# MagGyver vs. The A-Team in a warehouse full of tools 'n stuff

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maggyver-vs-the-a-team-in-a-warehouse-full-of-tools-n-stuff/271203
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [October 26, 2004, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maggyver-vs-the-a-team-in-a-warehouse-full-of-tools-n-stuff/271203 "2004-10-26T05:24:16Z")
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### Author: ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2004, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maggyver-vs-the-a-team-in-a-warehouse-full-of-tools-n-stuff/271203/1 "2004-10-26T05:24:16Z")

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Who wins?

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### Author: ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2004, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maggyver-vs-the-a-team-in-a-warehouse-full-of-tools-n-stuff/271203/2 "2004-10-26T05:42:25Z")

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Gizmoduck.

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### Author: ![Electronic\_Chaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Electronic\_Chaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electronic_Chaos)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2004, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maggyver-vs-the-a-team-in-a-warehouse-full-of-tools-n-stuff/271203/3 "2004-10-26T06:19:38Z")

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Never really watched the A-Team, but if the “'n stuff” includes guns, then the A-Team wins (for those that haven’t seen MacGuyver enough, he won’t use guns because of an accident that happend to him in his younger days). Otherwise, I’m going to say ole Angus MacG wins because…well…um…Richard Dean Anderson aged alot better than Mr. T…yeah.

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### Author: ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2004, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maggyver-vs-the-a-team-in-a-warehouse-full-of-tools-n-stuff/271203/4 "2004-10-26T06:23:07Z")

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Somebody’s been reading [WWWF Grudge Match](http://www.grudge-match.com/History/ateam-macgyver.shtml).

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### Author: ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2004, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maggyver-vs-the-a-team-in-a-warehouse-full-of-tools-n-stuff/271203/5 "2004-10-26T06:31:44Z")

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> [@xgxlx](#):
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> Never really watched the A-Team, but if the “'n stuff” includes guns, then the A-Team wins…

Not necessarily. I think that between the A-Team and the bad guys, somewhere between five thousand and ten thousand rounds were fired per show, and I can’t think of anyone, good or bad, who ever got killed. :dubious:

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### Author: ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2004, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maggyver-vs-the-a-team-in-a-warehouse-full-of-tools-n-stuff/271203/6 "2004-10-26T06:32:59Z")

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> [@xgxlx](#):
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> Never really watched the A-Team, but if the “'n stuff” includes guns, then the A-Team wins (for those that haven’t seen MacGuyver enough, he won’t use guns because of an accident that happend to him in his younger days).

Well, the A-Team can _shoot_ guns but they can’t hit anything (well, except jeep engines and helicopter rotors and other machinery weak spots) so that’s not much in the advantage department.

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### Author: ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2004, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maggyver-vs-the-a-team-in-a-warehouse-full-of-tools-n-stuff/271203/7 "2004-10-26T07:09:59Z")

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Puttin MacGuyver in a warehouse full o’ tools ‘n’ stuff is like ripping Kirk’s shirt. Tough enough to beat him ordinarily, but under those circumstances? Whoa, baby.

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### Author: ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2004, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maggyver-vs-the-a-team-in-a-warehouse-full-of-tools-n-stuff/271203/8 "2004-10-26T07:20:13Z")

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MacGyver gets stuck in the A-Team’s trap while, simultaneously, the A-Team gets stuck in MacGyver’s trap, leaving the ancillary characters from both shows – MacGyver’s portly friend from the Phoenix Foundation versus either of the cute reporters who tagged along with the A-Team – to duke it out for supremacy.

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### Author: ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2004, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maggyver-vs-the-a-team-in-a-warehouse-full-of-tools-n-stuff/271203/9 "2004-10-26T07:51:48Z")

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Of course, things get complicated when Templeton calls for help from the Battlestar Galactica crew and MacGuyver gets reinforcements from SG-1.

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### Author: ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2004, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maggyver-vs-the-a-team-in-a-warehouse-full-of-tools-n-stuff/271203/10 "2004-10-26T08:29:55Z")

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How on Earth can you expect a rational person to vote against the force of nature that is Mr. T.

I mean, the guy pitys foos. How cool is that? He has that badass gold jewelry and mohawk. What does MacGyver have? Duct Tape and a swiss army knife.

It’s no contest.

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### Author: ![rjk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed655f/32.png) [@rjk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjk)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2004, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maggyver-vs-the-a-team-in-a-warehouse-full-of-tools-n-stuff/271203/11 "2004-10-26T08:51:19Z")

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> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> How on Earth can you expect a rational person to vote against the force of nature that is Mr. T.
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> I mean, the guy pitys foos. How cool is that? He has that badass gold jewelry and mohawk. What does MacGyver have? Duct Tape and a swiss army knife.
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> It’s no contest.

Mr. T can rattle his own chains and work his schtick pretty reliably, but all he can actually build is armoured cars (and trucks, and I think there was a boat once, and probably toboggans for that matter). He can’t do much else. On the other hand, MacGyver can build anything ouy of nothing. In an episode I saw the other day, he took two silver candlesticks and a microphone cord to make a defibrillator and save his buddy’s life. How cool is _that_?

