# Major bugs in SDMB re-skin fixed. What do you think?

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**Created:** [September 6, 2017, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663 "2017-09-06T18:32:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/461 "2017-09-14T14:38:28Z")

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Sounds good, thanks

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/462 "2017-09-14T14:46:22Z")

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> [@Ed\_Zotti](#):
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> The main job, which is way more complicated and not complete, is porting the SD home page and column archive to a WordPress platform.

Ah, the platform that has given rise to the acronym ‘[FYWP](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FYWP).’ 😃

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/463 "2017-09-14T14:48:17Z")

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> [@Ed\_Zotti](#):
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> I’m happy to report I’ve heard back from the theme developer and he confirms it’s possible to configure the SDMB to enable users to toggle between themes. Leaving nothing to chance, I’ve configured our beta site as instructed and invite users to test whether all works as advertised. Go to:
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> [http://boardstest.straightdope.com/sdmb/](http://boardstest.straightdope.com/sdmb/)
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> … and log in using the following:
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> UserID: admin  
> Password: adm20!7 (note exclamation point)
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> Once you’re in, you’ll have to log in again using your regular username and password. Then navigate to UserCP. In the bottom nav bar at left there’s a dropdown menu showing the current theme; you can then toggle to whatever theme you like.
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> Please give this a try and make sure all operates as expected and that all problems previously reported have resolved. Then report your results here. If there’s general confirmation that this works I’ll implement it on the production board, although cautious soul that I am I’ll wait 24 hours to see if any problems surface. Please understand that this doesn’t fix anything that was broken in the OLD theme; it just reverts to what we had before.

Not working for me; I can’t log in. I’m on a Mac, if that makes any difference.

I can also report that using anything other than “Quick Reply” to reply to a thread gets you a throroughly screwed up box. Spacing is wide, and all of the options are spread out horizontally and vertically.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/464 "2017-09-14T15:04:00Z")

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> [@Ed\_Zotti](#):
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> Right. Assuming no problems arise - I’m not expecting anything - I’ll switch on theme toggling for the production site tonight and post instructions in an ATMB sticky. The new theme will remain the site default so Google gives us credit for being mobile-friendly, but you can switch to whatever theme you want and make this your personal default.
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> Meanwhile, we’ll continue to tweak the new theme using the beta site. This won’t be of concern to most people but from time to time I’ll be encouraging those who are into this kind of thing to visit the beta site and check out the latest round of changes. IMO the new theme works better on phones for many users and I’d like to make it as good as we can. Thanks.

I’m happy to report the reply window in FireFox with WYSIWYG on is now nice and wide. (Windows 7 & 10)

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**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/465 "2017-09-14T16:28:19Z")

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> [@Ed\_Zotti](#):
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> Please give this a try and make sure all operates as expected and that all problems previously reported have resolved. Then report your results here. If there’s general confirmation that this works I’ll implement it on the production board, although cautious soul that I am I’ll wait 24 hours to see if any problems surface. Please understand that this doesn’t fix anything that was broken in the OLD theme; it just reverts to what we had before.

Thank you Ed. The old skin is working fine on the test boards. I doubt there will be a problem.

This is like the Classic Coke ploy - I never knew how much I’d miss it until it was gone.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/466 "2017-09-14T17:16:17Z")

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Likewise, I have not seen any problems using the old theme on the test site. Also tried logging out and back in again and as Ed said, once you toggle the theme in the “Edit Options” window instead of the bar at the bottom left, it becomes your default. Logged out, you see the new theme, log back in, and it’s the old one again, or whatever you’ve chosen. I love it!

[Over here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20476228&postcount=441), **BigT** mentioned an issue if anyone happens to select the vB3 “green” theme. I didn’t try this, but I presume this isn’t going to be ported over to the production site anyway, so presumably not an issue. Toggling back and forth between the new blue theme and the original one works fine.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/467 "2017-09-14T17:21:55Z")

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For quotes, please put a dark box outline around the quote box.

For quote attributions, please darken the colour of the icon.

