# Major bugs in SDMB re-skin fixed. What do you think? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [September 6, 2017, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663 "2017-09-06T18:32:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/261 "2017-09-11T14:40:44Z")
On a multi-page thread, the page you’re currently on shows up, but the links to the other pages are the exact same color as the background. There are also a number of buttons and text fields which are very close to the background color, making them hard to see. ---
**Author:** ![Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/section_maker_jupe/32/1424_2.png) [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Section_Maker_Jupe)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/262 "2017-09-11T14:45:44Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > The change to the page number navigation is terrible. That alone outweighs any fixes that might have been made in the latest iteration, IMHO. yeah, I agree. (Gray bars are better than blue so thank you for that.) I’m not totally stuck on past version, but that forum style has alway been so easy to use ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/263 "2017-09-11T14:52:02Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > On my PC (get off my lawn) the heavy blue bars are gone, replaced by a gray bar. The font size no longer resembles Safe Mode. These were probably my biggest annoyances. > > Baby steps. The font size may or may not have been slightly reduced (hard to tell), but it still looks like Safe Mode to me (or a child’s early reader). Plus, the original format had the quoted font the same size as the rest of the post (and not in italics). Quotes are still one major font size smaller. As well, it’s still jarring that the so-called “preview” shows the post as it would have looked in the old format, except for the italicized quote, but once posted, the main body of the post displays with enormous fonts. On my monitor, the “normal” font size – that is, the size under the old format, and the smaller size now within quotes and within lists, looks like the size displayed in Word for 12-point Times New Roman (I realize it’s a different sans-serif font, but just talking about size). This to me is a normal reading font size. The present font size in the body of the text resembles how Word displays Times New Roman 14-point – i.e., everything anyone posts looks like a screaming headline! It makes the whole site look cheap and amateurish. The old format was so much nicer in that respect (and in every other!) – the preview actually showed you what the post was going to look like, quotes were the same size as the rest of the post, and the whole thing didn’t look like a screaming headline! ETA-- and the white-on-white page numbers are a usability nightmare! On a positive note, the gray bars are an improvement over the dark blue. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/264 "2017-09-11T15:30:55Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Quoted ones aren’t. ☹ Yeah, I just got hit with this one. I’d consider this a major problem that needs to be fixed, at least before the next new episode of _Game of Thrones_. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/265 "2017-09-11T15:46:02Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > It’s still there. It’s that trendy “white on white” all the cool kids are doing. As a workaround, you can start selecting text where it says “Page 6 of 6,” then drag right, and the page numbers will show for you to click on. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/266 "2017-09-11T15:50:27Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > It’s still there. It’s that trendy “white on white” all the cool kids are doing. > > Or maybe a hipster web designer being ironic. Is irony still hip. As I said in one of the threads, figuring out how to work things in this new format makes me feel like Sawyer in _Lost_ when he was locked in the Polar Bear Cage and had to figure out how to get a fish biscuit. I think TPTB are concerned that brain functioning in this older demographic (i.e., us) is failing and needs exercise to keep it sharp. We should thank them, if we can remember how one does such a thing. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/267 "2017-09-11T17:31:50Z")
I suppose I am glad that it’s not just me. I was hoping that at least the lime green highlight was gone in exchange for all of the white on white, but no. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/268 "2017-09-11T17:51:27Z")
Page numbers are visible for me. Formatting and smilies in the Reply screen are not. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/269 "2017-09-11T18:06:29Z")
I never got the lime-green highlight on any device, but then, this site now apparently has different variations for different people, all of them worse than what we had before. Thanks to **CurtC** for the white-on-white workaround. But I have to ask: do I sound like a grouch when I ask how it’s an “improvement” to have a new interface that almost everybody hates and that requires freaking workarounds just to be able to use, and is even _ **less** _ usable on some mobile devices than the original one? (For instance because the silly “go-to-top” arrow becomes a larger drop-down box on my tablet – a feature that obscures part of the page while providing no useful functionality.) Maybe we should do a poll to see how many want a return to the old format, at least for now. I suspect the majority do, including many mobile users. Or best of all, if possible, the old format as a user-selectable option. ---
