# Mainstream music makes the baby Jesus cry **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 28, 2010, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mainstream-music-makes-the-baby-jesus-cry/555393 "2010-09-28T20:45:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pikey\_pete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pikey\_pete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pikey_pete)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mainstream-music-makes-the-baby-jesus-cry/555393/1 "2010-09-28T20:45:39Z")
I know you are all waiting with bated breath for my rant-o-the-day. I need to pit something daily right now. Its my self prescribed mental therapy which helps me to handle the radiation therapy for my brain tumor. Once a week I get on the commuter rail and travel to Dallas, Texas to get my brain stem nuked. The 45 minute ride gives me time to think about anything except the hell I’m about to go through. What has really caught my ire today is mainstream music. Mainstream music has become such a commodity that we no longer have bands that strive for anything other than marketability. NEWS FLASH: marketability means selling to the lowest common denominator. Kiss uniqueness, creativity and long term listenability goodbye. I admit, I am spoiled. You see, I live in Fort Worth, Texas. If you aren’t into animal husbandry and country music that sounds like '80s pop with a Texas drawl, then all there really is to do is local music. A musical ecosystem like that tends to kill off mediocrity. When you have bands like Sally Majestic, Hentai Improvising Orchestra, The Me-Thinks, The Burning Hotels, Blow Up The Moon, Trailer Park Princess, Stella Rose, Epic Ruins, Darth Vato, Katsük, Spoonfed Tribe, the Skin and Bones Drum Cult, Ginny Mac,….fuck it, the list can keep going and going without even a ‘hi Opal’; you start to realize what absolute shite is being played on the radio. Music needs to be about music, not about market shares. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mainstream-music-makes-the-baby-jesus-cry/555393/2 "2010-09-28T21:35:23Z")
A music snob on the Internet, how novel. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mainstream-music-makes-the-baby-jesus-cry/555393/3 "2010-09-28T21:42:39Z")
> [@pikey\_pete](#): > > I know you are all waiting with bated breath for my rant-o-the-day. I need to pit something daily right now. Its my self prescribed mental therapy which helps me to handle the radiation therapy for my brain tumor. Once a week I get on the commuter rail and travel to Dallas, Texas to get my brain stem nuked. The 45 minute ride gives me time to think about anything except the hell I’m about to go through. What has really caught my ire today is mainstream music. Mainstream music has become such a commodity that we no longer have bands that strive for anything other than marketability. NEWS FLASH: marketability means selling to the lowest common denominator. Kiss uniqueness, creativity and long term listenability goodbye. I admit, I am spoiled. You see, I live in Fort Worth, Texas. If you aren’t into animal husbandry and country music that sounds like '80s pop with a Texas drawl, then all there really is to do is local music. A musical ecosystem like that tends to kill off mediocrity. When you have bands like Sally Majestic, Hentai Improvising Orchestra, The Me-Thinks, The Burning Hotels, Blow Up The Moon, Trailer Park Princess, Stella Rose, Epic Ruins, Darth Vato, Katsük, Spoonfed Tribe, the Skin and Bones Drum Cult, Ginny Mac,….fuck it, the list can keep going and going without even a ‘hi Opal’; you start to realize what absolute shite is being played on the radio. Music needs to be about music, not about market shares. I cant think of any possible way in which you are not a fucknugget, and fucknuggets make the baby Jesus cry. I mean, you actually typed all that out? You stopped wanking, you pushed one button at a time for about four hours, and you actually hit submit on a whine about radios playing crap music? Yeah, a fucknugget. Baby Jesus. Crying. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mainstream-music-makes-the-baby-jesus-cry/555393/4 "2010-09-28T21:46:25Z")
There was a time when music was marketed to listeners rather than advertisers and programmers. This scheme was found to be inefficient and has been abolished. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mainstream-music-makes-the-baby-jesus-cry/555393/5 "2010-09-28T21:47:18Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > A music snob on the Internet, how novel. You just don’t get it, man. ---
**Author:** ![pikey\_pete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pikey\_pete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pikey_pete)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mainstream-music-makes-the-baby-jesus-cry/555393/6 "2010-09-28T21:47:19Z")
[/QUOTE] I cant think of any possible way in which you are not a fucknugget, and fucknuggets make the baby Jesus cry. I mean, you actually typed all that out? You stopped wanking, you pushed one button at a time for about four hours, and you actually hit submit on a whine about radios playing crap music? Yeah, a fucknugget. Baby Jesus. Crying. [/QUOTE] yeah, and you spent 4 hours trying to come up with such an eloquent and articulate reply. If you don’t want to actually address the OP, but instead attack the poster maybe you should get a life. Oh, and learn some new words. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mainstream-music-makes-the-baby-jesus-cry/555393/7 "2010-09-28T21:55:29Z")
