# Major battles/events of WWII NOT given cinematic/TV treatment?

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**Created:** [April 22, 2014, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-battles-events-of-wwii-not-given-cinematic-tv-treatment/686701 "2014-04-22T18:26:35Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-battles-events-of-wwii-not-given-cinematic-tv-treatment/686701/61 "2014-04-24T01:50:04Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> I honestly think he should have received an Oscar for his performance as Hitler, but sadly it doesn’t seem to work like that.
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> The sadder thing is when you say “You should see Downfall”, so many people say “Isn’t that the film with Hitler ranting about his Xbox Live account being banned?” :smack:

Don’t be too hard on the Downfall rant titlers. The [“Grammer Nazi”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8fbrUjjivw) one convinced me that I really had to see this film. Sorry, I can’t get all worked up about insane, evil, murderous dickheads being made into objects of fun.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-battles-events-of-wwii-not-given-cinematic-tv-treatment/686701/62 "2014-04-24T02:38:11Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I don’t think there’s ever been a movie about the [Battle of Manila](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Manila_(1945)). Which is somewhat surprising because it was a major battle with plenty of dramatic events and it involved American forces.

An update. While there apparently has never been an American movie made about this battle, there was a 1968 Filipino movie - _[Manila, Open City](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow6-CWun74E&list=PL54B3B078B4FAFAB0)_.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-battles-events-of-wwii-not-given-cinematic-tv-treatment/686701/63 "2014-04-24T03:06:20Z")

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Has there been a Dieppe Raid film? I don’t recall having ever seen or heard of one.

You’d think a Canadian studio would make one, considering the horrific Canadian casualties.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-battles-events-of-wwii-not-given-cinematic-tv-treatment/686701/64 "2014-04-24T04:15:47Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> Has there been a Dieppe Raid film? I don’t recall having ever seen or heard of one.
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> You’d think a Canadian studio would make one, considering the horrific Canadian casualties.

Dieppe

> **[Dieppe (TV Movie 1993) ⭐ 6.6 | History, War](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106720/)**
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> Dieppe: Directed by John N. Smith. With Gary Reineke, Victor Garber, Robert Joy, Peter Donat. A dramatization of the failed World War II raid which became the most serious defeat of Canadian forces in the war.

I’ve often heard how the Falaise Pocket was the decisive battle that kicked the Germans out of Normandy but I haven’t seen much about it movie-wise.

Also, Caen and Peleliu

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-battles-events-of-wwii-not-given-cinematic-tv-treatment/686701/65 "2014-04-24T08:05:18Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> Don’t be too hard on the Downfall rant titlers. The [“Grammer Nazi”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8fbrUjjivw) one convinced me that I really had to see this film. Sorry, I can’t get all worked up about insane, evil, murderous dickheads being made into objects of fun.

Personally, I think some of them are hilarious and well done, but it bothers me as a historian that they’ve overshadowed the film - which is on a very serious subject.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-battles-events-of-wwii-not-given-cinematic-tv-treatment/686701/66 "2014-04-24T15:40:21Z")

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I don’t recall ever hearing about a movie covering the Harlem Hellfighters.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-battles-events-of-wwii-not-given-cinematic-tv-treatment/686701/67 "2014-04-24T16:22:06Z")

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> [@mack](#):
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> Dieppe
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> [Dieppe (TV Movie 1993) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106720/)
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> I’ve often heard how the Falaise Pocket was the decisive battle that kicked the Germans out of Normandy but I haven’t seen much about it movie-wise.
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> Also, Caen and Peleliu

Huh… didn’t know about that movie!

Typically, the way that the Western Front gets simplified for mass-consumption (Hollywood, high school history teachers\*) is as follows:

N. Africa- there was fighting, Rommel gets booted out by Montgomery & Patton.  
Italy- we invade Sicily, then Italy, and more or less get bogged down in fierce fighting for the rest of the war. Monte Cassino is usually mentioned in passing.

D-Day… then Market Garden (only the failure part), Battle of the Bulge, and then the capture of the Rhine bridge at Remagen, and then the war’s over. Berchtesgarden and the National Redoubt usually get mentioned in passing.

Battles like Caen and Falaise usually get rolled into the D-Day coverage- Caen as being something like the anvil, and the US breakout to the west and the subsequent encirclement of the Falaise pocket as the hammer that let the Allies break out of the beachhead and quickly advance toward Paris.

An entire episode of “The Pacific” centered on Peleliu, as did several old documentaries, but I don’t recall any other cinematic treatments.

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