost anyone’s book. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/397 "2014-03-25T17:30:44Z")
From [Salon](http://www.salon.com/2014/03/25/conservatives_have_a_racist_jokes_culture_problem/): “Conservatives have a “racist jokes” culture problem.” (The news-hook is the Latino billionaire Mike Fernandez’ recent resignation from the re-election campaign of Florida Governor Rick Scott, over resentment at staffers’ racist jokes; plus internal racist emails in Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker’s office.) > [@](#): > > There has been some debate recently on the subject of urban “culture” and its relation to poverty and white supremacy. Conservatives argue, essentially, that the structural forces (white supremacy) holding back “urban” economic advancement have largely receded, and so, where there is still poverty, the problem is “cultural.” > > With that in mind, I’d like to posit that one reason conservative minority outreach fails so often and so consistently is because of a tailspin of culture, among Republicans, of generations of men being giant racist pricks. Not just racially “insensitive,” like an old man who doesn’t know it’s not OK to say “Oriental” anymore, but actively, intentionally, overtly, aggressively racist pricks. Like “attend a blackface-themed frat party on MLK Day” racist. Most of us don’t think forwarding a racist joke or speaking in an insulting “comedic” accent, is appropriate at the workplace. Unfortunately, for those raised in the toxic culture of conservatism, the sort of mentality that leads government employees to do those things is widespread. > > There will be no successful minority “outreach” for the GOP — not even among the “high-achieving” groups — until this culture is addressed. They’ll have to do this work for themselves. Charitable groups have tried for years to educate and help conservatives, but they keep falling back into the same tragic patterns: asking “why isn’t there a WHITE history month,” demanding access to institutions of higher learning based not on merit but on skin color, infringing on free expression merely because it makes them uncomfortable. The list goes on and on. It’s time for the right to stop feeling entitled to lessons in basic human decency, and start addressing their own pathological culture. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/398 "2014-03-25T17:32:41Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I’d be foolish to claim it’s “zero,” of course. > > But people hated Clinton – pretty much the same people that now hate Obama. I don’t really see a large delta between those two populations. So I can’t agree that racism is such a tremendous determinative factor. > > If Mrs. Clinton had won, I suspect people would be decrying sexism instead of acknowledging that the majority of this crazed hatred derives from partisan difference, period. Don’t you think there would be some even more hostile to Hillary than they were to Bill, on account of her sex alone? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/399 "2014-03-25T17:46:41Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Yes… except that describing a tragic suicide as a murder and then claiming the president and first lady of the United States planned the murder as a coverup of their other illegal activities, without a shred of actual supporting evidence… I have to imagine that’s “crazed hatred” in almost anyone’s book. I always assumed it was “a very cunning plan.” ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975/400 "2014-03-25T18:08:07Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > But people hated Clinton – pretty much the same people that now hate Obama. I don’t really see a large delta between those two populations. So I can’t agree that racism is such a tremendous determinative factor. I agree. At the same time, though, I think there are people witha lot of ugly parts of their personality that are stupidly partisan, and they let different parts of their ugly personalities show according to the target of their rage. To flip the tables, these people will call George W an idiot, then they’ll talk about how Sarah Palin is a bimbo but they’d still do her, and they’ll turn around and call Clarence Thomas an Uncle Tom. Their misogyny and racism won’t manifest when talking about W, but they sure will when talking about Palin and Thomas. The same thing, I am convinced, happens versus Democrats. The worst partisans tend to be not very good people and have a lot of entrenched prejudices. Those prejudices might not come out against Slick Willie (except in fairly trivial ways like the mocking of his accent), but against a nonwhite or female Democrat, those ugly bits will rise to the surface. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magellan01-epitome-of-racist-republican/683975.md?page=21)