# Magiver and America (from another thread, not really worth a full thread)

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**Created:** [March 20, 2009, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magiver-and-america-from-another-thread-not-really-worth-a-full-thread/490107 "2009-03-20T01:45:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magiver-and-america-from-another-thread-not-really-worth-a-full-thread/490107/1 "2009-03-20T01:45:43Z")

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Note this from [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10951287#post10951287). Starting a new thread in a place we can be frank, and won’t raise Tom’s blood pressure so much.

> [@Sen. Grassley to AIG Execs: Resign or Kill Yourselves](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sen-grassley-to-aig-execs-resign-or-kill-yourselves/489746/65):
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> What is a “dress of grievances”? Is is like a wedding dress but to be worn on the day of one’s divorce?  
> Now, this is really stupid and childish. It is his country as much as anybody else’s and he has the right to be critical and to try to change it for what he thinks is the better.

Petty and childish like nit picking a typo?

If you read what I quoted. You’d notice **Magiver** expressed that same sentiment for **Der Trihs** ’s expressed beliefs about America.

Essentially telling him to shut up or GTFO; ignoring rights of public dissonance expressed in the First Amendment of the American Constitution. Which are necessary to a healthy country.  
I was merrily pointing out how his own logic applied to him. I mean if he was really for America wouldn’t he be for upholding the liberties countless Americans have shed sweat, blood and life to establish, protect, and expand? Since he’s apparently not, then by his own logic why does he stay here?

I’m perfectly fine with him living here, myself. It’s a big country. He can hate on that all he wants, I reserve the right to point out the self defeating flaw in that logic though.