I don’t completely agree; there’s some really catchy, fun, creative stuff coming from mainstream media still; radio is a complete wasteland, though. I get my new music from David Letterman, Craig Ferguson, and recommendations from people here. Every time I turn on the radio (which is rarely), all I hear is autotuned dreck. For some reason, a lot of people of my generation (I’m in my forties) think that that’s all the new music there is now. Fortunately, they are wrong. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mainstream-music-makes-the-baby-jesus-cry/555393/8 "2010-09-28T21:55:31Z")
> [@pikey\_pete](#): > > yeah, and you spent 4 hours trying to come up with such an eloquent and articulate reply. I like the idea that I started composing my reply a couple of hours before you even started the thread. Damn I must be good…🆒 Oh, and address the OP? Just what is the proper response to “_whiney whiney bitchy bitch_”? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mainstream-music-makes-the-baby-jesus-cry/555393/9 "2010-09-28T22:03:53Z")
What is this “radio” of which you speak? Is it available through iTunes? ---
**Author:** ![Blut\_Aus\_Nord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Blut\_Aus\_Nord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blut_Aus_Nord)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mainstream-music-makes-the-baby-jesus-cry/555393/10 "2010-09-28T22:03:56Z")
> [@pikey\_pete](#): > > When you have bands like Sally Majestic, Hentai Improvising Orchestra, The Me-Thinks, The Burning Hotels, Blow Up The Moon, Trailer Park Princess, Stella Rose, Epic Ruins, Darth Vato, Katsük, Spoonfed Tribe, the Skin and Bones Drum Cult, Ginny Mac,…. LOL ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mainstream-music-makes-the-baby-jesus-cry/555393/11 "2010-09-28T22:06:44Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > What is this “radio” of which you speak? Is it available through iTunes? The less said of that the better. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mainstream-music-makes-the-baby-jesus-cry/555393/12 "2010-09-28T22:22:11Z")
A few things: 1. Why is this in the Pit? 2. “Rant of the Day”? Are you implying you’re going to be making a pit thread a day? I see you made one a day or two ago and another today, but one a day or every other day will get old fast. 3. I agree with **BucketyBuck** 4. I think the OP should get a blog. 5. I think the OP will probably not last very long here. 6. As for something actually on topic: I don’t agree. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mainstream-music-makes-the-baby-jesus-cry/555393/13 "2010-09-28T22:30:20Z")
To be entirely fair, I imagine that mainstream radio music _would_ have made the baby Jesus cry - at the least indirectly, as a result of his parents jumping up in panic from the singing and unfamiliar instrumental noise coming from a box so small that only demons - _ **demons** _ - could fit in it to sing. ---
**Author:** ![pikey\_pete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pikey\_pete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pikey_pete)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mainstream-music-makes-the-baby-jesus-cry/555393/14 "2010-09-28T22:36:03Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > A few things: > > 1. Why is this in the Pit? > > 2. “Rant of the Day”? Are you implying you’re going to be making a pit thread a day? I see you made one a day or two ago and another today, but one a day or every other day will get old fast. > > 3. I agree with **BucketyBuck** > > 4. I think the OP should get a blog. > > 5. I think the OP will probably not last very long here. > > 6. As for something actually on topic: I don’t agree. a valid and well thought out reply. I respect your views. ---
**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mainstream-music-makes-the-baby-jesus-cry/555393/15 "2010-09-28T23:05:03Z")
Mainstream - The music of Satan. I’m going to put “Love Grows Where My Rosemary Goes” on YouTube and listen to it over and over. I’m going to Hell anyway, I might as well get ready for the soundtrack. ---
**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mainstream-music-makes-the-baby-jesus-cry/555393/16 "2010-09-28T23:12:08Z")
Oh good night nurse. Hell is going to be fab. Loves Grows rule. And I’m only on my third listen. Today. To the OP - Buck up, I know so many people who talk to me about music they have found all over the world that on that thing we call the Internet, that God forbid, is not mainstream! All types. Stuff they want me to listen to. Yikes. Some of it good. Go figure. Get over yourself. The world of recorded music has changed. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mainstream-music-makes-the-baby-jesus-cry/555393/17 "2010-09-28T23:14:58Z")
