# Magic of the Future ??? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [February 2, 2006, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magic-of-the-future/342648 "2006-02-02T07:10:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magic-of-the-future/342648/1 "2006-02-02T07:10:55Z")
I’ve been checking out this (free) ebook [http://www.hscti.com/magicofthefuture.pdf](http://www.hscti.com/magicofthefuture.pdf) What do people think about it? Is it scientific? It seems to work… ---
**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magic-of-the-future/342648/2 "2006-02-02T07:36:09Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > I’ve been checking out this (free) ebook > [http://www.hscti.com/magicofthefuture.pdf](http://www.hscti.com/magicofthefuture.pdf) > What do people think about it? Is it scientific? It seems to work… A) If it’s “magic of the future,” why is it here now? B) “Seems” to work is the key. From a cursory skim, I didn’t see one single objective test. It was all about “feeling” the “life force” or whatever. And it tingles, feels warm or feels cold. About covers all the bases doesn’t it? C) The design of that book hurts my eyes. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magic-of-the-future/342648/3 "2006-02-02T08:03:19Z")
Here are technological applications of it: [http://www.hscti.com/c\_supermanifestation.html](http://www.hscti.com/c_supermanifestation.html) [http://www.hscti.com/316\_mindcontrol.html](http://www.hscti.com/316_mindcontrol.html) [http://www.hscti.com/317\_attackdefense.html](http://www.hscti.com/317_attackdefense.html) [http://www.hscti.com/303\_plantsgrowth.html](http://www.hscti.com/303_plantsgrowth.html) Also From the back cover of IEEE internet computing, volume 1, number 2, march-april 1997 [http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/717/lucent29uv.jpg](http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/717/lucent29uv.jpg) (front cover) [http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/6870/netcomputing38ut.jpg](http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/6870/netcomputing38ut.jpg) (I stole that magazine from a mental hospital - oops… stealing is bad for karma) But anyway, the devices aren’t mainstream… but I thought there would be a big market for the things on the back of that magazine… ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magic-of-the-future/342648/4 "2006-02-02T08:10:28Z")
I’m not saying I believe in everything in that ebook… but here are people who do… and some are building devices for themselves… [http://www.xtrememind.com/phpbb/index.php](http://www.xtrememind.com/phpbb/index.php) ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magic-of-the-future/342648/5 "2006-02-02T15:56:19Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > I’m not saying I believe in everything in that ebook I don’t believe _anything_ in that book. After I got through the first few painful pages I started wondering, OK this is a con to make money off of people but how? The last two pages of the book is an order form for his bogus equipment and courses, etc. I wonder if anybody actually buys any of it? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magic-of-the-future/342648/6 "2006-02-02T16:00:00Z")
This topic is crossposted in GD: > **[Is "Magic of the Future" unscientific?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=356899)** > > This is a free ebook called magic of the future… http://www.hscti.com/magicofthefuture.pdf is it a hoax? BTW if you get tense or sweaty when thinking about it, I do too. ---
**Author:** ![istara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e79b87/32.png) [@istara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/istara)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magic-of-the-future/342648/7 "2006-02-02T19:15:40Z")
> [@CookingWithGas](#): > > I don’t believe _anything_ in that book. After I got through the first few painful pages I started wondering, OK this is a con to make money off of people but how? The last two pages of the book is an order form for his bogus equipment and courses, etc. I wonder if anybody actually buys any of it? Ditto. It was absolutely excruciating. ---
**Author:** ![Nanoda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Nanoda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanoda)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magic-of-the-future/342648/8 "2006-02-02T20:14:18Z")
I’d like to read that ‘book’ (but I’m at work and don’t have the time). I wasn’t able to get a clear sense of what it was about by flipping through it. I _would_ like to know what you think Lucent and that IEEE magazine have to do with it though. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magic-of-the-future/342648/9 "2006-02-02T21:22:47Z")
> [@Nanoda](#): > > I _would_ like to know what you think Lucent and that IEEE magazine have to do with it though. 😕 I am really trying hard to be a good SDMB citizen and refrain from snarky comments about where he obtained the magazine, and have they realized he’s missing. The magazine. I meant have they realized the magazine’s missing. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magic-of-the-future/342648/10 "2006-02-02T21:42:33Z")
Orgone energy was thoroughly demolished by Martin Gardner in his book _Fads & Fallacies in the Name of Science_. In 1952. ---
**Author:** ![Tevildo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Tevildo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tevildo)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magic-of-the-future/342648/11 "2006-02-02T23:30:00Z")
> [@Nanoda](#): > > I’d like to read that ‘book’ (but I’m at work and don’t have the time). I wasn’t able to get a clear sense of what it was about by flipping through it. “Just buy one of my super Heavy Duty Orgone Generators ™ for only $2199.99 plus postage and packaging and you’ll be able to summon up ultra-cute female demons (HOE’s - no, seriously) to do your bidding”. 🙂 There is one born every minute. I’m sure that few of them post here, fortunately. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2006, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magic-of-the-future/342648/12 "2006-02-03T00:49:02Z")
> [@Exapno Mapcase](#): > > Orgone energy was thoroughly demolished by Martin Gardner in his book _Fads & Fallacies in the Name of Science_. In 1952. Oh, plenty of people have proven Orgone to be bunk since then. Orgone does not exist. **John Clay** My computer is taking longer than usual to download the PDF. But, I have read the page on supermanifestation. The book is bunk. The only reason I need to read it is to see if the author is deluded (Reich, for example, genuinely believed in Orgone) or is a knowing conman attempting defraud people. Certainly, there are people who believe in it and products based on it. The same is true of Reich’s extensively disproven work. ‘Many people do it’ does not equal ‘It is a valid concept and proven to exist.’ In the Ripley’s Believe It Or Not! museum in Atlantic city, a magnetic therapy belt and a “purple ray” are exhibited as examples of the medical quackery of the late 1800s. Useless magnetic devices flooded the market again in the 1990s. I saw at least one catalog selling a ‘healing wand’ using red LEDs and making claims almost identical to those in the purple ray exhibit. Scientific claims are proven or disproven through repeatable experiments. Einstein had some strange ideas about physics. Numerous experiments have shown that most of those ideas were true. Schroedinger had some stranger ideas about physics. But numerous experiments have shown that Schroedinger was right. Reich had some strange ideas about biology, physics, and psychology. Numerous experiments have shown that he was wrong. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2006, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magic-of-the-future/342648/13 "2006-02-03T00:50:45Z")
Since there’s a GD thread about this, let’s close this one. **samclem**