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### Author: ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2004, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maggyver-vs-the-a-team-in-a-warehouse-full-of-tools-n-stuff/271203/12 "2004-10-26T08:59:31Z")

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> [@rjk](#):
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> In an episode I saw the other day, he took two silver candlesticks and a microphone cord to make a defibrillator and save his buddy’s life. How cool is _that_?

Another time he used a blood pressure monitor and an ordinary household alarm clock to make a lie detector that had a success rate way above any lie detector in existence today. How cool is _that_?

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### Author: ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2004, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maggyver-vs-the-a-team-in-a-warehouse-full-of-tools-n-stuff/271203/13 "2004-10-26T09:22:15Z")

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“Don’t thank me; thank the moon’s gravitational pull.”

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### Author: ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2004, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maggyver-vs-the-a-team-in-a-warehouse-full-of-tools-n-stuff/271203/14 "2004-10-26T11:45:05Z")

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> [@Snooooopy](#):
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> MacGyver gets stuck in the A-Team’s trap while, simultaneously, the A-Team gets stuck in MacGyver’s trap, leaving the ancillary characters from both shows – MacGyver’s portly friend from the Phoenix Foundation versus either of the cute reporters who tagged along with the A-Team – to duke it out for supremacy.

In which case, victory goes to the lovely and leggy [Ms. Amy Allen](http://www.geocities.com/johnnyt84047/amy-visit-2.html).

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### Author: ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2004, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maggyver-vs-the-a-team-in-a-warehouse-full-of-tools-n-stuff/271203/15 "2004-10-26T12:39:44Z")

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The 3rd force wins!

Gadget, from _Chip & Dale’s Rescue Rangers._😃

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### Author: ![Chairman\_Pow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Chairman\_Pow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chairman_Pow)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2004, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maggyver-vs-the-a-team-in-a-warehouse-full-of-tools-n-stuff/271203/16 "2004-10-26T18:22:18Z")

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> [@Bryan Ekers](#):
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> Well, the A-Team can _shoot_ guns but they can’t hit anything (well, except jeep engines and helicopter rotors and other machinery weak spots) so that’s not much in the advantage department.

Sure it is, they can shoot the wires holding the balloon that will eventually pop and scare the mouse who then runs…

Oh, wait.

I think that Murdoch is the X-factor that no one’s considering. He is what usually wins it for the A-Team.

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### Author: ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2004, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maggyver-vs-the-a-team-in-a-warehouse-full-of-tools-n-stuff/271203/17 "2004-10-26T18:45:55Z")

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> [@rjk](#):
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> Mr. T can rattle his own chains and work his schtick pretty reliably, but all he can actually build is armoured cars (and trucks, and I think there was a boat once, and probably toboggans for that matter). He can’t do much else. On the other hand, MacGyver can build anything ouy of nothing. In an episode I saw the other day, he took two silver candlesticks and a microphone cord to make a defibrillator and save his buddy’s life. How cool is _that_?

All someone has to do is put some sleepy medication in a cup of milk to take out B.A. Barracus. That’s pretty sad.

McGuyver usually excels in situations where there is little time to plan, and resources are non-existent. The A-Team always seems to have both time and equipment to work with. I think McGuyver could build a battleship in Nebraska with access to proper equipment - the A-Team wouldn’t be able to hit it with David Koresh’s arsenal and unlimited ammo.

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### Author: ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2004, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maggyver-vs-the-a-team-in-a-warehouse-full-of-tools-n-stuff/271203/18 "2004-10-26T19:43:42Z")

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As much as I used to like the A-Team, I’m going to have to go with McGyver. Shit, the man once stopped a nuclear meltdown with a chocolate bar. A chocolate bar!

Plus, Patty and Selma like him.

So, McGyver on points, but nobody gets hurt.

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### Author: ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2004, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maggyver-vs-the-a-team-in-a-warehouse-full-of-tools-n-stuff/271203/19 "2004-10-26T19:58:15Z")

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Yea, McGyver wins, but it’s not really a fair fight. See, as stated previously, Mr. T pities foo’s. And McGyver most certainly is not going to act the foo around Mr. T.

Now, if you could work in some bizaare plot twist where McGyver is forced to act the foo (say, his sainted aunt is held by terrorists who are trying to eliminate the A-Team), then Mr. T and the A-Team will win. After which McGyver and the A-Team will join forces to defeat the terrorists!

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### Author: ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2004, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maggyver-vs-the-a-team-in-a-warehouse-full-of-tools-n-stuff/271203/20 "2004-10-26T20:09:53Z")

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> [@Bryan Ekers](#):
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> Of course, things get complicated when Templeton calls for help from the Battlestar Galactica crew and MacGuyver gets reinforcements from SG-1.

I think the real question is does MacGuyver get help from just the SGC, or do the rebel jaffa, Tokra, and maybe the Asgard pitch in to help?

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