> [@pikey\_pete](#): > > I know you are all waiting with bated breath for my rant-o-the-day. No, we aren’t. You’ve been here 4 days and have 37 posts. This is the first I’ve noticed, and it sucks. > [@](#): > > I need to pit something daily right now. Don’t care. > [@](#): > > Its my self prescribed mental therapy which helps me to handle the radiation therapy for my brain tumor. Once a week I get on the commuter rail and travel to Dallas, Texas to get my brain stem nuked. The 45 minute ride gives me time to think about anything except the hell I’m about to go through. Highly unlikely. More likely, you’re the latest in a long line of assholes posting stupid shit on the internet. > [@](#): > > What has really caught my ire today is mainstream music. Mainstream music has become such a commodity that we no longer have bands that strive for anything other than marketability. NEWS FLASH: marketability means selling to the lowest common denominator. Kiss uniqueness, creativity and long term listenability goodbye. I admit, I am spoiled. You see, I live in Fort Worth, Texas. If you aren’t into animal husbandry and country music that sounds like '80s pop with a Texas drawl, then all there really is to do is local music. A musical ecosystem like that tends to kill off mediocrity. When you have bands like Sally Majestic, Hentai Improvising Orchestra, The Me-Thinks, The Burning Hotels, Blow Up The Moon, Trailer Park Princess, Stella Rose, Epic Ruins, Darth Vato, Katsük, Spoonfed Tribe, the Skin and Bones Drum Cult, Ginny Mac,….fuck it, the list can keep going and going without even a ‘hi Opal’; you start to realize what absolute shite is being played on the radio. Music needs to be about music, not about market shares. Don’t care. Your rant is a waste of bandwidth. Go away. ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mainstream-music-makes-the-baby-jesus-cry/555393/18 "2010-09-29T00:08:02Z")
What’s mainstream music these days, anyway? I haven’t listened to a broadcast radio station in a few years. I hear new music from the “radio” stations on Napster and from automixes on my favorite bands. Most people I know do something similar, plus the local scene. And, just so you know, your local scene is not the same as mine, and trying to compare the two is pointless. If you weren’t looking to get flamed, stay out of the Pit. No one’s going to go easy on you. ---
**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mainstream-music-makes-the-baby-jesus-cry/555393/19 "2010-09-29T00:12:54Z")
> [@pikey\_pete](#): > > I know you are all waiting with bated breath for my rant-o-the-day. I need to pit something daily right now. Its my self prescribed mental therapy which helps me to handle the radiation therapy for my brain tumor. Once a week I get on the commuter rail and travel to Dallas, Texas to get my brain stem nuked. The 45 minute ride gives me time to think about anything except the hell I’m about to go through. What has really caught my ire today is mainstream music. Mainstream music has become such a commodity that we no longer have bands that strive for anything other than marketability. NEWS FLASH: marketability means selling to the lowest common denominator. Kiss uniqueness, creativity and long term listenability goodbye. I admit, I am spoiled. You see, I live in Fort Worth, Texas. If you aren’t into animal husbandry and country music that sounds like '80s pop with a Texas drawl, then all there really is to do is local music. A musical ecosystem like that tends to kill off mediocrity. When you have bands like Sally Majestic, Hentai Improvising Orchestra, The Me-Thinks, The Burning Hotels, Blow Up The Moon, Trailer Park Princess, Stella Rose, Epic Ruins, Darth Vato, Katsük, Spoonfed Tribe, the Skin and Bones Drum Cult, Ginny Mac,….fuck it, the list can keep going and going without even a ‘hi Opal’; you start to realize what absolute shite is being played on the radio. Music needs to be about music, not about market shares. If you’re a Texan, I’m suprised you didn’t mention Roky Erickson’s album he released this year with Okkerville River. Some critics have called his “Pet Sounds” I so wished that guy had come to San Francisco in the 60s. But it’s one of those age old questions. Would he be the same artist today if he did come to SF instead of spending a few years in a mental ward in TX. If you don’t know who he is, check him out. ---
**Author:** ![Doxy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@Doxy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doxy)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mainstream-music-makes-the-baby-jesus-cry/555393/20 "2010-09-29T00:22:31Z")
Pete, you sound a lot like my best friend. She has nothing but disdain for mainstream music. She listens to really obscure bands (like Hurt) that nobody has ever heard of and thinks that makes her more “sophisticated” or “edgy” or “something” than the rest of us. That’s ok. I love her anyway! LOL I freely admit my love for Nickelback and Metallica and ACDC and Journey… just to mention a few. I do wish that I could get her to sit still long enough to actually listen to some Harry Chapin and Paul Simon and Neil Diamond… Good stuff. Good stuff. Sorry to hear about your tumor and I hope your radiation therapy goes well. (And now all I can hear in my head is Arnold Schwarzenegger in Kindergarten Cop saying, “It’s not a tumah! It’s not a tumah at all!”) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mainstream-music-makes-the-baby-jesus-cry/555393.md?page=2)