# Maine ticks making moose anemic šŸ˜± **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 9, 2021, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maine-ticks-making-moose-anemic/952208 "2021-10-09T13:45:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2021, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maine-ticks-making-moose-anemic/952208/1 "2021-10-09T13:45:03Z")
I saw a piece on the news yesterday about how the tick problem in Maine (exacerbated by global warming) is getting so bad, the moose in Maine are actually getting anemic from losing on average an ā€˜astonishingā€™ 5 GALLONS of blood every two weeks. I thought, I must have heard that wrong, right? Right? So I googled and found this NY Times article saying that researchers are finding 47,000 ticks ON AVERAGE on every moose they examined. Upper limit was 100, 000 on a young moose they found already dead of blood loss (shuddering in horror). Ticks, ugh. I hate those little f\*ckrs. Thereā€™s been talk of exterminating mosquitoes permanently. Can we please do the same with ticks? Are they that critical to the environmental food chain? Screw it, wipe ā€˜em out anyway. Yeah, I know, the real root of the problem is global warming, but like _ **thatā€™s** _ going to ever get fixed šŸ™„ > **[47,000 Ticks on a Moose, and Thatā€™s Just Average. Blame Climate Change....](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/18/climate/moose-ticks.html)** > > Climate change is giving ticks a leg up on their hosts. ā€œItā€™s about as grody a picture as you can imagine on a dead animal,ā€ a researcher said. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2021, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maine-ticks-making-moose-anemic/952208/2 "2021-10-09T14:41:56Z")
That articles three years old, but itā€™s clearly still a problem. Maine is upping hunting permits in the attempt to thin the ticksā€™ food supply, but I donā€™t know, that seems slow. What they need is a guinea fowl breeding program! [Maine to increase moose hunting to cut down winter ticks (bangordailynews.com)](https://bangordailynews.com/2021/03/24/outdoors/maine-to-increase-moose-hunting-to-cut-down-winter-ticks/) ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2021, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maine-ticks-making-moose-anemic/952208/3 "2021-10-09T14:52:23Z")
That article may be old, but the news segment I saw yesterday on the Today Show where they said moose are losing on average 5 gallons of blood every 2 weeks was from yesterday. How much freakinā€™ blood does a moose even have in it anyway? ETA: 32 liters, so around 8 1/2 gallons. Thank you google. So moose are losing more than 1/2 their entire blood volume every 2 weeks? Is that possible? I imagine being herbivores it must be difficult to replenish the iron. ---
**Author:** ![Fir\_na\_tine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Fir\_na\_tine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fir_na_tine)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2021, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maine-ticks-making-moose-anemic/952208/4 "2021-10-09T15:31:52Z")
When I was a volunteer FF, we went to numerous car/moose collisions. Being so tall, the body of the moose usually comes through the windshield. When we would extricate the driver, he or she and the entire front seat would usually be crawling with ticks. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2021, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maine-ticks-making-moose-anemic/952208/5 "2021-10-09T16:44:46Z")
We need to build some sort of pussum-moose alliance. > **[Just One of These Tick Killers Can Devour Up to 5,000 in a Season](https://www.wideopenspaces.com/did-you-know-that-opossums-eat-virtually-all-the-ticks-in-your-yard/)** > > You may think of the opossum as an annoying pest. But there is one thing that it does that may have you second-guessing their usefulness. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2021, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maine-ticks-making-moose-anemic/952208/6 "2021-10-09T16:53:02Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Ticks, ugh. I hate those little f\*ckrs. Thereā€™s been talk of exterminating mosquitoes permanently. Can we please do the same with ticks? Are they that critical to the environmental food chain? Screw it, wipe ā€˜em out anyway. I live in New England, and Iā€™m half-heartedly looking for a new house. One thing not on my must have list? A big yard. Between the mosquitos and the ticks, I feel very little inclination to spend much time outside. Iā€™ve already gotten Lyme disease, I donā€™t want eastern equine encephalitis (EEE) or west nile or anaplasmosis or babesiosis or powassan too. Add me to the list of people whoā€™d throw a party if ticks were eliminated. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2021, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maine-ticks-making-moose-anemic/952208/7 "2021-10-09T17:04:35Z")
I live in a small old-school town now and we have no deer normally. The tick population is tremendously lower from my old place which was only 6.5 miles away. I went from 2 acres with loads of deer to under a quarter acre. All the lots here are on the small side, many only 4000-5000 sqā€™. We also have a huge number of crows and seagulls in town. I wonder if they help at all in controlling the ticks. Theyā€™re very opportunist eaters and weā€™re hoping they discover and wipe out the invasive lantern flies. * * * **Maserschmidt** is right, Maine really should consider a guinea fowl release to help fight the tick population. These turkey relatives are really good at controlling tick populations and seem to do well and without harm where theyā€™ve gone feral in Central Jersey. Apparently theyā€™re good eating if you like game fowl. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maine-ticks-making-moose-anemic/952208/8 "2021-10-09T20:17:26Z")
> [@Fir\_na\_tine](#): > > When I was a volunteer FF, we went to numerous car/moose collisions. Being so tall, the body of the moose usually comes through the windshield. When we would extricate the driver, he or she and the entire front seat would usually be crawling with ticks. This is literal nightmare fuel. If you donā€™t mind me asking, was that out East or somewhere else? ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maine-ticks-making-moose-anemic/952208/9 "2021-10-10T01:45:51Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > We need to build some sort of pussum-moose alliance. There is more precedence for a squirrel-moose alliance. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maine-ticks-making-moose-anemic/952208/10 "2021-10-10T03:24:54Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > We need to build some sort of pussum-moose alliance. Iā€™ve spotted possums in my backyard, and I silently give them a hell yeah. Importing oxpeckers may be even better for the moose: > **[Hungry? Hippo! Birds enjoy an easy meal on the back of a hippopotamusĀ ](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4272138/Birds-feast-ticks-hippopotamus.html)** > > The hippo was pictured walking around with the oxpeckers on his back at the South Luangwa National Park in Zambia. Australian wildlife photographer Marc Mol, 58, captured the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Fir\_na\_tine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Fir\_na\_tine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fir_na_tine)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maine-ticks-making-moose-anemic/952208/11 "2021-10-10T18:27:34Z")
Here in southern Maine ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maine-ticks-making-moose-anemic/952208/12 "2021-10-10T18:32:46Z")
> [@markn\_1](#): > > > [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > > > We need to build some sort of pussum-moose alliance. > > There is more precedence for a squirrel-moose alliance. But these relationships ā€“ while often hailing from halcyon beginnings ā€“ have a tendency to become rocky over time. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maine-ticks-making-moose-anemic/952208/13 "2021-10-10T18:44:46Z")
> [@Fir\_na\_tine](#): > > Here in southern Maine Ah, ok. Ground zero then. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maine-ticks-making-moose-anemic/952208/14 "2021-10-15T01:28:04Z")
Gah!! 3 dangerous smalls trying to attack me. These bug, spider and tick threads gotta stop. My PTSD is burning a hole in my soul.