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**Author:** ![Pasta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@Pasta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pasta)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/468 "2017-09-14T20:05:17Z")

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**Can the old skin be the default in a user-selectable-skin world?**

Neither my phone nor my tablet will keep me logged into the board between viewing sessions, so my inability to view the board on my phone with the new skin won’t be helped unless I type my username and hard-to-type-on-a-phone-because-of-all-the-symbols-and-stuff password every time I want to glance at the latest posts during the day.

It seems like most people were happy with the old skin, so I propose that the (few?) users that find the new skin an improvement in their viewing experience be offered the option to select the new skin – not the other way around.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/469 "2017-09-14T20:16:22Z")

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For those who miss the “last post” column, I noticed on my phone the red arrow at the front of the thread title takes me to the most recent post I haven’t read. YMMV.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/470 "2017-09-14T20:22:51Z")

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> [@Folly](#):
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> It’s too bad that the old theme means that guest location/post number is hidden though.

Definitely! As I said before, that is the one feature of the new skin that I really like. I hope there is some way that can be incorporated into the old skin but I didn’t want to ask Santa Zotti for it because he just gave us this wonderful present (the old board back).

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/471 "2017-09-14T20:27:05Z")

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> [@Pasta](#):
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> **Can the old skin be the default in a user-selectable-skin world?**

The new one will have to be the default for Google to recognize the site as mobile-friendly or whatever

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**Author:** ![Pasta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@Pasta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pasta)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/472 "2017-09-14T20:59:24Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> The new one will have to be the default for Google to recognize the site as mobile-friendly or whatever

I don’t understand why Google has anything to do with anything. Is that discussed up-thread? (Apologies if it is. I haven’t read the whole thread, partly because I can’t read it well on mobile.)

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/473 "2017-09-14T21:06:52Z")

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Yes, it’s apparently important to TBTB to improve Google ranking for “mobile friendly”.

Since the old theme looks perfectly fine on my tablet, and I almost never access the Internet on my smartphone and spend a lot of time sneering at people who do, I am not qualified to make further comments. And get off my lawn! 😃

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/474 "2017-09-14T21:20:13Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Multi quote still wasn’t working on desktop yesterday.

On Firefox, all three quoting options for a post do the same thing - bring up a reply box with the message quoted.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/475 "2017-09-14T22:39:28Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> On Firefox, all three quoting options for a post do the same thing - bring up a reply box with the message quoted.

Are you clicking on the icon or the text? You have to click on the icon to get a fish biscuit.

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**Author:** ![Ed\_Zotti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/fbc32d/32.png) [@Ed\_Zotti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ed_Zotti)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/476 "2017-09-15T00:29:00Z")

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Since no problems have been reported, I’ll now switch on theme toggling for this board.

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**Author:** ![Ed\_Zotti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/fbc32d/32.png) [@Ed\_Zotti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ed_Zotti)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/477 "2017-09-15T00:34:00Z")

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Done. Users may now switch to whatever theme they prefer. I’ll post instructions in a separate stickied thread in ATMB.

ETA: View promised instructions at: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=836331](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=836331)

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/478 "2017-09-15T00:36:41Z")

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> [@Ed\_Zotti](#):
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> Since no problems have been reported, I’ll now switch on theme toggling for this board.

Thanks Ed. v3.7.3 solves the text box problem and the quote attribution problem for me.

> [@Muffin](#):
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> For quotes, please put a dark box outline around the quote box.
> 
> For quote attributions, please darken the colour of the icon.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/479 "2017-09-15T00:40:18Z")

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> [@Ed\_Zotti](#):
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> Done. Users may now switch to whatever theme they prefer. I’ll post instructions in a separate stickied thread in ATMB.

Thank you!

For myself, the old style works wonderfully on my iPhone 7 in landscape mode.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/480 "2017-09-15T00:50:10Z")

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> [@Ed\_Zotti](#):
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> Since no problems have been reported, I’ll now switch on theme toggling for this board.

> [@Ed\_Zotti](#):
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> Done. Users may now switch to whatever theme they prefer. I’ll post instructions in a separate stickied thread in ATMB.

I just want to say that of all the boards I’ve participated in, this is the best example of response to user feedback that I’ve seen. A sincere thank you, Ed, for taking the time and trouble to do this for all us whiners! I really do think the old style looks so much better, and with some agreeing and others disagreeing, this is the perfect solution. Thank you!

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