# Magiver, are you okay?

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magiver-are-you-okay/839777
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [September 6, 2019, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magiver-are-you-okay/839777 "2019-09-06T08:29:44Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2019, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magiver-are-you-okay/839777/21 "2019-09-06T16:14:18Z")

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> [@Isosleepy](#):
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> So: Magiver believes that Trump projecting the path of the hurricane as known at that time a little further is not that big a deal.  
> People then disagree.  
> At which point you apparently expect him to issue an apology, and a retraction of some sort, the absence of which leads you to to be concerned about medication, harm to self or others, and flirting with a dementia diagnosis. That is both repugnant and insane.

> [@AHunter3](#):
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> Not cool. And offensive as all fuck.

+1 to both of these. BPC thinks his passion and conviction make any tactic acceptable. I used to run into people like that back in college. Back then I took it as a sign of immaturity and lack of life experience. I still do.

eta: This has nothing to do with what I think of the posts or poster in question. I would have been fine with a straightforward challenge, but this fake concern, in a pit thread no less, is demeaning to the OP.

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### Author: ![SingleMalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/singlemalt/32/3961_2.png) [@SingleMalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleMalt)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2019, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magiver-are-you-okay/839777/22 "2019-09-06T16:33:10Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Projection is a powerful thing sometimes.
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan

Frankly, I read this as little more than a play on words, in response to the immediately preceding post, and inferred nothing more.

And thus, I found it amusing.

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### Author: ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magiver-are-you-okay/839777/23 "2019-09-06T16:58:01Z")

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> [@SingleMalt](#):
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> Frankly, I read this as little more than a play on words, in response to the immediately preceding post, and inferred nothing more.
> 
> And thus, I found it amusing.

That really is the most interesting way to read it. Otherwise you’d have to conclude there is more than one disingenuous jackass in this thread. And what are the chances of that?

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### Author: ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2019, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magiver-are-you-okay/839777/24 "2019-09-06T18:04:20Z")

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I’m just surprised that Magiver didn’t suggest we drop paratroopers into Alabama to double monkey punch the hurricane into submission.

CMC fnord!

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### Author: ![SingleMalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/singlemalt/32/3961_2.png) [@SingleMalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleMalt)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magiver-are-you-okay/839777/25 "2019-09-06T19:08:28Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> That really is the most interesting way to read it. Otherwise you’d have to conclude there is more than one disingenuous jackass in this thread. And what are the chances of that?

In these stochastic Days of Trump, I will take amusing where I can find it. Disingenuous jackasses are thick on the ground these days. They even have their own cable “news” channel.

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### Author: ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magiver-are-you-okay/839777/26 "2019-09-06T19:30:06Z")

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Did anyone explain to The Devine Mister M that it’s illegal to alter a weather map?

> **[18 U.S. Code § 2074 - False weather reports](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2074)**

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### Author: ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magiver-are-you-okay/839777/27 "2019-09-06T19:32:52Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Did anyone explain to The Devine Mister M that it’s illegal to alter a weather map?
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> [18 U.S. Code § 2074 - False weather reports | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2074)

If the President does it…

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### Author: ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magiver-are-you-okay/839777/28 "2019-09-06T19:37:25Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> I’m just surprised that Magiver didn’t suggest we drop paratroopers into Alabama to double monkey punch the hurricane into submission.

From that linked thread (which went on for hundreds of posts, most of them Magiver vs Everyone Else) :

> [@Could you knock out an enraged chimp?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-knock-out-an-enraged-chimp/545830/99):
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> \*\*Magiver \*\*- I think it’s been explained to you several times why you are incorrect. At this point I’m content to let you wallow in ignorance.
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> Good luck fighting that enranged chimp.

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### Author: ![tricoteuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tricoteuse/32/4334_2.png) [@tricoteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tricoteuse)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2019, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magiver-are-you-okay/839777/29 "2019-09-06T19:38:25Z")

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Trump was probably just pitching a hissy because the hurricane is named Dorian instead of Donald.

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### Author: ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2019, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magiver-are-you-okay/839777/30 "2019-09-06T19:42:41Z")

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Alabama governor: [**[SIZE=“6”]We will rebuild! [/SIZE]**](https://memeshappen.com/media/created/2019/09/HURRICANE-DORIAN--ALABAMA-WILL-REBUILD-.jpg)

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### Author: ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magiver-are-you-okay/839777/31 "2019-09-06T19:47:02Z")

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> [@AHunter3](#):
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> Not cool. And offensive as all fuck …

> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> … I would have been fine with a straightforward challenge, but this fake concern, in a pit thread no less, is demeaning to the OP.

Wait, so both of you think that offending or demeaning someone _ **in the Pit** _ is bad form? Even when they so clearly deserve it?