**Author:** ![jerez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c68b51/32.png) [@jerez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jerez)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/270 "2017-09-11T18:07:02Z")
nm ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/271 "2017-09-11T18:33:18Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Or best of all, if possible, the old format as a user-selectable option. It’s more than possible, it’s a built-in vB function. It takes less than 10 mouseclicks to activate it. I’m surprised that with all the fiddling around they were doing to get rid of some of the more obnoxious color options (and breaking more stuff in the process) they didn’t just turn it on. But perhaps we’ll find out at some point what the resistance is to letting their customers choose the format which is easiest to read for them. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/272 "2017-09-11T19:26:49Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Seeing as Edge is actively trying for Chrome compatibility, this might have been the case even before the change. > > It works in Firefox, and apparently Internet Explorer. Maybe just open up one of those browsers just for the SDMB? I only recently discovered that I was using Edge, that Edge is not IE, and how to get to IE. Hey, the icon is the same “e”, just with a minor color variation. > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > One other thing I haven’t seen mentioned: having a reply button at the top of the thread is going to encourage people to post to the thread before reading what other people have already said. This seems like a bad idea, and also uses up valuable real-estate. I’d get rid of it. There has always been a reply button at the top of the threads - that is a standard vB feature, not something generated by this skin. It _is_ rather more prominent. > [@DSeid](#): > > Well I just found out that a change to my sig becomes retroactive! Changed it to “Please stop autosig” after I had not unclicked it before posting and the the last thread retroactively put that as my sig! That was fun! That is how sigs have always worked. Your sig in a sig file is a callout to the server every time it is used, not a static bit of text added to the post. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/273 "2017-09-11T21:06:25Z")
Microsoft doesn’t want people using their older browser unless they have to for compatibility reasons. I see that site are still enabled by default (I’m on mobile right now.) ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/274 "2017-09-11T21:13:03Z")
As you can probably tell since it auto corrected sigs to site. ---
**Author:** ![Ed\_Zotti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/fbc32d/32.png) [@Ed\_Zotti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ed_Zotti)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/275 "2017-09-11T21:17:47Z")
Having my contractor fix things, a few items at a time: 1. Blue bar between posts changed to gray. Seems like most people are happy with this. 2. Will have color of page navigation numbers changed to distinguish from background. Sorry about that. 3. “Show signature” in UserCP will be changed to OFF by default. More later. My apologies for the inconvenience. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/276 "2017-09-11T21:25:19Z")
> [@Ed\_Zotti](#): > > Having my contractor fix things, a few items at a time: > > 1. Blue bar between posts changed to gray. Seems like most people are happy with this. > > 2. Will have color of page navigation numbers changed to distinguish from background. Sorry about that. > > 3. “Show signature” in UserCP will be changed to OFF by default. > > More later. My apologies for the inconvenience. There is a problem with quoted spoilers not remaining hidden. Will that be fixed, too? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/277 "2017-09-11T21:27:58Z")
Thanks, **Ed**! If we have to have a bar between posts, I agree that the grey is better than the dark blue. I know that I look for the blue bar as an indicator of “last post on the page” and seeing it between posts kept jarring that perception. At least now the blue is back to bookending the top and bottom of the page. Thanks also for having the Signature default set back to OFF (although I see now that it is still on). ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/278 "2017-09-11T21:42:51Z")
I liked the blue better ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/279 "2017-09-11T21:48:49Z")
Thanks, Ed, for letting us know how things are going. I’m not sure if the skin creator knows he horked up some of the “features”, because they aren’t active on his board. I noted that spoiler tags didn’t work at all over there, not just broken in quotes, and he’s not using multi-quote. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/280 "2017-09-11T21:54:14Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > I’m seeing them in Chrome on my laptop, but when I posted earlier (from a different machine - a desktop PC, not a phone), I was not seeing any post dates - I guess maybe I was getting served up the mobile template for some reason. I figured it out - I had some elements of the page blocked using Adblock, for some reason, on the computer I observed this on - and one of those elements is the bit where the post date now resides. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663.md?page=15)