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### Author: ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magiver-are-you-okay/839777/32 "2019-09-06T19:47:58Z")

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[The Picture Of Dorian, Gray](https://blog.ucsusa.org/brenda-ekwurzel/intense-5-remarkable-facts-about-hurricane-dorian).

😃

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### Author: ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magiver-are-you-okay/839777/33 "2019-09-06T19:54:14Z")

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**wolfpup** : Offend or demean someone all you want. And also feel free to differ in opinion, including holding the opinion that someone else’s opinion came out of their ass.

Do not, however, attempt to discredit someone else’s perspective by pretending to care that they’re exhibiting signs of brain malfunction. If you do it jokingly, and it’s obvious that you do it jokingly, I’m not offended personally, but if I were moderator (and moderating according to my above-described moratorium) I’d consider it a slope too slippery to monitor. I’d totally zero-tolerance policy your ass.

If you do it intending to be taken seriously, you’re way the fuck out of line.

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### Author: ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2019, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magiver-are-you-okay/839777/34 "2019-09-06T20:08:43Z")

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> [@AHunter3](#):
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> **wolfpup** : Offend or demean someone all you want. And also feel free to differ in opinion, including holding the opinion that someone else’s opinion came out of their ass.
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> Do not, however, attempt to discredit someone else’s perspective by pretending to care that they’re exhibiting signs of brain malfunction. If you do it jokingly, and it’s obvious that you do it jokingly, I’m not offended personally, but if I were moderator (and moderating according to my above-described moratorium) I’d consider it a slope too slippery to monitor. I’d totally zero-tolerance policy your ass.
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> If you do it intending to be taken seriously, you’re way the fuck out of line.

You want a moderator to jump into a Pit thread if someone says “You must be crazy!” to another poster? Or “There’s clearly something wrong with your head if you think that”?

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### Author: ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2019, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magiver-are-you-okay/839777/35 "2019-09-06T20:17:32Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> That’s… a pretty bad post. But okay, sometimes we fuck up in defense of our political causes. Hell, I did earlier this week when I thought that Trump made a video that he merely distributed. I corrected my error and apologized. It happens.

For reference, here’s BPC’s apology:

> [@Trump 2020 Campaign Logo stolen from white nationalist, fascist militia group](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-2020-campaign-logo-stolen-from-white-nationalist-fascist-militia-group/839621/5):
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> Ah. In the circles I run in, this is considered extremely bad form and something akin to art theft, so you’ll have to excuse me missing this.

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### Author: ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2019, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magiver-are-you-okay/839777/36 "2019-09-06T20:19:00Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> [The Picture Of Dorian, Gray](https://blog.ucsusa.org/brenda-ekwurzel/intense-5-remarkable-facts-about-hurricane-dorian).
> 
> 😃

Wait…are you using a clever pun (so clever it stands on its own) as ALSO a metaphor to say “Dude. Looking in the mirror may say you’re ok…but somewhere upstairs is something going horribly wrong”?

Ok maybe not but still…even accidntally thats well done.

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### Author: ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2019, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magiver-are-you-okay/839777/37 "2019-09-06T20:20:41Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> Wait…are you using a clever pun (so clever it stands on its own) as ALSO a metaphor to say “Dude. Looking in the mirror may say you’re ok…but somewhere upstairs is something going horribly wrong”?
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> Ok maybe not but still…even accidntally thats well done.

Ummmm…sure-that is _exactly_ what I meant!

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### Author: ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magiver-are-you-okay/839777/38 "2019-09-06T20:34:38Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> You want a moderator to jump into a Pit thread if someone says “You must be crazy!” to another poster? Or “There’s clearly something wrong with your head if you think that”?

I’d let those go as colloquialisms.

Asking “did you forget to take your meds?” or “Hey everybody I think we need to worry about **Poster X** , I think she’s decompensating” or “please make an appointment with your therapist” — anything invoking medical conditions of a psychiatric or neurological variety — are not colloquialisms.

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### Author: ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2019, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magiver-are-you-okay/839777/39 "2019-09-06T20:38:07Z")

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> [@AHunter3](#):
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> I’d let those go as colloquialisms.
> 
> Asking “did you forget to take your meds?” or “Hey everybody I think we need to worry about **Poster X** , I think she’s decompensating” or “please make an appointment with your therapist” — anything invoking medical conditions of a psychiatric or neurological variety — are not colloquialisms.

Well, I hope that doesn’t happen (in the Pit anyway). But thanks for answering.

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### Author: ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2019, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magiver-are-you-okay/839777/40 "2019-09-06T20:39:47Z")

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You know what? You’re right, this is unfair to the mentally ill and probably below the belt. **Magiver** isn’t crazy. He’s just an asshole. I’m sorry I went there when far more fitting insults almost certainly existed that wouldn’t throw people with dementia under the bus.

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